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What is on your wish list for 2022, and what will Märklin offer? As the Märklin 37793 TGV has been released, I certainly would like to see the updated Lyria Euroduplex:  |
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That'd be a nice set! I myself would like Marklin to issue a new br 85.
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I'll predict there will be a Z gauge version of the Museum Br44 at some stage (not necessarily in the NI but possibly the Summer or Herbst NI).
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Hi
Märklin HO fan here.
It would be a good time to announce digital for Z gauge.
On HO scale, the slim double slip switch is way overdue
Probably more locos fitted with pulse smoke generators (already 3 locos)
Also a new MS station with color screen would be great
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Hello.
New steamers wih dynamic smoke:
- British A4 in a blue livery.
- USA ATSF 4000 Class 2-8-2
Other things I like I am sure Märklin will do sooner or later so I will not write about them.
I also think Märklin should do:
Better couplers: Short as Fleischman short couplers and couple and decouple as good as standard Roco couplers.
Everything in the H0 range at exact 1:87, although there could be coaches at 1:100 for those who want.
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto 
Hello.
New steamers wih dynamic smoke:
- British A4 in a blue livery.
- USA ATSF 4000 Class 2-8-2
Biggest problem with doing any british loco is that to get a decent market penetration it will need to be done in 1:76 (OO) scale. While there is a group who model British prototype in H0 it is very niche, and I really wonder if Marklin producing any British loco in H0 is really worth it. There will always be those who will buy it as a Shelf Queen, but it would need rolling stock to go with it and I doubt the quantities and variants would be enough to justify the development effort.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: mbarreto
Hello.
- British A4 in a blue livery.
Biggest problem with doing any british loco is that to get a decent market penetration it will need to be done in 1:76 (OO) scale. While there is a group who model British prototype in H0 it is very niche, and I really wonder if Marklin producing any British loco in H0 is really worth it. There will always be those who will buy it as a Shelf Queen, but it would need rolling stock to go with it and I doubt the quantities and variants would be enough to justify the development effort. If Marklin were to produce a Brish model it would probably have to be a "famous" model that also would have an international appeal. eg the LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman in H0 with coaches. And it celebrates 100 years in 2023. The A3 4472 toured in USA, Canada and Australia, so it should appeal to a wider group. :)
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Originally Posted by: bph Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: mbarreto
Hello.
- British A4 in a blue livery.
Biggest problem with doing any british loco is that to get a decent market penetration it will need to be done in 1:76 (OO) scale. While there is a group who model British prototype in H0 it is very niche, and I really wonder if Marklin producing any British loco in H0 is really worth it. There will always be those who will buy it as a Shelf Queen, but it would need rolling stock to go with it and I doubt the quantities and variants would be enough to justify the development effort. If Marklin were to produce a Brish model it would probably have to be a "famous" model that also would have an international appeal. eg the LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman in H0 with coaches. And it celebrates 100 years in 2023. The A3 4472 toured in USA, Canada and Australia, so it should appeal to a wider group. :) yes, i would agree that would be the most likely British steam loco for them to do. However on thinking about it, the A4 Mallard family would also be a candidate, as there is the Dominion of Canada in a Canadian museum, the Dwight D, Eisenhower in a US museum, the Union of South Africa (not sure where that one is), Sir Nigel Gresley (named after the designer of the class), Bittern and Mallard itself. All these locos were brought together at the National Railway Museum for 75 years of the breaking of the steam loco world speed record. i feel that this is a bit of a cheat as the speed was recorded going downhill, but apparently that was enough to take it from the Germans. So with the number of these locos in museums around the world the A4 may be a candidate. I could also see an A4 and Br05 issued as a pair to celebrate an anniversary of steam speed records.
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Hallo Dreileiter Community,
Interesting suggestions indeed but myself I would like to see K.P.E.V. Glaskasten locomotive or better set. Or Gölsdorf Class 310 in ( rare ) K.P.E.V. Livery in metal with smoke.
And finally introduction of DIGITAL Z Mini Club!
