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Originally Posted by: rbw993  According to Wascosa's website the "Tank Car 3000" is not this type of car. It is the Zans type used for mineral oil. There is a Zacens for chemical loading but not in the "Tank Car 3000" livery.
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Roger I did manage to find a photo of a Zacens in the Wascosa blue livery, but it is not a "Tank Car 3000" and they were registered in CZ not in NL. https://interessante-bil...us-tschechien-441734.jpgThe "Tank Car 3000" was an upgraded Euro Tank Car (Zans) with improved buffer beams and other security design features incorporated. Regards Mike C
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan The book has 160 pages, with 25 plans in K and C track. But I wonder if this is really just a reprint of layouts presented in the Marklin Magazine. Yes, the thought of reprints of layouts from the Marklin Magazine occurred to me. Might be paying again for something I've already got..... I've been cheating in that regard. I got hold of some of the Insider container wagons which have the same flatcar as the previous Store loco container wagons but cost half the price. I bought some containers (heaps on Aliexpress, but I got some locally), painted them matt black and glued a made-up version of the logo to the containers. I got the logo fairly close but you can see the difference up close but if anyone didn't know they wouldn't tell the difference. A friend in the MMRC, who before retirement was a printer and has a printer friend, went around to his printer mate's shop and printed my made-up logo as sticky labels on an adhesive sheet. I also have just received from the Lokshop a set of Trix long wheelbase flat wagons with Carlsberg containers. I can either put a made up 40ft / 20ft container on each and run with my Store locos or run with the Carlsberg containers. KM1 are producing some Gauge 1 container wagons (Marklin cancelled their ones) and you buy either pre-labeled containers or blank grey containers for use with the wagons. I've ordered both, so the blank ones will get painted black, for which I will have to get my made-up logo upsized......
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Just a question, does anyone know when will the second insider model be announced?
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Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Just a question, does anyone know when will the second insider model be announced? This is today at 13hour (Paris o'clock)
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Originally Posted by: TGV POS Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Just a question, does anyone know when will the second insider model be announced? This is today at 13hour (Paris o'clock) Elektrolok BR E 71.1 (H0) 39771 Güterwagen-Set (H0) 48825 Many Thanks to Rafael Bonet |
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Very nice! I have a #43031 blue Roco 2 rail version with a 40 jare DB anniversary donnerbuchsen 4 car set with a book in a book style case.
This was nicknamed the fat little girl. My fomer dealer told me. She was from Dusseldorf.
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Totally unrealistic pantograph compared to the prototype in the movie .... 
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How so? Were they black, not red? I'll ask Sommerfeldt. I think they make them for Marklin.
I just relaized the new 72000 couplers aren't current conducting.
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Originally Posted by: shannon Totally unrealistic pantograph compared to the prototype in the movie .... Something you need to live with, its M  Check out the new Swedish Rc6 engine that gets pantograph developed since 1992, I get goosebumps  See the positive, it manages to start following the buffer NEM standard.... |
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 How so? Were they black, not red? I'll ask Sommerfeldt. I think they make them for Marklin.
I just relaized the new 72000 couplers aren't current conducting. Please pay attention to the contact strip of pantograph in the prototype showed in the picture, which is standing on the upper arm of pantograph not attached on the upper arm as Marklin made. 
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The wiper is quite thin. My book shows a very detailed photo. It would be so very delicate in ho scale, and likely break extremely easy. Also the connection points where the pivoting arms connect are not protypical. They are bent loops in the red wire stock going through the wiper mount holes. There is no other way to duplicate them in 1/87. Possiblt made of brass and soldered, but that would also be weak.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 The wiper is quite thin. My book shows a very detailed photo. It would be so very delicate in ho scale, and likely break extremely easy. Also the connection points where the pivoting arms connect are not protypical. They are bent loops in the red wire stock going through the wiper mount holes. There is no other way to duplicate them in 1/87. Possiblt made of brass and soldered, but that would also be weak.[/quote Piko has made the correct prototype for a couple of vintage electric locomotives. Here shows the picture of realistic pantograph in which you can see the moveable pivot and springs stretching to standing the contact strip up.  [   Edited by user 01 June 2022 02:09:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Rather blurry pic. Higher pixels pictures replaced
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Hi, it looks like a nice little model. Not sure what all the fuss is about. I would prefer a pantograph which was at least sturdy enough to allow for pantograph to wire use. There’s nothing worse than a floppy pantograph 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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I like E71 but i wonder if the sounds will be correct?
