Hello,

software available on the Update-Server since a few minutes.

Just let your CS2 call to home

the double slip 2275 is now working properly....and you can connect the CS1.

rgds

Stephan

Hello,

you can connect CS2 and CS1 together through the LAN cable.

rgds

Stephan

Hello,

do that.

Than go into the setup menue, press on the wrench and you will find a CS1 menue.

rgds

Stephan

Hello Pal.

I wrote "Update Server". This is the server, where the CS connects when you press the "update" button in the setup menue.

rgds

Stephan

Hello,

if it would not be released, it would not be available on the server. I know what happened once in the past, but this is gone now.

If you mind, you can wait for the USB version.

rgds

Stephan

Changelog:

GUI Version 1.3.0 build 1, GFP 1.24 (Januar 2010)

* Diese Softwareversion soll die Möglichkeit der Verbindung mit verschiedenen Geräten verbessern
* Für die Verbindung zur 6021 mit dem connect6021 werden jetzt die verbundenen Loks dauerhaft gespeichert
* Die Verbindung zu einer zweiten CS2 kann jetzt einzeln für die Seiten keyboard, layout, memory und control eingestellt werden
* Auch bei größeren Datenmengen (mehr als 300 Loks ...) funktioniert die Verbindung jetzt besser als bisher
* Die Daten werden beim Start mit dem Master abgeglichen. Wenn später Änderungen erfolgen, werden diese ebenso an alle Geräte geschickt.
* Die übertragene Datenmenge wurde auf etwa die Hälfte reduziert, indem Defaultwerte jeweils nicht übertragen werden
* Die Verbindung zu einer CS1 kann jetzt über ein Netzwerkkabel hergestellt werden. Ausgewählte Daten können auf Anforderung zwischen den Geräten ausgetauscht werden
* Die Verbindung zu einer 6021 kann jetzt über den connect6021 (60128) erfolgen. Eine Seite im Setup verwaltet die Liste der Loks, die über die Fahrgeräte control 80F gesteuert werden können
* Die DKW mit 2 Antrieben kann ab jetzt im keyboard und layout eingesetzt werden
* Wenn ein Magnetartikel mit ungültiger Stellung aus einem Backup gelesen wurde konnte der Aufruf der entsprechenden Seite im Layout das Programm beenden. Jetzt werden ungültige Stellungen ignoriert.
* Es können jetzt auch alle Loks gleichzeitig ausgewählt und in die CS1 übertragen werden
* Die Stellung von Magnetartikel auf im Moment nicht sichtbaren layoutseiten wird jetzt auch aktualisiert
* Die Hilfe wurde um Punkte für CS1 und 6021 Hilfe erweitert

English translation:
- This software will improve connection to different devices
- Connection to 6021 with connect6021 now stores the mapping address
- When connected to a second CSII you can only connect 'keyboard' 'layout' 'memory' 'control'pages
- With a lot of data (more than 300 locs) connection is improved
- Data is synchronised with master after startup and during usage
- Only non-default values are transferred
- CS1 connection with network cable, selected data can be transferred
- 6021 connection with connect6021. Seperate page for locs assigned to control 80F
- Double slip switches for keyboard and layout
- Crash fixed for devices with wrong setting when restoring backup
- All locs can be selected and transferred to CS1
- Position of switches/signals on non visable layout pages is updated
- Help text for CS1 and 6021 expanded.

Have fun

Great! Now, who will be the first to connect a CS1 v3.0 or even an EcOS v3.0 to a CS2 v1.3.0?

I've been waiting for this to happen to decide whether to upgrade my stored CS1 to v3.0 or just sell it, but I need to know if it works.

Hmmmm... I have a CS1 v3.0 also that I use for testing, programming etc. but I don't know if I will be the first one to test it do...

Way Cool

In combination with a 60128 <Connect 6021> the available connections options enormous.
Also allows satellite controllers to control/power their own domains but be aware of changes made by another throttle.

A little bit of German logic (flow) to contend with and a bit more needed in the Help (i.e. file missing from the download - will have to wait for the USB) HOWEVER quite functional

FYI. German help parsed through google translate


connect Central Station 1

It is possible to pass the Central Station 60213/60214 (CS2), a Central Station 60212 (join CS1) and operate. The following procedure describes how to prepare the equipment and be connected. For the joint operation of the devices together, the CS1 may not have access to the vehicle track.

Step 1: Preparation
We recommend that you create before the joining of CS1 and CS2 of the data on the CS1 a full backup. Please note this information in the manual of the Central Station 60212th After the data of the CS1 were backed up, it's completely from the track and possibly connected boosters separated.

Step 2: Structure
To get the broadest possible ways in which the CS2 operated as a "PC" in the CS1. The devices are so similar to a computer network connected to each other. There are several possibilities:

Step 2a: CS1 directly to CS2
Use a crossover network cable (Crossover patch cables, computer accessories in commercially available) and connect the two devices together. Set both devices to "Manual address assignment. Set in the CS1 (Setup1, network settings, IP address) the IP 192.168.1.55 (network address) and set in CS2 (setup, IP, CS-IP) address, the IP 192.168.1.53 (default on).

or

Step 2b: CS1 and CS2 in an existing computer network (hub, switch or Rooter)
Connect the two devices, each with a non-crossed network cable (patch cable, the computer-commercially available) to the network. When active in the network, a DHCP server, and both devices are set to automatic address allocation, both devices will be assigned an IP address. Read the assigned address in the CS1 and record them.
If no DHCP server is active, enter the addresses manually. Set both devices to "Manual address assignment. Set in the CS1 (Setup1, network settings, IP address) the IP 192.168.1.55 (network address) and set in CS2 (setup, IP, CS-IP) address, the IP 192.168.1.53 (default on).

