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Offline Kristaki  
#1 Posted : 16 October 2025 14:07:17(UTC)
Kristaki

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Hello i have the locomotive 37467 and finally i changed my ecos esu for marklin console the simple one.

i installed the 37467 which worked first then i noticed no lights and only go ahead i cant go back or options none... then i did her a reinitialise now nothing works only go ahead...

i unplugged all and delete loco and readded but not owrking

its adress 46... how can i have since i reinisilised it haev the decoder working properly with this loco and it functions..?

i changed 46 to 47 before because i had already a 46 rec460 so then i changed the other loco from 46 to 39 and tried wit this 37467 with adress 46 but NO result i put her working and goes super fast and only the button stop respond..

how to put back properly this locomotive anyone has some tips ty

Best Regards

Christian
Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 16 October 2025 16:31:47(UTC)
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First of all, which Marklin controller do you have. "Simple one" is not a model number.
Offline Kristaki  
#3 Posted : 16 October 2025 16:39:31(UTC)
Kristaki

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https://swissbahn.ch/aus...e-lok-4001883374673.html

This model of locomotive and is a mfx tells in box
Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 16 October 2025 17:05:18(UTC)
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And if you read the previous comments you would know that an mfx decoder is read automatically by most of Marklin current controllers though I am not sure if "simple one" is a current controller model. Also, a current Marklin controller will give priority to the mfx protocol for controlling the loco and ignore the others. Once again, do some reading.
Offline marklinist5999  
#5 Posted : 16 October 2025 17:22:09(UTC)
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Is your Marklin controller a MS2 Kristaki?
Offline Kristaki  
#6 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:05:50(UTC)
Kristaki

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is a mfx on the box but the control station dont detect the mfx which is adress also 46 fabric told in manual... its telling mm2 on the control station is why is confusing she works now but not like others if u click a button its not respondig or u cant slow it down ... in any case i tried to look in the dtabase but is not there . i ahve 2 otehrs models they got fine installed from database..

i do read rhfil but this loco is acting very weird... on the box mister marklinist5999 which replied to me also is telling mfx and not ms2




Offline rhfil  
#7 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:30:34(UTC)
rhfil

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What model Marklin controller do you have? The mfx address is created when the controller searches through assigned mfx addresses and assigns an unused one to the loco. It then waits for the human controller to complete the contact. You are failing in your role.
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Offline mike c  
#8 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:42:00(UTC)
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Christian,

from the behaviour described, it sounds like an old Maerklin analog locomotive being run on a digital layout. The analog models would not respond to controls and would take off at top speed and the only way to stop them was to press the stop button. Some of the early models (1990s) had lights which only functioned via the decoder (function on/off).

Can you open the locomotive and post a photo of the chassis with the PC board? It would help us identify the nature of the model.
A new 37467 would have a mfx decoder similar to the 37460 or 37464.
Can you also post a photo of your controller or it's box as identifying that would help us better evaluate the issue.

Take a track section made up of 2-3 straight sections and connect to your Mobile Station.
Plug Track box into AC (wall)
Press "Stop"
Place locomotive on track
Press "Stop" again
Allow MS to scan for locomotive (Should check mfx, dcc and then MM) (OEM order)

If locomotive simply starts moving, then it is either analog or the decoder is stuck in analog mode.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline Kristaki  
#9 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:42:07(UTC)
Kristaki

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its the marklin 29000 u mean this with controler hte control station?
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Offline Kristaki  
#10 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:45:29(UTC)
Kristaki

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Hello Mike

yes then u might be right can be analog or old system.. but when i open it is with electronic... i bought it a good 4 years ago.... is brand new also yes when i put it on track i undo stop even i dont add it she goes but just before this message she worked but dont respond properly ok i will take some pictures

in a store she seems to ahve worked but here no way lol was on a bigger marklin station in store...

let me go take pictures
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Offline Kristaki  
#11 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:50:25(UTC)
Kristaki

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image1 (2).jpegimage0 (4).jpegimage3.jpegimage2 (1).jpeg

these pictures of the loc an manual

sounds works lights but seems to work half:(
Offline mike c  
#12 Posted : 16 October 2025 18:53:43(UTC)
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A few more questions to gain more information:

1) Do you have an analog (classic) transformer (66471 or earlier)? to test the model in analog? If yes, connect a few track sections and place the locomotive on the track and run it for 5-10 seconds
Put the locomotive back on the digital layout (alone) and let the controller detect it.

