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RMW		#1 Posted : 04 November 2010 13:09:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		MÄRKLIN 2011 | NEW ITEMS Download here the official brochures (PDF) Märklin New Items Märklin My World 2011 Märklin Dutch Models 2011 Trix New Items LGB New Items Liefertermine Liefertermine Märklin 2011 Maikel (RMW) Edited by user 24 February 2011 10:27:11(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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steventrain		#2 Posted : 04 November 2010 14:21:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		It is Insider 39013 two years ago, 25 Euro each go to 01 150 fund. Google translation. 01,150 will again steam! Financing finally secured: Steam engine 01,150 becomes off immediately in the steam locomotive work Meiningen regenerated ready for operation (Berlin, 28 October 2010) for the processing of the historical steam engine 01,150 the signals stand finally on trip. After last according to tax law questions could be clarified, the steam locomotive work Meiningen got the order now to regenerate the locomotive again ready for operation. All involved ones agreed on a restoration and an operating concept. The locomotive receives a main investigation for the next eight years. To owe this is the untiring donation collection of Olaf Teubert, a former engine driver of the 01,150, as well as the donors of the foundation German railway. The company Märklin takes part to substantial extent and becomes a model of the locomotive manufactures. In addition a substantial financial participation of the German course AG comes. The transfer of the donation funds is completed over the foundation of the savings since bank Nuremberg. The locomotive will in the future in railways the museum resounds/Saale to be resident and from there the resident association „tradition community German Federal Armed Forces resounds to P registered association “to be operated. The association made itself in the past years with the enterprise of the likewise char-fired steam engine 03 1010 a name. The steam locomotive work Meiningen will immediately ready for operation regenerate the locomotive. The first trips with the locomotive are planned for the autumn 2011. The locomotive will be used country widely in historical railway traffic. Edited by user 04 November 2010 21:39:05(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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RMW		#3 Posted : 30 December 2010 18:16:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		Some new items in 2011: NORMAL PRODUCTS M. 26561 - NS ICL-train (only for the Netherlands) M. (......) - DB BR 01 150??? INSIDER M. 37040 - Insider H0 M. 46350 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 46351 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 46982 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 88783 - Insider Z MUSEUM M. - Museumwagon H0 M. - Museumwagon Z M. - Museumwagon 1 UPDATE IN #35 !!!!! Maikel (RMW) Edited by user 03 January 2011 20:55:19(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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sebastian		#4 Posted : 30 December 2010 18:53:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		Thanks for the update Maikel. I've noticed something like a smoke generator somewhere in the middle side of the locomotive. What is it exactly?
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RMW		#5 Posted : 30 December 2010 18:58:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		sebastian wrote: Thanks for the update Maikel. I've noticed something like a smoke generator somewhere in the middle side of the locomotive. What is it exactly? You mean the new Insider-model BR 50.40? That is a "franco-crosti" locomotive, so you're right; it is something like a "smoke generator" . Maikel (RMW)
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steventrain		#6 Posted : 30 December 2010 19:12:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		sebastian wrote: Thanks for the update Maikel. I've noticed something like a smoke generator somewhere in the middle side of the locomotive. What is it exactly? Insider club 6/2010 said 'The Smoke unit 7226 to be fitted at the normal smoke stack. When running, The smoke stack can be closed with a cap'.
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steventrain		#7 Posted : 30 December 2010 19:18:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		RMW wrote: Some new items in 2011: NORMAL PRODUCTS MUSEUM M. - Museumwagon H0 Maikel (RMW) Catalogue number 48111 Full list of 2011 new items due around 20 Jan.
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sebastian		#8 Posted : 30 December 2010 20:02:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		Sounds good. Thanks guys.
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vilithejou		#9 Posted : 30 December 2010 21:46:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 849 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Last year we have a little news of 2010 at 2 of January (TGV & Glaserner) Hope we know something that year from the same date... Edited by user 31 December 2010 08:19:57(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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sebastian		#10 Posted : 30 December 2010 23:06:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		The BR 50.40 looks quite interesting, with lots of details - the boiler looks impressive.
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pa-pauls		#11 Posted : 30 December 2010 23:29:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		sebastian wrote: The BR 50.40 looks quite interesting, with lots of details - the boiler looks impressive. Have you not ordered it yet duuuuuude ?
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sebastian		#12 Posted : 30 December 2010 23:44:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		Duuuude! Will order as soon as they open up the ordering desk. pa-pauls wrote: sebastian wrote: The BR 50.40 looks quite interesting, with lots of details - the boiler looks impressive. Have you not ordered it yet duuuuuude ?
