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Online patnaik  
#1 Posted : 15 September 2025 01:53:44(UTC)
patnaik

United States   
Joined: 22/08/2020(UTC)
Posts: 46
Location: Maryland, Silver Spring
I have been adding sound to my Marklin loks with Loksound 5 decoders. These loks all have the 5 pole permanent magnet motor. I set the motor type to Marklin 5* High Performance motor with the Lokprogrammer. For most of the loks this works well, but for a few I observe jerking as the lok comes to a halt, and some hunting when the speed is changed. I make sure there is no binding in the drive mechanism, and the loks run perfectly before making the conversion.

I have tried the auto-tune procedure (CV54=0) but that makes it worse. Fiddling about with the many parameters is not really helping. Can anyone suggest a step-by-step procedure to tune these motors? Thanks!

Gopal
Offline JohnjeanB  
#2 Posted : 15 September 2025 12:19:51(UTC)
JohnjeanB

France   
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,630
Location: Paris, France
Hi Gopal
I use mostly Märklin mSD3 decoders but once I made an exception for an ESU LokSoundDecoder 5 Mini (for space reasons) and it was hell tuning with 500 CVs
I ended up not using the loco and now NEVER would I use these ESU decoders again
Sorry, it is not helping but what a difference with mSD3 when used with a CS3!! Very user friendly, can program them without any additional tool (LokProgrammer) the seft-adjusting procedure works really well.

Back to your problem
The manual is here file:///C:/Users/brucy/D...ual_Edition-15_eBook.pdf
If you look at page 70, you will find a paragraph and a table on how to set the motor-related parameters. ESU mentions that jerking at low speed is when the load compensation parameter needs adjusting.
Here is an interesting paragraph in the manual

Firstly, check if the irregular performance is due to any mechanical
faults. Bent driving rods are one common cause. When you turn
off load compensation (set CV 49 Bit 0 to 0) and the problem
persists then it is likely there is a mechanical fault.


Cheers
Jean
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Offline Kiko  
#3 Posted : 15 September 2025 21:28:44(UTC)
Kiko

Canada   
Joined: 13/02/2017(UTC)
Posts: 166
Location: Ottawa, ON
Hello Gopal,

I must disagree with Jean (sorry Jean). I have converted about 15 older Marklin locos that have the five pole motors with ESU LokSound 5 decoders. These are some of the best running locos on my layout. Furthermore, the sound from LokSound 5 decoders is much better than what comes from Marklin. (Note: I have many Marklin MFX+ locos, so comparisons are "real world").

In order to program LokSound 5 decoders, you will do yourself a big favor if you use a LokProgrammer. Using CVs and programming "bits" is not the way to handle sophisticated decoders.

The ESU web site has hundreds of projects for various locos. It's easy to choose a few as starting points and customize to your liking. These projects already have the motor setups and are "good to go". I, however, always do the BEMF autuo-tune procedure because each motor differs slightly from the next and the auto-tune procedure does a wonderful job in tweeking the right CVs.

I hope this helps. Let me know what loco you're having problems with -- I might be able to help.

Cheers,
Andry

Andry
// Marklin HO K track; ECoS; TrainController Gold; Marklin & ESU decoders; Arduino controlled Switches, Semaphores & Accessories (DCC); Win 11 //
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