2) If no, do you have a 9V battery and can you connect one wire to the slider and the other to one of the wheels
Let the battery power the locomotive for 5-10 seconds and then remove wires from locomotive

Place locomotive back on track and allow the controller to detect it again.

As you just bought the controller, perhaps your dealer could help you. Can you bring the locomotive and your controller to the shop?
The closest Maerklin dealer (specialist) is probably Anton Furger in Visp
Sion has "Au modelisme" and "Hobby Centre".

Please post the photos requested so that I can better address your particular situation rather than generalities.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline Kristaki  
#13 Posted : 16 October 2025 19:01:24(UTC)
Kristaki

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oh yes i have lot of old tracks lol i just opened the box after 40 years of not use... i will test or try what u did i must look to reconnect is long years not used lol but i was a good one in past when i was a kid with analogic and digital right now a noob:(


yes i have sent pics above and yes i will see the guy of the store wednesday and i haver the marklin 29000 package i bought... i had an ecos esu bought 5 years ago also issues i took decision to sell it too complciated to start in digital... better to start from 29000 has a noob...:)
but u so kind of u replys is appreciated guyz
Offline mike c  
#14 Posted : 16 October 2025 19:17:36(UTC)
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Looking at the photos, the details are pretty similar to the 37462 that I have here. My decoder has a green PC board, but the details are the same.
Based on that information, my assessment is that your model is fully OEM and corresponds to what I would expect from a factory model.

The 29000 Set contained a 60657 controller (Mobile Station 2+).

I am going to ask you to check your MS2 library. Click "Shift" and then scroll using the dial.
See if you have a registry for MM46 or 460 105-0 SBB. If yes, select that one and then click on Shift and then "Wrench" and then scroll down to "Remove Loco"

Then allow the MS2 to detect the locomotive again.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline mike c  
#15 Posted : 16 October 2025 19:19:53(UTC)
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Do you have other locomotives? Are they working with the MS2?

If other locomotives work, then the problem is more likely with the loco than with the MS2 or setup.

Regards

MC
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Offline Kristaki  
#16 Posted : 16 October 2025 19:23:56(UTC)
Kristaki

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oh yes i have the rb103 and another re 460 jubilee digital both got detected by database i found them with the box number but i will fast eat and look what u said on the control to find this in the locomotive database correct? and hwat means wrench in engish?

i let u know later i will do this then u ask me if i understand good to redetect it automatically correct
Offline Kristaki  
#17 Posted : 16 October 2025 20:14:06(UTC)
Kristaki

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image0 (5).jpegi took a picture of the otehr 2 locs i have with this one 37467 i told you i will go now to see to add the one u tell me and rmeove it and try to readd it has u so gently explained me

the other 2 didnt gave any problem i took the numbers u se eon box and aparently worked nice:) now this 37467 is not in the database dont ask me why lol:(

i go test i tell u soon if went good
Offline Kristaki  
#18 Posted : 16 October 2025 20:22:13(UTC)
Kristaki

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dear mike i looked but i find no infos on the search u tol dme to find in the database library of locomotives....

i ahve the 29000 set has mfx mm2 and dcc search just for info


the 29000 controle station i bought from the store maybe is not fully update... by the way i saw in google that it has 1000 of htem in the list but i see only a 90 or 100 max 200... maybe is why?
Offline rhfil  
#19 Posted : 16 October 2025 21:44:27(UTC)
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29000 is not the controller number but the starter set number. The set includes a MS2 controller, Marklin number 60657, and an instructional manual. You might want to read it.
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Offline mike c  
#20 Posted : 16 October 2025 22:50:00(UTC)
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The 29000 should be updated to include the models you have. When I got my 29000, it was to supplement/replace the older gray MS2 that I had.
I was not able to update the original one, as I don't have a Central Station and there is no local dealer who could assist.

I opted for the newer one to be able to access up to 32 functions for most models.

@Kristaki Wrench is the red tool symbol next to the white locomotive on the bottom right button

Regards

Mike C

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Offline rhfil  
#21 Posted : 16 October 2025 23:00:03(UTC)
rhfil

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The current software for the MS2 is 5.3. Not that you really need it for the older locomotives you have. I learned recently that if it is a pre-mfx Marklikn locomotive it uses MM and not DCC so none of the ones you have should recognize the DCC protocol. Only the most recent Marklin locomotives seem to recognize the DCC protocol. There is a way to turn off the mfx protocol in the MS2. Here is one of the tutorials from what I consider to being the best source for all Marklkin information:
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