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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by almagik<br />... could be interesting for someone  ... what about this gator ? "Could" ...  - now you're kidding, my friend Simply wonderful - mille grazie for those masterpieces, Al [:p][:p][:p] !!! (again, you are a true maestro - shots of excellence even with the object hidden behind glass ... [:0]) BTW - what scale is she Looking so real you almost wanna step inside ... Still more - is there a drivetrain, or is she a static model Also - do you by chance have any shots on the brown HO-Croco and the green HO-E50 Sorry, tons of questions ... |
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Wow,very impressive large model,What scale is it.
Thanks for sharing the nice picture,Alberto. |
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Does anyone have 37569 - I believe it is a croc in camo?
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rcs2007
<br />37569 - I believe it is a croc in camo? Hi Bobby, well, camo - another charming word for rust ... (#37569 is the Croco's weathered edition)  |
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John,
AS I have qualified the rules of membership I apply to be a member of the Gator/Croc club.
Blue 37224 arrived today |
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and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Yes, Sir !!! ... And congratulations, Neville - have fun [:p] |
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Thanks John, It runs as Smooth as a Babies B*M. [^] Had it running for about 30 mins each way. Smooth and Silent. [:p] |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
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The 39562 body is the same as the 2002 model 39561, only the number, the motor c-sinus compact and the whistle are different. Edited by user 26 September 2010 16:51:18(UTC)
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Many thanks, Al! BTW, what's your opinion re that mini C-Sinus motor in the heavy Croco ... Will you get one ... And what make is the big scale Gator |
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Thanks a lot for your images Alberto. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br />Many thanks, Al! BTW, what's your opinion re that mini C-Sinus motor in the heavy Croco ... Will you get one ... And what make is the big scale Gator In my opinion the best swiss croco model are 39560 and 39561, they run as swiss clock by the great C-sinus. I own both these loco plus the 3756 and 37569 weathered and 26730 convoy (3756 again, but lightly weathered) plus brown 3352 green 3300 and plastic 3056 and last the 3015 and 36159 replica. I'm happy and won't buy the new 37562. Sorry, I don't know who made the big scale gator. |
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Nice pictures,Many thanks Alberto. |
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Thanks for the interesting photos, Alberto |
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Grazie, Al - that's all I needed to know from one of our greatest collectors and gurus ...
Thus I'll test her the hard way - the especially bad Hans-Martin-Sauer Mountain Ramp [}:)][}:)][}:)]
If she can handle that one she'll be mine ...
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Hey great pictures and info - thanks man!!! |
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Thank you very much for the nice pictures Alberto.
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Yesterday, there was a toy market in town. And I was lucky and got this one home with me:  The 3352. So now I finally got a "classic" croc, as well as the french one I wrote about earlier. Edited by user 28 June 2015 14:49:11(UTC)
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WOW - coolness, Mikael !!! What a beauty - congratulations [:p][:p][:p] And thanks for the great picture  |
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Congratulations Mikael.
It looks like it's still in a very good condition.
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Yes, she is in very good condition. Only the pickup-shoe reveals that she has been used (and quite a bit too by the looks of it). The rest of her is in perfect condition. Now for the big question: Should I leave her as she is (analog), which then will be for display only. Or should I rebuild her for digital operation, and put her on active duty on my layout? (I've already made up my mind, but just want to hear your opinion).
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To the front line on active duty.
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Now for the big question: Should I leave her as she is (analog), which then will be for display only.
Or should I rebuild her for digital operation, and put her on active duty on my layout? I'd keep her that way.It will remind you every day of the heyday of Märklins analog era! Kind regards Guus |
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I'm with Guus - preserve her [:p] (like I did with my green one, never to regret) And if you want additional fun you can always add a small analog track to your layout (how about a steep mountain ramp?) - it's just nice, and so rewarding ...  |
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John,i need your help if it is possible.I have a similar gator from a Swiss set(28730) and i lost the window just above the road number. I had a look at Marklin's service for the locos 39560-39561 which are similar to my gator and i saw i have to buy all the shell(218643- 220613 spare part).Have i another way to find this window? [:(] Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br />I'm with Guus - preserve her [:p] (like I did with my green one, never to regret) And if you want additional fun you can always add a small analog track to your layout (how about a steep mountain ramp?) - it's just nice, and so rewarding ...
