LS150 have a programming button.
Push on it and choice output adress by program LS150.
LS150 have 6 outputs and when you choice first 1 as adress rest are automatic to 6.
If you choice first output as adress 7 the rest are up to 12 automatic.
Finish program LS150 by end push on the programming button.
Go to the CS3 keyboard edit symbol and click on it.
Now go to the configuration items and choice outputs adress when you have make sure first that there are symbols of the turnouts on the screen.
You must click on the turnout symbol first before you can configure adress.
LS150 supports only DCC.
Make sure that your CS3 are seted with DCC protocol too.

Before i did bought CS3 i did used MS2 and Lenz LS150 it worked nice.
It´s good choice to use Märklins m83 and m84 because it is more easy way by let keyboard edit search mfx article and you can use DIP-switches with MM or DCC protocol.
I use DCC with m83 and m84.

Hi ”applor” where ever you are in this World

You have started with some simple questions, so I will try to answer in the same way.


You / Are they switching reliably every time, just the L+R were swapped:

They change each time on the screen, and if the drive works, then also the turnouts will change, and it is only uncertain whether it will be L+R or R+L.


You / Did it happen on all of them or just some:

It's random - there's no pattern - and it's a problem that's been there for the last 3-5 years, but now I want to get to the bottom of the problem.


You / Any updates to your CS3:

My CS3 is with the latest update 2.4.0, but the problem was also before with older updates.


You / And are all turnouts configured the same on CS3:

YES / We only have this one CS3 and when other controls are used are they with Apple products ?


While I'm writing this, I'm suddenly unsure if the programming of the LS150 happened on the previous CS2, and just was copied to CS3 / do you think it could be that !!!


Perhaps it would help with some screenshots from my CS3 that show how the "programming" is done ??

Thank you.

I would be surprised. I suspect that it is more likely the LS150 gets confused with the multiprotocol data on the tracks, so it misses the relevant message.

Another possibility, if you are using only DCC (have you switched mfx and MM off in the cs3?) is that a loco has a noisy motor creating interference on the tracks. I knew someone who had that problem in the early days of Marklin digital, where a motor in one loco was making excessive electrical noise which totally messed up the data stream to all the locos.

But we aren't talking about your layout Goofy.

What´s difference?
You use same system like others.
Or are you telling to us that there is bad quality control by manufacture check components before leaving factory?

Before Corona hit me on 27/12 I have done so:

Now I have gone through all 18 boxes LS150 with their gates (one gate = 3 terminal blocks with yellow = 2 in the middle and blue = 1&3 on both sides (Märklin))

A 24V light bulb was also used because, in addition to the clicks from the switches, I also want to check whether the light bulb lit up for roughly the same time as the red LED on the LS150.

We never changed the pulse time on the 18 boxes, so it should be 0.100 sec ) but the 18 boxes were purchased in 2016 ).

But there were a few that are affected differently and longer than the short factory set time and these are:

#3
• Port 3 Short LED flash, but with constant light in the bulb on both 1 & 3, for a short period
• Port 4 Short LED flashes, but with constant light in the bulb on 1
• Port 5 Long LED flash, no light in the bulb, but the track switch is broken in that direction
• Port 6 Long LED flash that goes out when the track change has changed

#4
• Port 1 Long LED flash, but the track change changes immediately
• Port 3 Long LED flash, but the track changes immediately, but on 1 there was a hum as long as there is light in the bulb. It together on 3 but no hum

#9
• Port 1 short LED – quick change – but constant light in both 1&3
• Port 2 short LED – quick change – but constant light in 1 or 3, with it changing with a new impulse
• Port 3 short LED – quick change – but constant light in 1 or 3, with it changing with a new impulse
• Port 4 short LED – switches fine - but with constant light in the bulb on both 1 & 3
• Port 5 short LED – switches fine - but with constant light in the bulb on both 1 & 3
• Port 6 with several flashes per the wire / track change is a bit sluggish and needs to be inspected


We also work with 2 different drives Märklin 7549 / 75491 the new and MTB TP1, if the impulse is converted to 12V DC voltage via bistable relay with 2 bridges in front to change AC to DC, but there are no problems with any of the ports that provides MTB with an impulse!

Hope this information helps you with the simple advice to avoid switches that from time to time are set opposite to what the CS3 screen shows (now that I've gone through all 18 boxes I'll also note which port gives equal now gives straight in lane change):

• 1. Can the 3 strange boxes be fixed to the factory settings (can I do it myself)
• 2. Are they broken and must 3 new ones be used (I wonder if a cause is known so that this can be avoided)
• 3. Or should I switch to Märklin m 83 60832

I hope of course that someone can help me get a model railway that I can trust

So come in with your wote

No - Sorry I don’t think it is going to happen …..

We are talking about turnout’s …..

Listen !

We one layout with around 250 mtr. track in room around 45 kvm. - We one CS3 - We don’t to try more in a age of 76, because there are not many more shots left …….

