Hello collectors!
To celebrate the 60th anniversary of my Märklin addiction, I just drove to the Märklin Museum with one of my grandson.
The best surprize I found: they now sell a repro 1951 catalog (less than €10.00!), the very same one that I got at the time and literally wore out turning pages and making annotations of "what to buy next"...
Sounds familiar, anyone?
At the time, I did not catch (nor understood..) the little insert on pages 30 and 31 where, for the first time, Märklin was proposing an automated block system where the train would influence the signals.(see pic below)
These signals 445G and 480 G were, according to Koll, only produced for one year.
If I understand it right, these would be the only HO signals with double coils *and* a piece of track attached to it. (former ones had the pre WW II older system with single coil and a mechanical "ratchet" to switch from one aspect to the other.)
They would thus be the first double coil HO accessories proposed by Märklin.
The accompanying picture was probably taken with some of the early prototype, as the coil covers, with their double dimple, look quite different from the pictures in the Koll.
In the description, they mention the "Kontakt-Gleisstück" 3600 BSD and 3600 BSA, which do not appear in the 3600 track section of the catalog (but will be referenced in later editions)
There is also a note saying that a detailed Instruction sheet was delivered with the signals.
I have never see this sheet, and I'd love to take a peek at it!
Markus, would you come through once again?
Thanks in advance

Hi Paul
Thanks a bunch.
I have seen the sheet you presented..;but that is the one for the "standard" signals.
I am looking for the other one, specific to these short lived signals, as it is in essence the precursor of the now famous 446 Model Signals booklet, of which I have a 1954 English edition (marked Y 0354 st)
Hope all is well in CA
Cheers

Hi Jacques,

Ok, a peek only: ;-)


Best regards

Markus

Hi Jacques

I am happy that Markus found the sheet you were looking for, because I didn't find that one. I have Paul's sheet but I never seen that one...

It could be great to see what are the other pages of the booklet.

Best regards

Jean-Pierre

Hi all,

Couple of photo's of the 445A signals, no instructions included.

More photo's at Münstertal...Me and my Layout.

Ian.



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Hi Jacques,

Already done. ;-)

Regards

Markus

Hi all,

I bought those signals along with the 445A's and although they came in boxes there are no markings to identify them.

So, looking for more help.

Here's a couple of photo's.

Ian.



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Hi Ian,

Boxes indicate that your signals were produced in early 1953. The information sticker put on the top of each lid was made in 1952 in a quantity of 30,000. This would make sense because typically all paper items were printed before the boxes were made and the items packaged and shipped.

Well that's all I can offer from an "observational" view...as for the operation of these great signals, looks like Jacques is the expert!

Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the information on those signals.

Ian.

I am not quite sure that is this type of track. The road bed is different. This model was used to limit the stop aera for earlier signals.

Hello everyone and I hope you folks still have some of those photos available. I am trying to understand the wiring and outputs for the two 445 G Signals I would like to use.



I understand that the yellow and 2 blue wires control the solenoid to change the signal. Those are hooked up. The lamps get power from the yellow wire and the ground is through the track - so that is easy enough.





The part I am having difficulty with is understanding the 4 open plugs and what Märklin might have had as an example in the original instructions.......

Good idea, eine gute Idee. I will test that with a multimeter and see. Thank you!

Do not really understand you are looking for, but I do not got into this ImageShak.

But here you find a few old books as PDF-files.

https://dermodellbahnblo...ndbuch-anleitungen.html#

And here the old Signal-book. I still got this in original and German of course. But only 58 years old.

http://s341536299.online...341-model-signals-en.pdf

What I am trying to identify is what these 4 electrical connections are for. I assume one set is for the oberleitung. Aber, ich habe keine Ahnung.

Exactly what I needed! Tausend dank Herr Amstutz.......

Thank you Markus, Kurt, TEEWolf & KiwiAlan, (also everyone else if I have forgot a name),

With your help and a multimeter I was able to get the wiring figured out for my 445 G signals. Here is a picture for my future reference and anyone else that might need it. The red & green Stecker are for controlling a Vorsignal (distant signal) and the arrows are for the Oberleitung (Catenary). It drove me batty for a few minutes since I assumed that the Vorsignal Stecker (plugs) would be adjacent to each other as well as the Catenary Plugs. The red & white arrow is for the "power in" and the red & black is for the "power out" to the Oberleitung.

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