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Offline km90  
#1 Posted : 13 August 2025 20:24:25(UTC)
km90

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I started on a track plan based on this layout:
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So far I've managed to this. However, I'm kindly asking the experts (I'm a complete novice) for any ideas and/or help with the following items:
- Any ways to get the inclines between the levels closer to 3% (Right now around 3,5%)
- Get track 2 & 3 connected on the right side so both tracks can be used for trains going through, and not using R1
- To get the slim turnouts at the left part of the station

If it helps, it should be fine to widen the layout a bit.

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Thanks in advance for any help or tips! :)
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#2 Posted : 14 August 2025 10:52:11(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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Nice concept, but quite a challenge for a beginner.

Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
I started on a track plan based on this layout:
I have seen this one before. Is this your own image?

Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
- Any ways to get the inclines between the levels closer to 3% (Right now around 3,5%)
For example, the left curve should reach the rear edge of the layout as shown in the first image (but not replicated in the track plans), which extends the track length and thus reduces the gradient.

Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
- Get track 2 & 3 connected on the right side so both tracks can be used for trains going through, and not using R1
Do you mean that you want to avoid a 24671 turnout?

Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
- To get the slim turnouts at the left part of the station
Well, the 246xx turnouts are not per se bad if used in „proper“ setting, depending on viewing angle and embedding in other C track segments. I understand your concerns. However, I doubt that everything can be conveyed in a „crash course“.

Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
If it helps, it should be fine to widen the layout a bit.
The double-track line exiting the station the left side is winding itself down to a reverse loop, but where is the double-track line exiting the station on the right side going to?


BTW, here is a similar design by a German Stummiforum member - see post #38:

https://www.stummiforum....-Gleis-1.html#msg2822885
Offline km90  
#3 Posted : 14 August 2025 11:50:04(UTC)
km90

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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Nice concept, but quite a challenge for a beginner.
I have seen this one before. Is this your own image?


No, I found it on Stummiforum and used it for inspiration.

Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
For example, the left curve should reach the rear edge of the layout as shown in the first image (but not replicated in the track plans), which extends the track length and thus reduces the gradient.


Yes, I'm aware of that from the original plan. My idea is to have the train coming back in a reverse loop (after been in a shadow station) so trains are coming back the way the came from. :)

Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Do you mean that you want to avoid a 24671 turnout?


Exactly. :)

Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Well, the 246xx turnouts are not per se bad if used in „proper“ setting, depending on viewing angle and embedding in other C track segments. I understand your concerns. However, I doubt that everything can be conveyed in a „crash course“.


I tried a bit and managed to get a few of them replaced, but would naturally be nice to replace all (or almost all) replaced. I'm open to the idea of re-arranging the station entry.

Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
The double-track line exiting the station the left side is winding itself down to a reverse loop, but where is the double-track line exiting the station on the right side going to?


It's also going to a reverse loop (shadow station).


Offline Alsterstreek  
#4 Posted : 14 August 2025 23:50:39(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Do you mean that you want to avoid a 24671 turnout?


Exactly. :)

Why, as would not be not visible in the concealed area? I would rather be concerned with the performance of the foreseen 24771 turnouts on a slope.

Originally Posted by: km90 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Well, the 246xx turnouts are not per se bad if used in „proper“ setting, depending on viewing angle and embedding in other C track segments. I understand your concerns. However, I doubt that everything can be conveyed in a „crash course“.


I tried a bit and managed to get a few of them replaced, but would naturally be nice to replace all (or almost all) replaced. I'm open to the idea of re-arranging the station entry.

Then one of my ideas might serve as food for thought - see post #180: https://www.marklin-user...d-innovations#post614376
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