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TimR		#13 Posted : 31 December 2010 00:35:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		sebastian wrote: The BR 50.40 looks quite interesting, with lots of details - the boiler looks impressive. I like to see whether they'd also push for at least one new tooling BR44/50/52 for the mass market - now that they decided they should have a more modern design decapods. Trix H0 would desperately need such model, considering the current model BR44 was labelled as a "piece of crap; old, not detailed enough , and noisy" in one DC forum that I visited. That consensus in the DC market is that such model seem typically Trix.
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steamy		#14 Posted : 31 December 2010 01:10:55(UTC) Retweet
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H0		#15 Posted : 31 December 2010 01:14:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,437 Location: DE-NW		pa-pauls wrote: sebastian wrote: The BR 50.40 looks quite interesting, with lots of details - the boiler looks impressive. Have you not ordered it yet duuuuuude ? Still waiting for the order form. Canoe starts end of January.
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H0		#16 Posted : 31 December 2010 01:20:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,437 Location: DE-NW		TimR wrote: I like to see whether they'd also push for at least one new tooling BR44/50/52 for the mass market I guess they'll follow in 2012 and later years. They are all Decapods, but with different frames, different boilers, different wheelsets, different cabs.
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sebastian		#17 Posted : 31 December 2010 02:21:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		From the images posted so far, it looks like Marklin is going in the right direction. This new locomotive seems to be a serious departure from what Marklin has produced in the past few years. I am already excited about this new loco and will put an order for one as soon as the forms are in. Depending how it performs, I might even get two. The price is quite steep, if the 429 euro price proves to be true.. Regarding the BR44/50/52, it would be nice to see new tooling, similar to this new one. Marklin might even have some surprises for us later in the year, who knows... I honestly prefer quality instead of quantity.
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TimR		#18 Posted : 31 December 2010 10:31:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		H0 wrote: TimR wrote: I like to see whether they'd also push for at least one new tooling BR44/50/52 for the mass market I guess they'll follow in 2012 and later years. They are all Decapods, but with different frames, different boilers, different wheelsets, different cabs. BR50.40 is a development of the BR50, isn't it? At the very least, the BR50 should be a good start... the underframe should be the same, the cab is usually made of plastic anyways. It was not long ago before the outsider club, which made up 99% of customers were well served with new tooling steamers almost every year; BR01(2006), BR18.3, BR64(2008), and BR23(2009). I still think that their main problem is with Trix; as we've discussed recently, Marklin 3-rail growth potential is smaller as opposed to if they further develop their 2-rail lineup (Trix/Marklin 2-rail). It's really up to them how they want to promote their brands at the end of the day. We might be ok to wait till 2012, but customers in the DC market won't. But we'll see how it goes..
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H0		#19 Posted : 31 December 2010 10:41:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,437 Location: DE-NW		sebastian wrote: From the images posted so far, it looks like Marklin is going in the right direction. The pictures of the BR 50.40 show a Roco model with Weinert parts - a so-called "handmade sample". It sure looks good, but don't hang your heart on small details. I'd be surprised if wheels and steering of the final model would look exactly like those of the prototype.
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H0		#20 Posted : 31 December 2010 11:00:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,437 Location: DE-NW		TimR wrote: BR50.40 is a development of the BR50, isn't it? Yes, but the boiler was raised to make space for the new parts, the cab was raised, it had the new-style front lights and no sand domes, the smoke stack was moved. I don't have any inside information, I'm only guessing. I guess they don't want to have a plain-vanilla BR 50 to compete with the BR 50.40 in the same year - besides the fact that it requires a lot changes. Here's a report about a BR 50 being converted to a BR 50.40 (N scale): http://www.n-dampf.de/5040.htm
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TimR		#21 Posted : 31 December 2010 11:30:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		H0 wrote: TimR wrote: BR50.40 is a development of the BR50, isn't it? Yes, but the boiler was raised to make space for the new parts, the cab was raised, it had the new-style front lights and no sand domes, the smoke stack was moved. I don't have any inside information, I'm only guessing. I guess they don't want to have a plain-vanilla BR 50 to compete with the BR 50.40 in the same year - besides the fact that it requires a lot changes. Here's a report about a BR 50 being converted to a BR 50.40 (N scale): http://www.n-dampf.de/5040.htm Thanks for the link! Offer a good perspective on the difference between the two models.. It'd still be a cost effective option to build BOTH models at the cost of just one-and-a-half of new tooling - same underframe, two different upper frame (boiler, cab, etc). I don't think vanilla BR50 will compete with the BR50.40 Insider. Those who are members of Insider Club (I imagined they have to like steamers a lot too!) will likely bought both models. There'd be less demand from the "outsiders" to buy the Insider model through eBay, if that is considered competition. Then there'd still be quite a lot outsider club members who'd buy both models anyway still... And there be new demand from outsider for vanilla BR50. or better yet, maybe a new BR52 - since the tooling of this model is more outdated than the current BR50. But we'll see when the full list appears...
