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rhfil		#1 Posted : 14 March 2025 18:47:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 674 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		Very minor update apparently.
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Goofy		#2 Posted : 14 March 2025 18:51:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		In the Märklins homepage it stand only lokbilder upgrade and nothing else.
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JohnjeanB		#3 Posted : 14 March 2025 21:18:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,550 Location: Paris, France		Hi A french Marklinist reported that this new update created a problem on his booster and he was forced to roll down the booster update (it was detecting short circuits when there was none). I cannot verify myself having no booster with my CS3 so tale it with a grain of salt Cheers Jean
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marklinist5999		#4 Posted : 14 March 2025 21:45:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		Is this the same update as the previous one that reduced the booster output? If so, I didn't update it, so I can backup the CS 3 on the system and USB drive before I do the next bigger update and if it's a problem, I can restore down to the former version?
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rhfil		#5 Posted : 14 March 2025 23:45:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 674 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		Before any update I first do a dated backup to the CS3 and a thumb drive for that very reason.
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dickinsonj		#6 Posted : 15 March 2025 00:08:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Unless it has changed, a backup only saves off your registered decoders and the settings, not the CS3 or booster software. I can be done but it is not that simple. There have been posts here on how to find the files and save them off, so you can back out of the new (buggy) updates. We have some solid digital experts here, so fact check this please.
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rhfil		#7 Posted : 15 March 2025 00:39:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 674 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		I go back to a time when computer memory was measured in k and not g so a bit antiquated. The basic operating system is not accessible but the software must be as suggested by the dramatic change in Events.
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marklinist5999		#8 Posted : 15 March 2025 14:07:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		Ok, thanks guy's! So when the next major update is released, will the booster downgrade (this one) automatically be updated with it, or can I uncheck it before I run it all? I don't want the booster amperage lowered.
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bph		#9 Posted : 15 March 2025 17:50:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,144		Originally Posted by: rhfil Very minor update apparently. Yes it seems like it's only a minor update, with no changes to the cs3 software. The updates sems to be: Some new loc icons new decoder firmware files and CAN devices are updated to 2.6.0 (4). (updates the 60175 booster from 3.85 to 3.94, and the MS2 from 4.15 to 4.28 ) and no change logs.......
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jonas_sthlm		#10 Posted : 16 March 2025 14:39:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 976 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Some things I wish for are, for example, that when updating FW or loading a project, the unit remains in the programming environment and does not start up the entire railway so it stays only with programming track. Should also be possible to add loco images for multi-connected engines.... it's a little easier to find them.
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rhfil		#11 Posted : 16 March 2025 16:21:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 674 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		I just did an update of my MS2 and it seemed to be much more extensive based on the amount of time it took and included a "defrag". So some files must have been deleted and then replaced.
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rbw993		#12 Posted : 16 March 2025 21:41:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,041		I just tried the upgrade and when I updated a booster, type 60174, it started tripping out as if a short circuit existed. A restore didn't fix it as just as Jim suggested above. I didn't update any of the other boosters, I can live with the red dots. Roger
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marklinist5999		#13 Posted : 17 March 2025 03:06:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		Ok Roger. I don't have any booster other than inside the CS 3.
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jonas_sthlm		#14 Posted : 17 March 2025 09:05:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 976 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: rbw993 I just tried the upgrade and when I updated a booster, type 60174, it started tripping out as if a short circuit existed. A restore didn't fix it as just as Jim suggested above. I didn't update any of the other boosters, I can live with the red dots. Roger I also got some strange with older 60174 booster Suddenly, a locomotive with an mSD3 decoder (FW3.3.6.2) short-circuited, and I had to remove it. After a while, I was able to put it back and run it again. Very strange, I got the feeling that it happened after the power came back a few times in a row when updating some with FW. If you update the firmware with a factory project older than 3.3.0.0 on the engine, you should reload the sound project thru mDT3 v3.6.0 which updates settings to a higher version.
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marklinist5999		#15 Posted : 17 March 2025 12:36:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		Does the software booster downgrade affect the internal CS 3 booster?
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jonas_sthlm		#16 Posted : 17 March 2025 16:16:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 976 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Downgrade? its upgraded to 3.94 and the internal CS3 keeps 12.113
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marklinist5999		#17 Posted : 17 March 2025 16:57:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,865 Location: Michigan, Troy		ThANK YOU Jonas! I meant in amperage though.