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Originally Posted by: Goofy I like E71 but i wonder if the sounds will be correct?
Märklin use often standard sound file. why wouldn't they be correct? There are two prototype examples they can record.
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There's plenty of ICE 4's available to record, but they still managed to get its horn to sound like a Cow's fart!
Goofy is correct - look at how many steam locos use the same generic whistle - class 44's, 50's, etc.
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Totally agree.
I have some really beautiful Marklin locos but the generic operating sounds are pretty much all the same, except in just a few rare cases. I had hoped that they would be doing much better than that by now, especially considering the costs of their current models.
If they can't manage to record the actual sounds on their own, other companies already some very good ones out there that they might want to buy.
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The new E71.1 is spot on for my layout year of representation so looks like another e-lok for my shopping list |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan There are two prototype examples they can record. As I understand it there are three locos on display, but no longer operational. Probably no chance to get sound recordings. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Regarding the pantograph fabrication, here is a model made by Roco (model 43816) I think in the 1990s. I purchased this already modified digitally for 3 rail, and I am exceedingly pleased with it. Note that the pantograph appears to mirror the prototype as shown in Post #261.  Anyway I will be ordering the Märklin Insider version 39771 because it has a different running number. I am not concerned if the pantograph is different. Much modification was done in various workshops and for different reasons in real life to make no two engines of the same class identical. It is not worth getting stressed about in my opinion. I just enjoy the models for what they are. Another point about the Roco 43816 model is that it is made of metal and only the cab overlays are plastic. Here is my review of two of this type of small early electric locomotives. Roco and Märklin early electricsKImball |
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The Marklin model used to have a unique buildup with the old type of motor. Now retooled with a can motor cardan shafts like the Roco has. As for sound, we'll have to see.
Marklin doesn't usually say in an item description if the sound is generic or protoypical. However, they do use a 32 bit sound decoder, and often protypical. I have thre of their newer electric Loc's all with diffferent running sound. The 36182 Vectron sounds like one, as does the 39197, but different. It's motor sound increases with speed.
The SBB Re 421 soiunds like one, with the step relay clicks as the speed increases.
Aren't factory decoders locked anyway? That negates any sound file changes.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Aren't factory decoders locked anyway? That negates any sound file changes. Actually, they are "open", and you can change the project as you like on new locomotives. But you must use the designated project from Märklin as a base, and it's currently only possible using mDecoderTool together with CS3/2. and as a side note, Marklin has released an updated sound project for the 37997, with improved running sound etc. The first release for 37997 was 7,32MB and the new one is 13,1MB. So on the recent DSB E 991, I downloaded some sounds from www.toglyde.dk, and included those in my custom project. E.g. replaced the standard Märklin coal shuffle sound with an actual one from the 991. (modified the one from toglyde.dk). at the same time, I often adjust the individual steam sound volumes like unloaded, normal and standing still(Grundrauschen). This is because those parameters are only possible to change during the complete programming of the decoder.
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999
Aren't factory decoders locked anyway? That negates any sound file changes.
As bph notes, recent ones are available. All msd/3 decoder sound projects for produced locos are available on the marklin website for download, on the item catalogue page. When installing the decoder programmer is installed it gives the opportunity to download the whole gamut of production projects from Marklin, Trix and LGB that use msd/3 decoders including all the additional wagons that have sound decoders.
