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Offline laalves  
#1 Posted : 20 May 2004 21:43:10(UTC)
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Does anyone have an idea on the price tag difference between these two models? On average, 80 to 90 euros.

Is it just the painting for such a difference, or is there anything more important?

Both have sound and C-sine. So.....?????
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Offline rugauger  
#2 Posted : 21 May 2004 01:22:43(UTC)
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Not exactly sure, but looking at the product descriptions on the m* website, 39104:
<ul><li>has a whistle sound</li>
<li>has running gear lights</li>
<li>is a one-time MHI series</li></ul>
Richard
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Offline applor  
#3 Posted : 21 May 2004 15:28:38(UTC)
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they look quite different.
39103 is oil fired with the tender at full height the whole length.
39104 is coal fired.

I'm going by whats listed on this website:
http://www.eurorailhobbi...amp;MN=1&stock=39103
http://www.eurorailhobbi...amp;MN=1&stock=39104
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Offline Noel Loganathan  
#4 Posted : 22 May 2004 02:43:32(UTC)
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The 39104

Model: Locomotive comes with a digital decoder, C-Sine high-efficiency propulsion, running gear lights and sound effects generator. 3 axles powered. 2 traction tires. Can be retrofitted with the 7226 smoke generator kit. Headlights and smoke generator contact will work in conventional operation and can be controlled digitally. Steam locomotive sound effects that vary with the speed of the locomotive, running gear lights as well as the whistle sound effects can be controlled digitally with the Control Unit 6021. Boiler bands painted on separately. Buffer plates with warning stripes. Length over the buffers 27.7 cm / 10-7/8".

You could also see the Marklin URL

Cheers
Noel
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Offline Frostie  
#5 Posted : 23 May 2004 15:28:32(UTC)
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It looks great ! However there is the issue with the intro of the new MFX decoder. Locomotives now have the more functionality. In fact 100% of locomotives should have telex couplers as standard (IMHO).

I am going to wait to see what will be offered in the future. Also when will they offer MFX decoders that can be retrofitted to make a good locomotive better.

I will not be buying this one.
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Offline hqstu  
#6 Posted : 24 May 2004 04:48:09(UTC)
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Hi All,

Yes I too would be waiting a while to see what comes out with the mfx decoders... It is likely the 39104 has the same internals as the 39103, which I wasn't too impressed with both the sound and running characteristics (fast slow down due to C-Sine).

Having said that I've just bought a 37652 diesel switcher that somes with TELEX at both ends... The 37xxx motors have good running properties.
Cheers

Stuart
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Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 03 May 2005 00:38:51(UTC)
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The 39103 and 39104 was same functions (smoke unit,gear light,whistle,steam sound and brake delay).Both was my favourites locos[:p]
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Offline H0  
#8 Posted : 03 May 2005 16:13:25(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves
<br />Is it just the painting for such a difference, or is there anything more important?

39104 is an MHI exclusive article and most dealers sell it for the RRP (though I saw it for 342 Euro already).
39104 has additional paintings (Kesselringe, buffers) - you have to decide what this is worth for you.
Regards
Tom
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Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 06 May 2005 01:13:18(UTC)
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THE 39104 WORTH ABOUT 50 EUROS MORE THAT 39103.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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