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Nigel Packer
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05 March 2015 14:35:55(UTC)
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While we're here with this very useful list, it might be useful, Juhan, if you added motor parts number E188838, which are the motor conversion parts for the F800 series BR 01 (F800, 3008, 3026, 3048 and Primex 3193).
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You may also want:
E610080
Lamp bi pin 0.7 VA @ 19 V Digital
While E610080 is the correct lamp, the specs are probably incorrect.
From dealer web site:
E610080 Märklin Ersatzlampe Allglas T1 3,2mm 22V 24mA
E600080 Märklin Ersatzlampe Allglas T1 19V 50mA
http://www.lokmuseum.de/...artikel.php?SArt=1004529
http://www.lokmuseum.de/...artikel.php?SArt=1004523
"Analogue" Märklin H0 light bulbs are 19 V, "digital" light bulbs are 22 V.
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20 February 2018 09:48:07(UTC)
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I wonder if it wold be possible to list the various decoders available, and what loco types they will fit, along with their pro's and con's. And of course, make it a "sticky".
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20 February 2018 10:23:57(UTC)
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That would be a good one!!!🚂🚂🚂
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21 February 2018 09:54:08(UTC)
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Bugger all interest though.
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21 February 2018 10:29:13(UTC)
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Bugger all interest though.
Nothing stopping you starting the list....
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21 February 2018 18:14:29(UTC)
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well, it seems interesting, but....
Motor parts are that, motor parts and there is no discussion about that, using a HAMO magnet or upgrade to 5 pole is no matter of doubt, except for budget.
Having sais that, for decos is a totally different thing with many variables involved such as brand, system used, sound or no sound, personal taste of the user, etc
so a full review may be a little complex to do and always biased by the user.
Personally, using a CS2 and mfx, my choice for non sound deco is mainly Marklin decos.
For sound decoders i always use Loksounds M4, must say that i am heavily tempted by Doehler & Haas lately and may go that way in the future even if they are not mfx capable, but sound is great.
As for decoder interface i am doing all my work with 21 MTC
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22 February 2018 00:27:38(UTC)
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Nothing stopping you starting the list....
Ok. Will ask the question in a different thread,.
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22 February 2018 01:57:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg
well, it seems interesting, but....
Motor parts are that, motor parts and there is no discussion about that, using a HAMO magnet or upgrade to 5 pole is no matter of doubt, except for budget.
Having sais that, for decos is a totally different thing with many variables involved such as brand, system used, sound or no sound, personal taste of the user, etc
so a full review may be a little complex to do and always biased by the user.
Personally, using a CS2 and mfx, my choice for non sound deco is mainly Marklin decos.
For sound decoders i always use Loksounds M4, must say that i am heavily tempted by Doehler & Haas lately and may go that way in the future even if they are not mfx capable, but sound is great.
As for decoder interface i am doing all my work with 21 MTC
Regards
Hi, wondering if you could also use these ESU magnets instead of the ones that come with the Märklin conversion kits (ie 60941/943/944), while still using the M kit 5 pole armature, brushes and motor shield? As far as I can tell there is no other manufacturer for the armatures, brushes and shields.
http://www.esu.eu/en/pro...ories/permanent-magnets/
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22 February 2018 02:52:41(UTC)
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Hi, AFAIK when using HAMO magnets ( ESU ones ) you must retain the motorshield and 3 pole rotor. The diameter of a 5 pole rotor is much less than the 3 poles ones, using magnets designed for these rotors will make too much space betweenthis one and the magnet.
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22 February 2018 21:47:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dominator
Nothing stopping you starting the list....
Ok. Will ask the question in a different thread,.
Here's a big long list of decoders, but it doesn't include anything from Märklin. Not sure that there's much useful info there either from a Märklin perspective.
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23 February 2018 04:33:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz
Here's a big long list of decoders
Hi David,
Is there a link missing from your message?
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27 August 2019 13:34:59(UTC)
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Hi everyone, on page two in the first video on how to digitise a motor the anchor or rotor is shown, is this the Large rotor as the 3 'green' bits are sticking way out of the 3 copper flat surface compared to the Small one where they are hidden behind the flat 3 copper surfaces ?
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18 February 2020 18:27:01(UTC)
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So if I read this all correctly I should be able to convert my analog loko to digital. This, to me, means that I can control them with my MS2 but will not have sound. (One of Marklin's shops told me that there isn't room in the loko housing to put a speaker and the other component(s) to make the sounds.)
I'm OK without the sound on my conversions as I really like the loko and would love to keep it in the arsenal of locomotives for use on the layout.
The main loko I want to convert is a 3316 series 25. Beautiful loko and I'd only get half of what I have invested in it.
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18 February 2020 18:31:03(UTC)
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https://www.ebay.com/itm...a4e13:g:ieYAAMXQeW5TYuue
This would be the unit to do the above?
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Originally Posted by: Norton1972
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marklin-HO-60941-Digital-High-Efficiency-Locomotive-Motor-Conversion-from-60760/191399349779?epid=9003303178&hash=item2c904a4e13:g:ieYAAMXQeW5TYuue
This would be the unit to do the above?
In this website for older locos
http://www.maerklin-samm...iven/03316/03316_mlb.htm
scroll down to the section "Digitaler Umbausatz Hochleistungsantrieb (HLA) DCM" for conversion.
They say the "Digitaler HLA-Motor-Umrüstsatz" article #60941 shall be the correct one.
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18 February 2020 22:27:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Norton1972
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marklin-HO-60941-Digital-High-Efficiency-Locomotive-Motor-Conversion-from-60760/191399349779?epid=9003303178&hash=item2c904a4e13:g:ieYAAMXQeW5TYuue
This would be the unit to do the above?
Better get the whole kit 60760 that also includes a decoder. The cited offer just contains the motor conversion parts.
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19 February 2020 01:35:06(UTC)
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OK - I ordered this one: I'll be back on how to let my MS2 know that it is there!
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ESU has listed their programming CV's with V 5.0 loksound/lokpilot decoders wheres locos had been converted with ESU magnets (for all types of Märklin motors, this didn't happen with Version 4.0 decoders, it could be the new programming Cv's for this option may be more useful to control these conversions with a better running characteristic result. (?)
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