Respectfully,
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kiwiAlan wrote:However on thinking about it, the A4 Mallard family would also be a candidate, as there is the Dominion of Canada in a Canadian museum, the Dwight D, Eisenhower in a US museum, the Union of South Africa (not sure where that one is), Sir Nigel Gresley (named after the designer of the class), Bittern and Mallard itself. All these locos were brought together at the National Railway Museum for 75 years of the breaking of the steam loco world speed record. i feel that this is a bit of a cheat as the speed was recorded going downhill, but apparently that was enough to take it from the I could also see an A4 and Br05 issued as a pair to celebrate an anniversary of steam speed records. I too have always thought that Mallard’s reputed speed record was a cheat especially considering that it broke during the run. Similarly giving the glory only to Gresley ignores the contribution O V S Bulleid made to the A4 design when he was Gresley’s assistant. Especially once rebuilt, Bulleid’s Southern Railway designs were up there amongst the best which is perhaps why so many made it into preservation. According to former footplate men these unofficially (and unauthorised) reached some pretty phenomenal speeds for steamers. Edited by moderator 12 November 2021 22:24:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan
Biggest problem with doing any british loco is that to get a decent market penetration it will need to be done in 1:76 (OO) scale.
A very simple solution ........make it in Z. 
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Any idea when the 1st insider model for 2022 will be announced?
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Originally Posted by: 2fingers Any idea when the 1st insider model for 2022 will be announced? It is normally announced at the Cologne show, which would be about now, so I would expect an announcement any day now, certainly by the end of the month.
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Originally Posted by: 2fingers Any idea when the 1st insider model for 2022 will be announced? If you got the mail from Märklin you'd know. 17/11. |
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I would like a proper feed back system for block control using sensors the same as Uhlenbrock's Lissy system so that we can get away from the outdated s88 and having to wire up braking sections.
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hoping they will not forget a reissue of tin plate coaches, and an old loco of the sixties with mfx inside... (for example 3012, 3013, 3014, 3023, 3024 ... to add a "0" behind the number ) Best Regards Joël |
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Originally Posted by: TrainIride hoping they will not forget a reissue of tin plate coaches, and an old loco of the sixties with mfx inside... (for example 3012, 3013, 3014, 3023, 3024 ... to add a "0" behind the number ) Best Regards Joël O definitely😆🙏🙏 I’ve asked about the question of a HO British loco on Instagram, This would be greatly received from German Marklin fans as there is very much an interest in British steam. I don’t think there. That bothered about stock. But the Br mark one coaches would also sell well in the Harry Potter train which would also be a reason for producing a GWR loco as well as The Flying Scotsman. Arguably the worlds most famous 👍 Ps I now there was a Marklin Harry Potter train. But it was not HO and was in fact a Hornby model not a Marklin which would look fantastic as a proper HO model with dynamic smoke. British 00 looks odd in my opinion. As I love British steam but keep being disappointed when I see the 00 model of it in my opinion (sorry) I would like to see new tooling of a NS or SNCB diesel pleasesss |
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Wouldn’t mind a wittfeld akkutreibwagen and a pack of alusuisse hoppercars from era 3
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Would like to see an extension set for the PRR coaches 43616.
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Originally Posted by: DasBert33 https://www.trix.de/de/produkte/produkt-informationen/sondereditionen/clubmodelle
Just now that I stopped my insider subscription, they bring an Era2 model that I could be interested in. Typical...
I do not see where this is a problem. Not all Insider members will order this model. Therefore you can ask if an Insider member is willing to order it for you. A.
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It is a bit strange the promotional paper presents the Insider as a Trix model and just shows Märklin product number.
The video doesn't show it that way.
Is it something changing?
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto
It is a bit strange the promotional paper presents the Insider as a Trix model and just shows Märklin product number.
The video doesn't show it that way.
Is it something changing?
You’re asking yourself too many questions  https://www.maerklin.de/...62_Clubmodelle_de_en.pdfA.
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Ah, ok! Much better now! |
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I am intrigued, the page for the coach set says the lighting in the coaches can have the brightness varied - but there is no mention of a decoder in the coaches, so how is this done? Also the tail lights apparently go out when the train is reversed, and has a confusing description that suggests white lights are shown when reversing.  I'm also intrigued that the Marklin loco gets an mfx+ decoder, but the Trix one gets only an mfx decoder, but is no cheaper. Still the Z gauge boys will be rejoicing in getting a V320.
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I don't often purchase the club models (and newer, non-club items) due to their cost... but THIS one may be an exception ;)
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Probably the tail car has a decoder or the locomotive can send power and command to the lights of the coaches. I think the first option is the one choosen. Other options like "understand" the rotation direction of the coaches wheels doesn't seem to me as choosen. What is a bit out of the usual is, in case the tail car has a decoder, the decoder doesn't have sound. Personally I don't like coaches with audio so it is a good option. When ESU has lights for coaches with integrated decoders at almost the same price Märklin has the lights for coaches without the decoders, I think the best choice was to have in each coach a light kit with decoder. It would allow for control the coaches lights independently, or not, depending on each one's preferences. It would waste a bit more energy, though. This said, if Märklin option was the function decoder only in the tail car, it was a green decision in line with COP. |
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And now I'm thinking (watch out): could a re-issue/reproduction SK 800 with corresponding tinplate coaches be following in the near future?