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bph		#18 Posted : 17 March 2025 18:32:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,144		Some German users also have problems with the latest booster update. https://www.stummiforum.de/t233644f7-Aktuelles-Maerklin-CS-Update-Booster-zerschossen.html one has spoken to Märklin, who advised against updating further boosters. (#15)
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jonas_sthlm		#19 Posted : 17 March 2025 19:09:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 976 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		once again, so difficult
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HBXD		#20 Posted : 17 March 2025 19:54:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/03/2025(UTC) Posts: 2 Location: Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Verines		Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hi A french Marklinist reported that this new update created a problem on his booster and he was forced to roll down the booster update (it was detecting short circuits when there was none). I cannot verify myself having no booster with my CS3 so tale it with a grain of salt Cheers Jean Hello, i may be the french Marklinist. I confirm. I have updated my CS3 to the 2.5.2(6) last saturday. My booster firmware was then updated from 3.85 to 3.94. After that the CS3 the booster indicated a short-circuit (????) I was sure that there was no default on my track. The CS3 was working fine. I have disconnected my booster from the track; the message was still on the screen !!!!!!!, i have then started to understand that there was an error in the uodate. I went back to 2.4.1. After that everything was working fine. So i confirm a bug in the booster update 3.94. I've made a message to Marklin. I have a ticket number from the customer service. So, if you have a booster, take care of that and wait before upgrading to 3.94.
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bph		#21 Posted : 17 March 2025 21:34:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,144		Originally Posted by: HBXD Hello, i may be the french Marklinist. I confirm. I have updated my CS3 to the 2.5.2(6) last saturday. My booster firmware was then updated from 3.85 to 3.94. After that the CS3 the booster indicated a short-circuit (????) I was sure that there was no default on my track. The CS3 was working fine. I have disconnected my booster from the track; the message was still on the screen !!!!!!!, i have then started to understand that there was an error in the uodate. I went back to 2.4.1. After that everything was working fine. So i confirm a bug in the booster update 3.94. I've made a message to Marklin. I have a ticket number from the customer service. So, if you have a booster, take care of that and wait before upgrading to 3.94. Thanks for the report. What is the product number of your booster?
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HBXD		#22 Posted : 17 March 2025 21:51:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/03/2025(UTC) Posts: 2 Location: Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Verines		60175
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jonas_sthlm		#23 Posted : 18 March 2025 10:38:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 976 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Does anyone see if they removed the direct connected update or the let user still download? When they recommend not to update.... or that maybe depends "how many" report on email of the incident and gets case number...
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rbw993		#24 Posted : 18 March 2025 15:03:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,041		It was still there before the weekend. That's when I downloaded it.
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clapcott		#25 Posted : 19 March 2025 07:12:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		FWIW, I believe that if you correctly set the Transformer/PowerSupply setting to match what is actually connected, the appropriate threshold will be used My observation is that a booster driven by a transformer will readily provide > 22V in the early (no/low load) stage of the V/Load curve. With the CS3 having set such a connection as for a Transformer (60052) there is no short message If you set it to a PowerSupply , you will get the message. Noting that there is also a 15V setting - for use with the 6004x when the Switch set as such. As an example the following images show the same booster with a) 60052 defined b) 6004x(not 15v) defined Note that the voltage reading is about the same, BUT the scale and red threshold changes This may not be the only refinement with the new code, For example in my case The product code has been courupted randomly. a 60173 now shows 6017 a 60213 (internal booster) now shows 6021
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jonas_sthlm		#26 Posted : 19 March 2025 08:56:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 976 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Why is the correct article number not entered in the lists? All devices I have get power from each 60061... so where is the most common power supply this days It indicates that they are not keeping up with updating their settings and texts.
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clapcott		#27 Posted : 19 March 2025 20:58:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Why is the correct article number not entered in the lists? The CS3 (GFP3) does not support a Transformer So I can understand the 6005x not being present. Similarly, it is designed for traditional H0 (1) digital operation i.e. 19-22V So the 15v option being missing is understandable. but I agree it is hard to conceive a layout configuration controlled by a CS3 delivering 19V AND a booster set for 15V.