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No problem, Panayotis. In a few hours from now I'll be back home and dig thru my manuals |
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CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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The aslolutelly immediate reply.Thank you. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br />No problem, Panayotis. In a few hours from now I'll be back home and dig thru my manuals
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Panayotis:
Did you look inside the lok? I got a great deal on a 3039 E110 that looked like it had never touched a track because it was missing windows (the Gepruft tag was still attached!). When I opened it up, they were inside. If not, what about fitting a window leftover from a building kit? (By the way, I agree with Guus and John...some loks should never be modified. That E110 is one of my "never to be converted" loks along with my 3021.1 in pristine condition I scored for a song on ebay and my 3125 Roter Pfeil that looks like it just rolled out of the factory) |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by MikaelYesterday, there was a toy market in town. And I was lucky and got this one home with me:  The 3352. So now I finally got a "classic" croc, as well as the french one I wrote about earlier. Congratulations, Mikael Very nice loco! |
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Thank you everyone.
A part of me says that I should keep her as she is now. But it won't be practical to have an analog section on my layout, no matter how much I like that idea [:(]
But as much as I enjoy looking at a model in a vitrine, I enjoy running the trains at least twice as much (and even much more). So this one will have to run again. On my way home from work, I got all the required motorparts as well as a Loksound decoder. So guess what... She is going fully digital in a few days.
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Congratulations,Mikael. |
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I would also convert, Mikael
When I convert an excpencive or rare (or both) model, I never do any modifications to the chassis or body. I also remove all the old parts as complete as possible, and store them carefully. Then it is possibible to rebuild back to original later on.
When I converted my 3300 croco to 60923, I only unsoldered the red and the brown wire and lifted the motorparts, the direction relay, the electronic unit and bulb sockets out as one "unit".
After installing the newer double bulb sockets and new light guides, I could achieve the correct light change, 3+1.
And, I would install a couple of 7205 close couplers.
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Hi Panayotis, those windows for the Croco got no own part # - but never mind: Asked my dealer who said it should be no major problem for your dealer ordering them from M He successfully did so with my F7 windows last year (if memory serves I waited about 6 weeks - price was $1/window, also no part #). Just specify what window, plus the loco's model # John (busy with oiling another new heavy-metal NoHAB ... [:p]) |
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AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />After installing the newer double bulb sockets and new light guides, I could achieve the correct light change, 3+1. This sounds most interesting. Double bulb sockets??? I've never heard of them before. Is it just new sockets and light guides, and no other modifications? Sounds too good to be true. Do you have any spare part numbers for me?
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I look inside and all over the layout.I have to ask from my dealer to order one from Marklin. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr
<br />Panayotis:
Did you look inside the lok? I got a great deal on a 3039 E110 that looked like it had never touched a track because it was missing windows (the Gepruft tag was still attached!). When I opened it up, they were inside. If not, what about fitting a window leftover from a building kit? (By the way, I agree with Guus and John...some loks should never be modified. That E110 is one of my "never to be converted" loks along with my 3021.1 in pristine condition I scored for a song on ebay and my 3125 Roter Pfeil that looks like it just rolled out of the factory)
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Thank you very much John.I am gonna order one. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br />Hi Panayotis, those windows for the Croco got no own part # - but never mind: Asked my dealer who said it should be no major problem for your dealer ordering them from M He successfully did so with my F7 windows last year (if memory serves I waited about 6 weeks - price was $1/window, also no part #). Just specify what window, plus the loco's model # John (busy with oiling another new heavy-metal NoHAB ... [:p])
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />Look at this topic, Mikael Thanks a lot, but today I discovered that she already has the double bulb sockets installed (and appropriate light guides). I just didn't see that when I had a quick look inside her yesterday. I haven't done the swiss light with diodes. Instead I've just wired the four lights up to the two light outputs, AUX1 and AUX2. Then I can just program the decoder to make the desired light patterns.
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Exceptionally dadicate. 
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Very cool,thanks for sharing the picture. |
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Thanks for the nice photo, Panayotis! |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Mikael
<br />On my way home from work, I got all the required motorparts as well as a Loksound decoder. And now everything is installed. Here she is in her new digital outfit: http://www2.ejberg.dk/external/marklinusers/3352.wmvI still need to experiment a bit with the sound sync, but all in all I am very pleased with the outcome. Edited by user 28 June 2015 14:50:34(UTC)
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Panayotis, Mikael - many thanks for the cool picture/video, Gentlemen [:p] !!! |
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Video is great. Thanks for posting it. This is what Marklin should be doing with the new croc. g Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Mikael<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Mikael
<br />On my way home from work, I got all the required motorparts as well as a Loksound decoder. And now everything is installed. Here she is in her new digital outfit: http://www.ejberg.dk/external/marklinusers/3352.wmvI still need to experiment a bit with the sound sync, but all in all I am very pleased with the outcome. |
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Great Pic Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Exceptionally dadicate. |
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Mikael,congratulations.
Panayoti,seems we share the same passion. |
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Yes we are. Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
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Panayoti,seems we share the same passion.
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Thanks for the photo! [:p]
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