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mattj70		#22 Posted : 31 December 2010 18:53:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 474 Location: Hudson FL		Could you tell me if there are any 4MFOR items in the 2011 catalog? I have heard they are being done away with? I glad I bought the ones I have they really look great. Matt
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RMW		#23 Posted : 31 December 2010 19:50:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		Maybe this is the link for the 2011 new items: Märklin.de. Maikel (RMW)
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SINCrazee		#24 Posted : 01 January 2011 15:23:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 309 Location: SIN , ICAO: WSSS		Damn !! I can't wait for the 2011 items!! Let 's see whether they have any great new toolings being done.... @Steamy ... The Catalog looks really classy..
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mike c		#25 Posted : 01 January 2011 19:31:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,220 Location: Montreal, QC		Matt: From what I have read, the 4MFOR collection is not being continued. Existing models are being liquidated. Regards Mike C
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sebastian		#26 Posted : 02 January 2011 00:13:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		Yep, the 4MFOR is being discontinued. Let's hope M will concentrate on bringing us some exciting models in the new year. Especially now that the Bellingrodt series is over, it will be quite a challenge for them to come out with something at least of the same magnitude.
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#27 Posted : 02 January 2011 07:34:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		I hope some Era II stuff comes out,I'd like either a Saxon XXHV (DRG19) or XVIIIH (DRG18.0)
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NS1200		#28 Posted : 02 January 2011 14:01:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		RMW wrote: Some new items in 2011: NORMAL PRODUCTS M. 26561 - NS ICL-train (only for the Netherlands) M. (......) - DB BR 01 150??? INSIDER M. 37040 - Insider H0 M. 46350 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 46351 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 46982 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 88783 - Insider Z MUSEUM M. - Museumwagon H0 M. - Museumwagon Z M. - Museumwagon 1 Maikel (RMW) Maerklin 26561: Again,nothing new under the sun with this set,merely a rearrangement of individual products released in earlier years. The NS electric loco has been issued several times before,albeit with different roadnumbers,the DB style coaches in NS colours were issued earlier in a set of 3 pieces. So,to me this is again like selling old wine in new bottles..... Interesting to note about the real life version of the DB coaches is that the roofs are usually buckled and dented over the full length,as if damaged by a severe hailstorm,nothing like the smoothly finised roofs of the model coaches!
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RMW		#29 Posted : 02 January 2011 15:00:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		There will also follow some other new models for the Netherlands in 2011, but these are all locomotives from "earlier years". Maikel (RMW)
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steamy		#30 Posted : 03 January 2011 15:43:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: Germany		Märklin: 37925 DB IV 042 Öl €429,95 37926 dito, jedoch ohne Sound €369,95 37740 DB IV 216 Lollo €279,95 37791 PBKA Thalys €469,95 43421/43431/43441 Ergänzungen Thalys €139,95 Trix: 22372 DB IV 042 Öl 22374 DB IV 042 Öl Sound 22174 DB IV 216 Lollo 22371 PBKA Thalys 23466 / 23467 / 23468 Ergänzungen Thalys LGB: 20980 Säschsische Ik Epoche IV 20990 Säschsische IIk Epoche IV http://mlankhaar-modeltr.../mrklinneuheiten2011.htm
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SINCrazee		#31 Posted : 03 January 2011 16:16:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 309 Location: SIN , ICAO: WSSS		steamy wrote: [size=7]Märklin: 37925 DB IV 042 Öl 37926 dito, jedoch ohne Sound 37740 DB IV 216 Lollo 37791 PBKA Thalys 43421/43431/43441 Ergänzungen Thalys http://mlankhaar-modeltr.../mrklinneuheiten2011.htm Great job Marklin for introducing the Thalys. I love it! I will get it late this year. Hopefully it will be fitted with two speakers instead of one and also equipped with two power units(No dummy power car)
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RayF		#32 Posted : 03 January 2011 18:13:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		The 042 is the oil fired Br41. I wonder if this is a new tooling with correct boiler and a motor in the boiler instead of the cab. We get the Lollo once again. Plastic or metal? I hope there's more to come...
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steamy		#33 Posted : 03 January 2011 18:33:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: Germany		RayPayas wrote: We get the Lollo once again. Plastic or metal? Metal...