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clapcott		#28 Posted : 19 March 2025 21:04:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm All devices I have get power from each 60061... so where is the most common power supply this days While it may be desirable/recommended that all devices move towards a Powersupply, There is a financial investment in transformers, and if they work (for CS2s and boosters) there is no need to through them away. The 60061 being absent I not new. More importantly, the reason for the grouping is not converyed in the simply list That reason being to set the threshold so that the CS3 (or Booster) "turn track off" before their design cutout. e.g. if you have a 60061 (60VA) but set the definition for 60101(100VA) then as your layout draws current approaching 5Amp, the CS3 will not "politely warn you". Instead the 60061 will cut out completely. This may be acceptable for a booster, but if it is our CS3(CS2) a full reboot is needed.
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bph		#29 Posted : 19 March 2025 23:39:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,144		Originally Posted by: clapcott FWIW, I believe that if you correctly set the Transformer/PowerSupply setting to match what is actually connected, the appropriate threshold will be used My observation is that a booster driven by a transformer will readily provide > 22V in the early (no/low load) stage of the V/Load curve. With the CS3 having set such a connection as for a Transformer (60052) there is no short message If you set it to a PowerSupply , you will get the message. Noting that there is also a 15V setting - for use with the 6004x when the Switch set as such. As an example the following images show the same booster with a) 60052 defined b) 6004x(not 15v) defined Note that the voltage reading is about the same, BUT the scale and red threshold changes This may not be the only refinement with the new code, For example in my case The product code has been courupted randomly. a 60173 now shows 6017 a 60213 (internal booster) now shows 6021 it seems that you are on to something, at least it's worth checking for those who have problems. my update went fine and my booster is (temporarily) powered by a transformer. I have a bit high mains power voltage so when I tested my old 6002 on the booster it gave me a track voltage above 24v idle with red bars. So changed the transformer to a 240v one for the booster, and it also powers the old 6021. so idle track voltage is aroun23v-23,3v hoverer I'm tempted to dig out the 6002 again and see what happens. I have not seen any wrong product codes so far.
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BenP		#30 Posted : 20 March 2025 00:07:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 477 Location: USA		I had a red button for system update yesterday and today it was gone. Forgot to record version so do not know if cs3+ auto updated. Seems to work fine. I do not have a booster (using delta controller as booster, with mixed success). Ben
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MSanches		#31 Posted : 23 March 2025 08:25:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Lisbon		Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hi A french Marklinist reported that this new update created a problem on his booster and he was forced to roll down the booster update (it was detecting short circuits when there was none). I cannot verify myself having no booster with my CS3 so tale it with a grain of salt Cheers Jean Good morning John. It happened exactly the same thing to me. I did the last update 2.5.2 (6), 3 days ago, and whenever I put CS3 on standby, the msg appears that there is an overload situation. There is no "short" as the layout works smoothly. How do I report to Märklin? Thank you very much.
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MSanches		#32 Posted : 23 March 2025 09:32:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Lisbon		Good morning Can anyone tell me how I can revert back to a previous version of software, in CS3+? The latest version 2.5.2 (6) is creating problems (overload situation), and I prefer to go back to the previous one. Thank you very much. Regards. Miguel
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PerR		#33 Posted : 23 March 2025 10:51:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/05/2014(UTC) Posts: 59 Location: Sjælland, Kirke-Hyllinge		Hi MSanches, I will recommend that you are looking at how your power supply is configured for your CS3, and for boosters, if you have any. I have heard that others have fixed the problem by updating the power supply configuration. If you want to go back to the original version 2.5.2(6) software, you should download the software from Märklins homepage, and load it to a USB stick. To install it, I recommend to remove the network connection and remove the CAN bus connection, and insert the USK stick into the CS3. To load the software, hold down the left speedknob and the STOP button, until it starts to do the update. After rebooting, you can connect the network an the CAN bus again, but you should avoid to do updates when the red dot shows up. Best regards Per
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MSanches		#34 Posted : 23 March 2025 10:59:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/06/2011(UTC) Posts: 47 Location: Lisbon		Hi Per, Thank you very much for your prompt reply. I will follow your recommendations. Regards. Miguel
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