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I am confused - not that this is the first time.  I have programmed mSD/3 decoders starting with Marklin project files, but the last time I tried to access a factory decoder with my mDecoderTool it reported that it was not an upgrade decoder and exited. I did not use it with my CS3, but with a laptop running the mDecoderTool program, does that make a difference? |
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Video of 39771 Insider Model #2 for 2022. Märklin have gone to quite some trouble to stage this video, including an end scene where the real loco moves past the model set in the foreground. It must have been pushed, because I believe it cannot move under catenary power. From the video, I have noted the following detail on the wagon set 48825. The Pwg home station is Karlsruhe, number DB 120 534. The Omm 34 open wagon is numbered DB 826 133 and loaded with coal. The Oppeln Gmrs 30 closed van is lettered DR 223 506 Brit-US-Zone. Closed van München G is lettered DR Zone Fr. nummer 52 438, and has diagonal reinforcing steel section on the lower body side corners. G10 van is lettered DB 113 798, and has diagonal reinforcing steel section on the lower body side corners. This van also has end of train marker recepticals. The above rolling stock data is confirmed in the Märklin Insider News Issue 04.2022, where you will also find interesting information on each wagon and its lettering.Kimball Edited by user 23 September 2022 09:40:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj I am confused - not that this is the first time. I have programmed mSD/3 decoders starting with Marklin project files, but the last time I tried to access a factory decoder with my mDecoderTool it reported that it was not an upgrade decoder and exited. I did not use it with my CS3, but with a laptop running the mDecoderTool program, does that make a difference? Hi Currently, the way to do it is to have the locomotive on the programming track and program it from the mDecoderTool through the CS2/3. note that this is at your own risk and takes a long time, approx 45-50 mins. And you can not use the CS3/2 for other things during the programming. and I would recommend turning off power on the regular track. So far I have reprogramed 10 factory fitted decoders, and no one was bricked. Some decoders requires a firmware update, and some older decoders are only 32MBit, and require you to manually stay below the 32MBit limit as mDecoderTool doesn't recognise these decoders (eg decoder part no 259851).
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has an excellent overview of decoders in this post. Once a network error occurred during programming, and the CS3 automatically restored back the old decoder project. So all I had to do was program it again.
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Originally Posted by: bph
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Currently, the way to do it is to have the locomotive on the programming track and program it from the mDecoderTool through the CS2/3.
Thanks for the info BPH. That was what I thought, but I could not understand why it doesn't work on a PC running the same app but much, much faster through a direct USB connection. But just being able to update the orignal decoders is a huge step forward, and I was not aware that it worked using the CS3.  I just wanted to make sure I understood - making sense is optional. |
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Hadn't picked up on this announcement, looks like the MHI regional assemblies are happening again, with appropriate wagon.
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou NH Eurotrain 2022
36747 Dampflok T12 Fotoanstrich Sound für 234,99 €
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It seems like MHI is coming out with their own version of the S 3/6 Hochhaxige, 39438.
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Marklin fall 2022 new items will be online 15 or 16 September. |
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Originally Posted by: bph It seems like MHI is coming out with their own version of the S 3/6 Hochhaxige, 39438.
Just wanting to ask is there any info on it?
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Marklin fall 2022 new items will be online 15 or 16 September. Normally the 'Surprise Loco' is announced a few days before, as it is also included in the Herbst NI. so maybe the surprise loco this week?
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Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Originally Posted by: bph It seems like MHI is coming out with their own version of the S 3/6 Hochhaxige, 39438.
Just wanting to ask is there any info on it? Sorry no. but likely technical identical to 26360/ 39436.
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The slim double slip is comming to town! Märklin 24720, bauform Ängländer.   |
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Hello,
Do you think there will be an announcement for a special locomotive (new model, not a different livery, I mean)? Or this year it was the 39491?
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto
Hello,
Do you think there will be an announcement for a special locomotive (new model, not a different livery, I mean)? Or this year it was the 39491?
Regards,
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Marklin Magazine 04/2022 pag 59 English Version syas: A Surprise model This fall, Märklin will realise yest another surprise model in H0 gauge. (and continue....) Yes we will have a surprise |
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Originally Posted by: bph The surprise locomotive 2022: 498.104 ČSD Märklin 39498 and Trix 25498 (RRP around 770 euros)  The chassis looks very similar to one of the recent surprise locos with the outside frame on the rear bogie.
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The 39498 is now on Märklin site and the price is 679 euros. |
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto The 39498 is now on Märklin site and the price is 679 euros. Also on the Trix site, 22498, at the same price. here is the Prospect Brochure.  Posterprospekt_39498_DE_EN.pdf (3,035kb) downloaded 62 time(s).
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It's a quite nice locomotive , but what about coaches? Otherwise, it has the same motor as the 39027 Br 02, SNCB class 1, and sncf 241 etc. And it comes with two speakers (28mm). the dynamic smoke generator has a new part number. Märklin Unboxing Video : (german)
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Originally Posted by: bph It's a quite nice locomotive , but what about coaches? Good question. I doubt that there will ever be any appropriate coaches for this loco, at least not from Märklin. |
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