I wish they took this time to reconsider whether going with the standard 5 pole HEP for a new tooling item is a wise choice. Especially since they are killing their own HLA model by advertising SDS as the more superior choice.

If you look at the BR 152/182/189 family, they had managed to convert these from formerly HLA layout into SDS with almost unnoticable changes of the basic bottom frame. I'm still at lost why they haven't done this on more models instead of building extravagances like the Gotthardo or other exclusive insider models or the past three-four years.

Not if you are using the most famous logotyp name:MARKLIN
That makes more hungry after theirs products instead by of using HAG.

I think Marklin was coward,by not producing some models that means also a new worktoy to created it...!
It cost money by acting like this.

Goofy

Hi Lutz,
The curious thing is just this;
This will be the first new five pole motor layout released by Marklin since at least 2006. Every other new tooling model from Marklin since then had been of the maintenance free ones (incl 36xxx models)

As you had posted a few months ago;



You had obviously reached the same conclusion I did then in regards of motor choice should Marklin released an Re 6/6. And you also pointed out that it will be easy to align the SDS to Re 4/4 II’s HLA.


Don’t get me wrong, I’m planning to get one of this new Re 6/6 too (I'm a sucker for Swiss models [:p]).
Just pity that this model is just not as good as it could had been.

Mike, it's almost certain that these two models will probably share the same basic motorized axles (& gears) housing.

I was just saying that with what Marklin had done with their Eurosprinters seemed to have indicate that they wish to upgrade more of their lineups to SDS.
AND the fact that new 5-pole layouts had not been built in a number of years seem to indicate that they are not planning to expand this range further and concentrate instead on the hobby range and SDS.

Many Marklin customers had, for the past few years, read these signs pretty clearly. For example, this had led to rumours late last year that Marklin would launch a new BR 41, eventhough technically the 37921 is still a current model.

As can be seen the development of the new BR 189 family had benefited last year's 39342 BR 152, which is a 'related' family model with similar axle designs. In similar ways, I think, Re 620 development could have benefited the existing Re 4/4 II design upgrade.

Who knows what's the real reason M had decided to opt with five pole layout for the new 6/6?
The simplest answer would had been to save cost, I would say, rather than deliberately choosing to get the new Re 6/6 to match the older Re 4/4 II's layout.

But if cost had been the main issue, the opposite argument is that it is possibly cheaper for Marklin to develop retooled SDS axles for a couple of their older models, slap new warm white LEDs (or other minor upgrades) and re-released them as new tooling models - like they had done with the BR 152, 189 & Taurus. Provided the PCBs can be shared by as many new models (don't know why they had so many diff PCB parts), development cost would had been minimal compared to entirely new construction model. As the 'BR 41' rumours had shown, it could help rejuvenate markets for these older models too, which are currently beseiged by the new SDS models and expanding 36xxx range.

But enough with all the long mumbling...
what's been done is done.
Like I said, despite all of that, I am still looking forward for the 37320 and 37321.

Release date:
Even when I first looked at the original product scheduled release, I had concluded that this model will arrive in 2010, as the case was with the last year's BR141/E41. The latest news of postponement prob only move the release date to a more achievable time frame. Sadly of course, the question still hangs in the air on whether new owners might cancel this model.

Plausible explanation...

But then again, Trix did release a new BR 120 with plastic body, 4-axles driven, with 5-pole skewed motor last year (T22603-4) instead of simply converting Marklin's proven metal construction HLA 37536 to DC like they did with T22764.

5 polig skewed motor...?
You mean DC motor placement central of locomotiv with brasswheel...?
Don´t forget that Trix are already doing that with coreless motor typ Faulhaber or and Maxxon motor in the news locomotiv too.
SDS motor has some problems with DCC and circuitboard.
There has been complainment about that too.

Goofy

I don't remember whether these two pictures have already been shown here somewhere (scoll downwards a bit, thank you):

http://www.bahnorama.ch/...nfo.php?products_id=5326

The front view reveals that Marklin is again not willing to properly render the window sides as part of the body structure. Instead there will just be a cheap looking vertical line of paint on the window insert, as in case of the Ae 6/6. Not the kind of quality customers are used to from the competitor models! [:(!]

Looks like they did the same like in the Re4/4 II - but overall I think it was very well done and tidy, as Cem's picture in this thread shows;
https://www.marklin-user...ult.aspx?g=posts&t=13995

The vertical line between the front windows and the side front windows looked to be quite thin in HO, so I guess it is understandable why Marklin want to take the shortcut. I had not even notice it in my Re4/4 II until you pointed this out on the Re6/6. Overall, I don't reckon it's going to be a problem, as personally, I am fully satisfied with the level of details on Re4/4 II.

On the Ae6/6, attention to detail is just not up to the level done in Re4/4 II - well, this is an old tooling after all..
Perhaps a minor makeover for the Ae6/6 is overdue..

With Re6/6 - I'm more concerned with its pulling power; this is the Gotthard locomotive, after all. At the very least, I hope it would do as well as the Re4/4 II and Ae6/6. But I guess we'll see when it comes out..

Hopefully with Led's being introduced into Roco Models, she shine through effect will be a thing of the past.
My Roco Re 6/6's had some alterations to increase the pulling power
a.) added axles with Rubbertyres
b.) modified middle bogy with ground pickup feeder
c.) stretched springs to keep middle bogy firm on tracks at all times.



The VSLF is the only Re 6/6 with advertising and is seen here with the 100 year celebration of this club
VSLF: Verein Schweizer Lok Führer (Swiss Loco Driver club)








regards.,
John