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Offline einotuominen  
#1 Posted : 14 August 2025 06:18:19(UTC)
einotuominen

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Hi guys, it's been a while!

I got the Märklin Mikado New York Central (37970) and was wondering is there a trick for the front NEM pocket? It is positioned too high and I'd like to put a standard short coupler to it. I don't know what standard it conforms to, but it's clearly at a wrong height for normal Märklin operation.

Bought this second hand in original box, but the manual was missing.

Best regards,

-Eino
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Offline dickinsonj  
#2 Posted : 15 August 2025 01:00:20(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Hello Eino, Is that locomotive a Marklin/BLI cooperation item?

Sorry, but I can't think of a fix for that height problem other than something custom printed for that.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline einotuominen  
#3 Posted : 15 August 2025 15:57:12(UTC)
einotuominen

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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post
Hello Eino, Is that locomotive a Marklin/BLI cooperation item?

Sorry, but I can't think of a fix for that height problem other than something custom printed for that.


Hi,

No I don’t think so. It’s this model https://www.maerklin.de/...ts/details/article/37970

But even Märklin site does not provide the manual.

I sort of refuse to believe that they would have produced a model where the coupler at the other end is not suitable for coupling…

-Eino
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#4 Posted : 15 August 2025 21:12:18(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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Mikado13coupler.png

Source: www.maerklin.de/service/...lnummer=37970&lang=2

Besides the height issue, would the coupler 7203 fit into the pocket #13 - see snapshot?
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Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 16 August 2025 00:15:45(UTC)
steventrain

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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post


Besides the height issue, would the coupler 7203 fit into the pocket #13 - see snapshot?


If coupler 7203 fit but what about pull/push with rolling stock on radius curved?

Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline cintrans  
#6 Posted : 16 August 2025 01:14:57(UTC)
cintrans

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Obviously not the same lok, but these are the front coupling options on the Big Boy, a normal short coupler does not seem to be an option.
Even the simple hook has restricted use....

Regards
Jean-Pierre

hook big boy.jpg
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Offline dickinsonj  
#7 Posted : 16 August 2025 01:29:33(UTC)
dickinsonj

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I think Jean-Pierre has the answer. It was probably never meant to be a functional coupler, only decorative. So there was no need to position it at a usable height. The prototype would have seldom used the front coupler anyway.

It is really strange that there is no manual available, since they are posted for a lot older locomotives.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline cintrans  
#8 Posted : 16 August 2025 02:06:12(UTC)
cintrans

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mikado.jpg

The Mikado was brought out under a range of numbers, there is a manual of #37935 available on the M* site
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#9 Posted : 16 August 2025 09:55:27(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Hi!

I just checked my Mikados. The manual only states how to change the rear coupler but never mentions the front coupler.
All my Mikados include only 2 figures and no extra parts. I guess the front coupler is not meant to be used as a coupler on the model just as many here have mentioned.
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Offline rhfil  
#10 Posted : 16 August 2025 13:44:23(UTC)
rhfil

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With the cow catcher on most American steam locomotives, was pushing even a consideration? The part for the 37935 for the front socket is described as a plug-in-part and not a coupling.
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Offline dickinsonj  
#11 Posted : 16 August 2025 14:13:31(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
With the cow catcher on most American steam locomotives, was pushing even a consideration?


A locomotive like the Mikado could have occasionally used the front couper, but definitely not very often. So it was a small consideration but not something that Märklin bothered to model.

Cow catchers on pilot trucks mostly went away in the late 1800's on American railroads, and I'm sure locomotives with them never coupled anything from the front of the engines.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#12 Posted : 16 August 2025 15:54:09(UTC)
Jimmy Thompson

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I found here, that there is a picture of 2 Mikados as a double header, however, I also think that might be rather rare, as they were powerful in and of themselves...

https://www.american-rails.com/mikado.html#google_vignette

UserPostedImage

"Colorado & Southern 2-8-2's, led by #807, double-head this freight near Boulder, Colorado on September 14, 1957. Author's [Adam Burns] collection."

Just a random "Jimmy Tangent" LOL
Jimmy T
Analogue; M-track; KLVM; Wine Barrels; Primex
Dr Dirt's Rule #1 and
There is a Prototype For Everything
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Offline dickinsonj  
#13 Posted : 16 August 2025 16:37:44(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Good info Jimmy.

So there is some reason to have a coupler on the front of the prototype, even if Märklin didn't provide that option for the model.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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