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vilithejou		#34 Posted : 03 January 2011 19:11:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 849 Location: Vic, Barcelona		steamy wrote: RayPayas wrote: We get the Lollo once again. Plastic or metal? Metal... & photos?... please... or original information from märklin
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RMW		#35 Posted : 03 January 2011 20:52:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		Some new items in 2011 (update): MÄRKLIN NORMAL PRODUCTS M. 26561 - NS ICL-train (only for the Netherlands) M. 37740 - DB IV 216 Lollo M. 37791 - PBKA Thalys M. 37925 - DB IV 042 Öl (Sound) M. 37926 - DB IV 042 Öl M. 43421 - Thalys Set 1 M. 43431 - Thalys Set 2 M. 43441 - Thalys Set 3 MÄRKLIN SPECIALS M. 37040 - Insider H0 M. 46350 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 46351 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 46982 - Insider H0 (wagons) M. 88783 - Insider Z M. - Museumwagon H0 M. - Museumwagon Z M. - Museumwagon 1 M. - DB BR 01 150??? TRIX NORMAL ITEMS T. 22174 - DB IV 216 Lollo T. 22371 - PBKA Thalys T. 22372 - DB IV 042 Öl T. 22374 - DB IV 042 Öl (Sound) T. 23466 - Thalys Set 1 T. 23467 - Thalys Set 2 T. 23468 - Thalys Set 3 LGB NORMAL ITEMS L. 20980 - Säschsische Ik Epoche IV L. 20990 - Säschsische IIk Epoche IV Maikel (RMW)
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steventrain		#36 Posted : 03 January 2011 21:06:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		steamy wrote: 37925 DB IV 042 Öl €429,95 37926 dito, jedoch ohne Sound €369,95 Just like this? The picture was Roco model.
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steamy		#37 Posted : 03 January 2011 23:34:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: Germany		Yes, that's right...
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TimR		#38 Posted : 04 January 2011 00:26:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Not really sure how accurate this list would likely be... if the new Lollo is metal, I think it'll use the lower frame of BR218. 37791 sounds like a natural development from the new TGV tooling. the BR 042 sounds like a very good idea, I'd likely get the no sound version. OTOH there is no 39xxx on the list - sounds like another nail in the coffin.
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RayF		#39 Posted : 04 January 2011 00:34:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		TimR wrote: OTOH there is no 39xxx on the list - sounds like another nail in the coffin. I wouldn't read too much into this yet. There aren't any 36xxx either. It is a very short list, and I expect we'll hear about some more items soon.
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H0		#40 Posted : 04 January 2011 00:47:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,437 Location: DE-NW		TimR wrote: if the new Lollo is metal, I think it'll use the lower frame of BR218. The Lollo is 40 cm shorter than the BR 218. TimR wrote: 37791 sounds like a natural development from the new TGV tooling. Good move as it travels France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany. I've never been in either a TGV or a Thalys but I heard the interiors are different. I'm afraid M* won't modify the interior, but I'll get it anyway. It'll be interesting to compare the prices of 37791 and 37790. TimR wrote: the BR 042 sounds like a very good idea After last year's Insider model 03.10 was announced, experts said the same boiler could be used for a BR 042. New boiler? New frame? We'll see ...
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mvd71		#41 Posted : 04 January 2011 01:08:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,918 Location: Auckland,		Quote: TimR wrote: the BR 042 sounds like a very good idea After last year's Insider model 03.10 was announced, experts said the same boiler could be used for a BR 042. New boiler? New frame? We'll see ... I think a 42 using the 03.10 boiler is very likely, as it enables marklin to provide a different model without having to invest in any new tooling. The tender already exists, the chassis exists, and the boiler exists. Nice cheap to produce new loco, exactly what they need right now. Cheers.... Mike.
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TimR		#42 Posted : 04 January 2011 01:19:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		H0 wrote: TimR wrote: if the new Lollo is metal, I think it'll use the lower frame of BR218. The Lollo is 40 cm shorter than the BR 218. I think it'll be too costly for Marklin to modify the BR218 underframe to accommodate this.. hence why in the past with the old toolings; BR216/218 is somewhat interchangeable. AFAIK isn't the Marklin Taurus use the underframe dimension of BR152? IMO such compromise is fine... as the length difference in 1/87 scale is only 0.45cm. 18.9cm vs 18.4cm - around 2.44% longer in length.
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TimR		#43 Posted : 04 January 2011 01:22:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		RayPayas wrote: TimR wrote: OTOH there is no 39xxx on the list - sounds like another nail in the coffin. I wouldn't read too much into this yet. There aren't any 36xxx either. It is a very short list, and I expect we'll hear about some more items soon. Let's hope so, Ray...