Note:
Note that the Central Station after switching the network connection not immediately builds. Wait after switching around 1 to 2 minutes before using the settings of the IP address check or edit. In addition, the cable connection before switching on the device must be manufactured.

Step 3: connect
Prerequisites: Both devices are turned on, connected, CS1 separated from the track, IP addresses, both devices are known.
Call of CS2 in the page setup "CS1". Select the button "Add CS1.
In the new window you can enter a name for the connected CS1. The name is used only for clarity and may be freely selected.
Enter the IP address of the connected to CS1.
Reading With the key CS1 configuration, you can now read the configuration of the CS1 to CS2 and play.

Note:
To ensure the stable operation of the two devices, we recommend having the configuration of the CS1 was read, delete, delete them in the CS1 (CS1 button configuration. And then follow through with the CS1 reboot. Then you can CS1 of locomotives and accessory reassign.

Note:
Of CS1, you can assign a maximum of 250 locomotives (addresses). The assigned locomotives to operate in the CS1 always with Motorola as a locomotive decoder with a maximum of 4 functions. Locomotives with more than 4 functions, show the correspondingly more addresses.
Please note that the Lokmenü of CS1 with increasing number of locomotives is getting lazy. We therefore recommend that you assign as few locomotives.

I don't think you will do any damage to either device. It's just bits flowing across a data cable. Either they will talk to each other happily or they won't.

Sorry Stephan, I don't have a CS1, curiosity push me (the limits of my English as well ...): do you mean that we find into the CS2 a menu for settings & tuning to make work the CS1 & CS2 together?...Or is there something else in this menue ?
thank you
(I would hope pictures from kind contributors, I daren't ask... )

The synchronisation function is available again. Only if you have a master CS2 and a second CS2.

Steamer01.

Thanks Peter! It will be interesting to see whether this works with a CS1 v3.0 or Ecos v3.0.

I would ask, Why not implement it! People brought their CS1's in good faith, and Marklin ditched them all like a hot potato when they released the CS2. At least ESU have provided some sort of upgrade path for CS1 owners.

But, it looks like Marklin wants to alienate a good proportion of their customers! They don't do it it because they don't like ESU any more, and they don't want to keep updating their legacy equipment. That's their choice, but I don't think it is a smart move for a company in insolvency!

For sure Stephan. It would have been nice if the 'differences' (whatever they were) could have been sorted out for the sake of their customers. But they weren't sorted, so we the customer, have to live with the outcomes, and do the best we can.

Has anyone tried downgrading a v3.0 CS1 back to v2.0.4?

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Edited by user 21 November 2010 02:20:08(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

CS1 and CS2 connection works like a charm.
It's amazing. You can now control 6 locomotives at one time:
- 2 with CS2
- 2 with CS1
- 2 with 2 seperate MS1's.

This CS2 is a whole other deal than the CS1 ever was.

The question is: are they really incompatible or is this just a version check either to be on the safe side or to keep ECoS outside?

DOS 3.3 utilities didn't run under DOS 4.0 - but it was only the version check that prevented that.
A few years later they brought SETVER.EXE that allowed to fake the DOS version and the utilities were running again.

So Märklin could remove the version check - or ESU could fake the version reported by CS 1 reloaded.
If there are incompatibilities, either side could fix them.
It doesn't take reverse engineering if both sides would communicate for the benefit of their customers.

My CS 1 is reloaded. And this CS 2 limitation is another reason for me not to buy a CS 2 as long as my CS 1 is still functioning.

Hello Tom,

since you have a CS1 reloaded I do not see any advantage for you to buy a CS2. Why should you? So this should be the same thinking of Märklin. So why wasting capacities and money on this subject?

ESU is not communicating anything about the CS1 reloaded. Do you know where to find the communication protocole of the CS1 reloaded??? I don't (no, it is not exactly the same than the EcoS).

So if ESU is not communicating to anyone, why should Märklin implement something?

This arrogant behaviour of ESU is the reason why I do not buy directly products from them anymore. The last product was the Loksound for my Gottardo 1 year ago and this will not happen anymore.

Märklin put the guarantee on that what was done under their authority (Vers. 2.04). Everything else doesn't matter and it is ok for me.
And at the time the ESU update was announced, Märklin informed that they will not support reloaded CS1, because the development was not more under their control and they could not take any responsibility.
So who updated anyway should not be wondering about the incompatibility to Märklin products.

rgds

Stephan

I have a CS2 and a CS1 v2.0.4. I wished the CS1 v3.0 would work with the CS2 because the EcOS/CS1 v3.0 have a unique capability that interests me: the capability to control a turntable using a Lokpilot, instead of the conventional way. I have modified mine that way. My intention was to use the CS1 v3.0 as a dedicated TT area controller and the CS2 as a master controller.

Hi,

technically there would be no problem updating a CS1 from a CS2 yet not neccessary as an update can be made from the CS1 itself. If it will ever be done is another question. Depends on if M* has the sources for the CS1-software and if they want/need to perform any updates for it.

Maybe he means if the product listing in the cs1 can be updates through a CS2.
Mine didn't update but it would be usefull if it did.

In the same way as the ms was automatically updated by the cs1.

Edited by user 19 January 2010 10:53:29(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

What do you think they mean with " read ...by CAN ?
Possibility to read by CAN...instead of what ?
Anyway, data of the decoders are always read through wheels + rails, so....if they want it to go through the CAN bus what does it means ? ability to connect "something able to read data" on the Can bus ??? Am I completely off

Are they talking about boosters sections only ?
Are they preparing something else ( improving the reading of the lok setting also means "improving communication with the loks "... )