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Offline 1borna  
#51 Posted : 18 February 2023 17:47:09(UTC)
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This morning the transformer was loaded and went back to the factory for testing
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Offline 1borna  
#52 Posted : 19 February 2023 19:31:26(UTC)
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Bojan Dremelj filmed everything from the neighboring mountain
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He also shot a film

The pictures were also taken by Jurij Kozar
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Offline bph  
#53 Posted : 20 February 2023 19:01:12(UTC)
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Thank you for posting this and keeping us updated.
Quite an impressive salvage operation, in a tight space.Cool

Originally Posted by: 1borna Go to Quoted Post
It must go on a special wagon for that purpose, the roads in Zidan Most and the surrounding area are narrow and winding, so transportation by special road vehicle is not possible.
In Norway, they sometimes transport transformers on roads and ships, due to remote locations. (and accidents have also happened, but it was scraped on site)
But they have managed to transport them on surprisingly narrow and curvy roads.


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Offline 1borna  
#54 Posted : 20 February 2023 19:46:40(UTC)
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Thank you!
There were several videographers at the scene, some of whom I know personally, so more photos were found
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There will be a lot more pictures in the next few days if I'm not boring?
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Offline bph  
#55 Posted : 20 February 2023 23:02:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 1borna Go to Quoted Post
Thank you!
There were several videographers at the scene, some of whom I know personally, so more photos were found
There will be a lot more pictures in the next few days if I'm not boring?


Absolutely not boring ;), appreciate your posts.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#56 Posted : 21 February 2023 00:04:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 1borna Go to Quoted Post
Thank you!
There were several videographers at the scene, some of whom I know personally, so more photos were found
There will be a lot more pictures in the next few days if I'm not boring?


Absolutely not boring ;), appreciate your posts.


+1 +1 +1 ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

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Offline 1borna  
#57 Posted : 21 February 2023 08:15:18(UTC)
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#58 Posted : 21 February 2023 19:48:38(UTC)
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Not sure I would want to be in there with the load still hanging on the crane ... Scared Scared Scared Crying

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Offline 1borna  
#59 Posted : 21 February 2023 20:05:38(UTC)
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It is a trained team that has been doing this several times a year for decades.
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Later, that part of the wagon was raised hydraulically
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Offline marklinist5999  
#60 Posted : 21 February 2023 20:51:20(UTC)
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Had there been an extra sidig long enough for 4 Goliath cranes, could they have lifted the wreckage and trafo?
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Offline 1borna  
#61 Posted : 21 February 2023 20:57:12(UTC)
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The "smaller" ones that came first were used for removal
of an overturned wagon, 2 of them could also lift the transformer, but with a lot of risk, so it was decided to bring the biggest one (the transport of the disassembled one required 30 tow trucks!) After all, the smaller ones were used to assemble the biggest one, these days there will be work again to disassemble and transport everything.
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Offline bph  
#62 Posted : 21 February 2023 23:31:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Had there been an extra sidig long enough for 4 Goliath cranes, could they have lifted the wreckage and trafo?


that depends on how close they could get, the Goliath can "only" lift approx 45/32 metric tons at the maximum extension of the crane boom(16,4/19.5m). Crane's maximum capacity is often at very close distances (and often not very usable). On the Goliath its 7,5m
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Offline 1borna  
#63 Posted : 27 February 2023 20:16:26(UTC)
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The train with the transformer on its way to the factory was filmed in Ljubljana
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On the second day in Zidani most, the restoration of the contact network was immediately started
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Soon, regular traffic was taking place on all tracks
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It took two days to disassemble the largest crane and transport everything
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In some moments it was very tight
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A total of 30 large trucks were needed to transport everything
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That would be the end of this long story...
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Offline DB Fan  
#64 Posted : 28 February 2023 01:56:01(UTC)
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Thank you for all the pictures and comments on this accident.

Robert
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Offline 1borna  
#65 Posted : 01 April 2023 19:26:38(UTC)
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Messrs. Ponikvar and Dremelj have published a commendable pdf about everything that happened and resolved regarding the overturning of the wagon with transformer in the Zidan most- link
There is a lot of information and pictures about the station itself, special wagons and cranes! (The text is in Slovenian, but pictures and technical data do not need translation)
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Offline LeoArietis  
#66 Posted : 06 August 2023 21:50:47(UTC)
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Thanks for all the pictures and films.
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline 1borna  
#67 Posted : 13 October 2025 19:23:47(UTC)
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#68 Posted : 14 October 2025 01:17:02(UTC)
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Hello,
Thank you, interesting views.
09:40 It is amazing how the river coming in from the left shows there may have been rains (or dredging) upstram bringing lots of mud particles into the clear waters of the main river.
Just before that the video showed an SŽ series 363 class of 3 kV DC from 1975 on a freight train, which is a similar design to the SNCF Class CC 6500 and NS Class 1600.
I think Märklin did models of these, and wonder if they did the Slovenian livery as well?

Kimball
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