No, I haven't, because I've assessed that Baneforum was the best in these kinds of questions, but there weren't many answers!

But if you think it makes sense, then I will do it, but then I will turn the post around, so instead I ask if there are good experiences with the combination CS3 & Lenz LS150....

Sorry but i only have access to a CS3+ .............

Let's say that everything works perfectly - everyone is happy - then one day a train has to go through a turnout - and then the turnout is set opposite the screen - if the turnout had been swich a few time since everyone was happy, I don't know - screen is different.

The normal thing will then be to exchange the two blue wires in the LS150 / test / and then continue....

But the trust is gone, you can't switch - hear a click - and then go and check if it's correct

Maybe there is something in the opening time - it has never changed - so it is 0.1 second.

But right now it's debugging div. magnet articles after a round of Corona ….

Then I want to find the port on the LS150 at all switches that changes a switch straight away.

And then I'm ready for the first misrepresentation, because it must show whether it's the CS3 or the LS150 that

But I feel like "Palle alone in the World" ……..


It's a shame that it's so far from Copenhagen to Herning, but do you have experience with the LS150?

First of all now I been through them all - there are only 18 ……

I am close to buy the same numbers off ports in m 83, but I had talked Ken from Hobbykæden, and asked him for at good price, but even him said that could try again.

So that is now happening - so a start from fresh - and 3 of the LS150 had to be reset ( here I will ask my good friend Aage to come and support me )

Just now 7549 is out and a new 75491 is but in to service.

Regarding the Sporskiftet, I will make a post tonight / don't you call yourself Copenhagen here?

Breacking news ......

Now list had been clear .....

And then I started from box 1 and when carrying on, then 3-4 of the switch had change the setting between screen and reality, so I up against the wall with a flat nose .....

I do think the future is m 60632 !

The faulty LS150 has been worked on!

The 3 faulty ones have been reset, which was successful, but it took several attempts, and they now work like the others.


But changing the pulse time on the ports that work with MTB, we couldn't get it to work.

A user at the Danish Spporskifte has pointed out, that you could also use AC on MTB, so to avoid my prints, the impulse time had to be increased from 0.1 to 2 seconds, but we couldn't figure that out.

First we try if we could change the CV values but we could connect the decoder and then we tried to follow the manual but it was too difficult for us.

Is there any advice on that??

Good news

I wish I could help

Per.

Here is the happy ending:

Well, back to the LS150s

After installing 2x 4 brake modules, I sat downstairs and watched the mess of wiring and then shut down our only AC transformer supplying the 18 LS150 + power to the drives & signals + lights in e.g. signals & lanterns …..

It went through my head - What have I connected incorrectly and thus made a short circuit!

But before I could get up, the power came back on, and after a short period it disappeared again. I then stayed a little longer and watched several outcomes before I had to turn off the power.

My conclusion – overload – so I bought an AC transformer (Art. 60032 with 32 VA) similar to the old one and had the track split into North & South.

The power outages had created 10-15 different "wanderings", both switches that switched incorrectly, but also that gates suddenly jumped from one box to a completely different one.

Before switching to 2, I also measured the power consumption of the first transformer in idle mode, and it was approx. 1.8 amp.

During that period, I also had contact with Erik from the website https://www.jphobby.dk/bane/index.html, so he got the story, and he offered to join and try to solve the problem.

The LS150 is described here: https://www.jphobby.dk/bane/dig-ls150.html

It turned into a lot of emails, where I was given homework, all of which consisted of creating documentation for each port standing up (which I had most of) and review of each port's setup, because the track works with different drives. Magnets such as Märklin Art. 7549/75491 & motor-driven MTB mp1, and thus also different impulse times, where MTB is just under 2 sec. for the movement so it is set to 2.0 sec and Märklin's default was 0.2 sec.

It was also explained to me that an LS box had a memory so that a port had to be changed before the change of the next one started. BUT that the memory didn't wander on to another box, so it made me change the impulse time on the CS3 to 0.22 for the Märklin drive / Viessman magnet signals / brake modules + 2.2 MTB drive.

So in the end I was "released" by Erik, as he thought that it should now be able to work.

However, I have bought another 60032, which is now only connected to the 18 LS150 …..

And since August there hasn't been a single error.

I am convinced that it is overloads that made the errors. Before the big crash, I have also seen prints out of the corner of my eye before, which have suddenly flashed due to of that overload, but I just haven't understood why.

So it is the first x-stra transformer that solved it!

The original AC transformer was the power supply for the LS150s, and thus indirectly supplied power to various drives + lights in lanterns & signals + various overpass barriers, etc., and it never occurred to me that the LED + other things next to it drew so much "power".

So this long journey of suffering for you & me is over, and good thing I stuck with LS's and didn't switch to m83, of which I had bought 3!

And not least that I got good support this summer from Erik - he has a lot to thank for that.


"Snap Snap Snude" ( a danish phrase ) and now that story has ended well …..

So that must be 3 secondat …..