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Offline Topside  
#1 Posted : 31 December 2012 18:03:53(UTC)
Topside

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I have sold the Titan transformers I used to use with my digital equipment. Is there any problem with using the pictured blue transformer connected to the central unit? I'd like to test some locos. Thank you.
Reed
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Offline kbvrod  
#2 Posted : 31 December 2012 18:13:22(UTC)
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Hi all,
Reed,why did you sell your Titan'sConfused

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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 31 December 2012 18:19:04(UTC)
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Assuming the transformer is correct for your mains voltage there should be no problem using it to power your central unit. Use the L and O outputs.
Ray
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Offline mbarreto  
#4 Posted : 31 December 2012 18:55:06(UTC)
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It is not very powerful, so it won't be able to power as many locos as the appropriate transformer.
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline Topside  
#5 Posted : 31 December 2012 19:11:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,
Reed,why did you sell your Titan'sConfused

Dr D


I'm thinking of selling all my Marklin not that I have a huge amt. Those transformers went first. Been so long since I hooked up the digital equipment, I guess I forgot I needed a transformer. Huh
Thank you everyone for your replies.

Reed.
Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 31 December 2012 20:13:17(UTC)
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I presume the transformer was made for 110 V so with the current mains voltage the output will be higher than it should be.
Probably won't do harm if used for (short) tests only. Power should be enough for one or two locos.
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Offline mike c  
#7 Posted : 31 December 2012 20:35:21(UTC)
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It is not recommended to use those transformers with newer digital loks on analog layouts as the reverse pulse can damage decoders. It is perfectly ok to use these transformers to power accessories or a 6021 using the non-variable voltage output. You should make sure that your model will provide an output that is acceptable for your digital setup as some electrical companies have changed their voltage which could result in either slightly less or slightly increased output from the transformers depending on what changes were implemented.

i.e. A transformer was designed to convert from 120 to 16VAC but will now render 14-15VAC if input has been dropped to 110-117VAC. Conversely, a transformer designed to convert 220 to 16VAC will render 18-20VAC if connected to mains now running at 240, which could damage your equipment.

The new transformers have been designed with these changes in mind and will perform better.

Regards

Mike C
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#8 Posted : 31 December 2012 20:58:03(UTC)
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Mike, Topside wasn't intending to use his blue transformers to run digital locos on an analog layout, rather he wants to use the transformer to power his central control digital unit (6020). This shouldn't be a problem. I've used my 40va blue transformers which are rated for 220v (our mains is 240v) to happily run my CS1. Topside should be fine, subject to the caveats Tom mentions.

Mike's warning only applies for running digital locos on an analog layout
Offline Yumgui  
#9 Posted : 31 December 2012 21:08:39(UTC)
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See one answer to similar question here:

https://www.marklin-users.net/fo...l-system.aspx#post378240

Going from analog to digital is not such a hassle as it seems ...

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Offline Topside  
#10 Posted : 31 December 2012 23:50:12(UTC)
Topside

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Pictured are the 2 transformers I have. What I'd like to do is just test a few locos, one at a time on a small oval. They have not been run for 15 yrs. Two of them were purchased in the 1980's as digital locos, and my other 2 or 3 were converted to digital around that time. JUST ADDED A PIC OF MY #6035 CONTROL 80.

I plan to connect one of the blue transformers to my #6035 Control 80 and test the trains. I'd make connection as pictured in the original post or as in the link from Yum's post. I don't plan to use a booster. Think that'll work? Below are the 2 transformers I have.

Could I use either one or do you suggest one over the other? THANK YOU.


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Offline cookee_nz  
#11 Posted : 01 January 2013 00:44:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Topside Go to Quoted Post
Pictured are the 2 transformers I have. What I'd like to do is just test a few locos, one at a time on a small oval. They have not been run for 15 yrs. Two of them were purchased in the 1980's as digital locos, and my other 2 or 3 were converted to digital around that time. JUST ADDED A PIC OF MY #6035 CONTROL 80.

I plan to connect one of the blue transformers to my #6035 Control 80 and test the trains. I'd make connection as pictured in the original post or as in the link from Yum's post. I don't plan to use a booster. Think that'll work? Below are the 2 transformers I have.

Could I use either one or do you suggest one over the other? THANK YOU.


Hi Reed,

If you are only wanting to test some Loco's, either one really will work just fine as the power source for your Control 80.

The only real difference between the two is that 6667 is 16VA and 6627 is 30VA. If it was me, I'd go for using the 30VA for two reasons.

1: The Control 80 will draw some of the available current anyway so the higher rating will leave more for your loco's - although if testing one at a time, it really won't matter.

2: (Important).... The 30VA has a Red Light. Red Lights are pretty, and will go well with the red light on the Control 80. These small details make the difference between an event, and an experience.

Oh, and another plus... if nothing works, look at the pretty red light. If it's off, no point worrying about the loco BigGrin BigGrin Of course, it's entirely possible after a hard night on the turps that you are already seeing red lights everywhere, and if your Christmas tree is still up, that only complicates things.

Best.

Cookee.....

too much new year wine methinks..... Blushing Blushing Blushing
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Offline H0  
#12 Posted : 01 January 2013 00:45:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Topside Go to Quoted Post
I plan to connect one of the blue transformers to my #6035 Control 80 and test the trains.
You'll have to connect the transformer to the 6020. The 6035 has to be plugged into the 6020.
I think I'd use the 6627 as it provides more power.

OT: I'm a bit irritated about the voltages I see (17 V and 27 V where it's 16 V and 24 V with transformers sold in Germany).

Those voltages shouldn't do harm if used for tests only.
Regards
Tom
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Offline cookee_nz  
#13 Posted : 01 January 2013 05:49:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Topside Go to Quoted Post
I plan to connect one of the blue transformers to my #6035 Control 80 and test the trains.
You'll have to connect the transformer to the 6020. The 6035 has to be plugged into the 6020.
I think I'd use the 6627 as it provides more power.

OT: I'm a bit irritated about the voltages I see (17 V and 27 V where it's 16 V and 24 V with transformers sold in Germany).

Those voltages shouldn't do harm if used for tests only.


Ha ha, indeed, connect to the Central Unit, forgot that minor step because I have a Central Control which you power direct from the Trafo.

The 'floating' voltage is not as accurate as when it is under load, but a volt or three either way won't make much difference and can easily be influenced by the stability of your household supply.

Cheers

Steve
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