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H0		#44 Posted : 04 January 2011 01:55:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,437 Location: DE-NW		TimR wrote: I think it'll be too costly for Marklin to modify the BR218 underframe to accommodate this.. hence why in the past with the old toolings; BR216/218 is somewhat interchangeable. Lollo and BR 218 don't have much in common: they need a new cover and a new Diesel tank, so I presume that changing the length of the invisible frame won't be much extra work. We'll know in about three weeks time. With BR 152/182 the difference is 30 cm or 1.57 % - and they received a lot of bashing for that. With Lollo ist 40 cm or 2.5 %.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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sebastian		#45 Posted : 04 January 2011 02:19:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		steventrain wrote: Just like this? The picture was Roco model. This 42 looks pretty awesome I could say. I am already in line for one. I am still waiting for that BR06. Maybe this year it comes out. Oh, and we need more SBB Era III, freight and passenger. There's not a wealth of models available to start with. Well, I guess it's too late for them make them for this year, but maybe for the next year.
		DRG, DB and SBB Era II, III and IV Sincerely, Sebastian
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SINCrazee		#46 Posted : 04 January 2011 10:04:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 309 Location: SIN , ICAO: WSSS		H0 wrote: TimR wrote: if the new Lollo is metal, I think it'll use the lower frame of BR218. The Lollo is 40 cm shorter than the BR 218. TimR wrote: 37791 sounds like a natural development from the new TGV tooling. Good move as it travels France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany. I've never been in either a TGV or a Thalys but I heard the interiors are different. I'm afraid M* won't modify the interior, but I'll get it anyway. It'll be interesting to compare the prices of 37791 and 37790. I will get the Thalys as well.. Red vs blue and silver.. You 're right.. The interior is indeed different.. TGV POS First class TGV Thalys PBKA Comfort 2 Cheers Chan
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pab		#47 Posted : 04 January 2011 17:19:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		TimR wrote: Not really sure how accurate this list would likely be... OTOH there is no 39xxx on the list - sounds like another nail in the coffin. An economic decision, same locos for trix and märklin, as for the BR 02 1001.
		With kind regards Piet Brijs Website: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~pabrijs Topic in Marklin-users.net: https://www.marklin-user...pics/18-Me-and-my-layout Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/pietbrs?feature=guide
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Armando		#48 Posted : 04 January 2011 19:48:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		RMW wrote: Some new items in 2011 (update): MÄRKLIN NORMAL PRODUCTS M. 26561 - NS ICL-train (only for the Netherlands) M. 37791 - PBKA Thalys MM. 43421 - Thalys Set 1 M. 43431 - Thalys Set 2 M. 43441 - Thalys Set 3 TRIX NORMAL ITEMS T. 22371 - PBKA Thalys T. 23466 - Thalys Set 1 T. 23467 - Thalys Set 2 T. 23468 - Thalys Set 3 Maikel (RMW) I fear that these new items will again be made all of plastic... which means that, alas, the downward mediocrity trend continues....
		Best regards, Armando García
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Armando		#49 Posted : 04 January 2011 19:51:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		mvd71 wrote: Quote: TimR wrote: the BR 042 sounds like a very good idea After last year's Insider model 03.10 was announced, experts said the same boiler could be used for a BR 042. New boiler? New frame? We'll see ... I think a 42 using the 03.10 boiler is very likely, as it enables marklin to provide a different model without having to invest in any new tooling. The tender already exists, the chassis exists, and the boiler exists. Nice cheap to produce new loco, exactly what they need right now. Cheers.... Mike. Unfortunately, it will be sold to us in Big $$$$ Bucks all the same, despite the recycling of parts.
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RayF		#50 Posted : 04 January 2011 20:24:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Armando wrote: RMW wrote: Some new items in 2011 (update): MÄRKLIN NORMAL PRODUCTS M. 26561 - NS ICL-train (only for the Netherlands) M. 37791 - PBKA Thalys MM. 43421 - Thalys Set 1 M. 43431 - Thalys Set 2 M. 43441 - Thalys Set 3 TRIX NORMAL ITEMS T. 22371 - PBKA Thalys T. 23466 - Thalys Set 1 T. 23467 - Thalys Set 2 T. 23468 - Thalys Set 3 Maikel (RMW) I fear that these new items will again be made all of plastic... which means that, alas, the downward mediocrity trend continues.... Over the years most of Marklin's railcars have been made of plastic, so I don't think this shows a downward trend. These railcars are essentially coaches with motors, so it makes sense to use the same materials normally used for coaches, and that has been plastic since the seventies (except for a couple of notable exceptions!).
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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