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I suppose that's possible too. However, an SK800 has not been tooled before with a can motor drive, so the design will be costlier. It's never even had the permanent magnet motor block.
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Probably the tail car has a decoder or the locomotive can send power and command to the lights of the coaches. I think the first option is the one choosen. Other options like "understand" the rotation direction of the coaches wheels doesn't seem to me as choosen. What is a bit out of the usual is, in case the tail car has a decoder, the decoder doesn't have sound. Personally I don't like coaches with audio so it is a good option. When ESU has lights for coaches with integrated decoders at almost the same price Märklin has the lights for coaches without the decoders, I think the best choice was to have in each coach a light kit with decoder. It would allow for control the coaches lights independently, or not, depending on each one's preferences. It would waste a bit more energy, though. This said, if Märklin option was the function decoder only in the tail car, it was a green decision in line with COP. I don't believe there is a decoder at all. If there was a decoder then there would be either an 'fx' or 'mfx' symbol, but neither symbol is listed for them. On that basis i suspect the brightness adjustment is done manually in an analogue manner, using a potentiometer somewhere. But this does seem to be a strange way of doing it.
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I thought in that, but it doesn't do the tail light change.
I agree with your argument about the fx or mfx symbol.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan
I don't believe there is a decoder at all. If there was a decoder then there would be either an 'fx' or 'mfx' symbol, but neither symbol is listed for them.
On that basis i suspect the brightness adjustment is done manually in an analogue manner, using a potentiometer somewhere. But this does seem to be a strange way of doing it.
It's a bit strange yes, personally I would have preferred that they had the option to be dimmed from the locomotive decoder. if I understand it correctly, each coach can be dimmed individually It's a very tempting model...... :)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto
I thought in that, but it doesn't do the tail light change.
I agree with your argument about the fx or mfx symbol.
No need for a decoder to change the tail light. It’s can be done by a switch that depends on the wheel rotation. Like the control car 43411 for instance.
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The locomotive is out of my budget (and railroad but I love it!), but wow are those cars overpriced.... |
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Originally Posted by: Gregor Would like to see an extension set for the PRR coaches 43616.
Gregor Nice idea,but i have a better one,an extension set for 43617 set with some more coaches and the very nice tank car it is running after the locomotives.
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Originally Posted by: robertsandboge Originally Posted by: mbarreto
I thought in that, but it doesn't do the tail light change.
I agree with your argument about the fx or mfx symbol.
No need for a decoder to change the tail light. It’s can be done by a switch that depends on the wheel rotation. Like the control car 43411 for instance. Maybe it is just a similar device to 43411 + a variable resistor... |
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The BR 06 is actually well priced against the Brawa model. In addition to it being a new mold, versus the 20 year old Brawa version, there are additional functions such as the smoke unit and dynamic smoke that actually make it very well priced.
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR The locomotive is out of my budget (and railroad but I love it!), but wow are those cars overpriced.... Not cheap, but having regulated lighting and passengers already installed eases the burden a lot.  |
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I think Marklin is 10 years too late with the BR06. If I recall correctly it topped the poll 10 or so years ago when Marklin asked Insiders what models they wanted. The poll generated a bit of discussion on the forum.
I went and got a Brawa red BR06. Somehow (don't know to this day what I did, but found it in the box in this state) I managed to bend some of the driving rods on one side of the loco, pretty much unrepairable. I got a black Brawa BR06 without sound, swapped the chassis over and fitted a Loksound. That means I could put the black body back on it and run in that mode should I ever want to. I won't be buying the Marklin BR06 as a result even though it looks to be a nice loco. Likewise for the coaches.
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We're all different!
The release of the 06 001 is really good. My husband really likes the design so I've got an OK to order it.. The dynamic smoke generator looks awesome. The proces are really rotating but look at other items. Even Lego har raised their prices quite a lot.
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Nice David! Glad I'm not alone here! Mine doesn't share much interest, but hasn't restricted me from epanding my layout or collection. He even made me custom clear plastic bins for trains from medical supply device cabinets, cut to shelf length. Most are a bit wider than ho scale cars, so I can store them ready to run, rathere than in their factory boxes. I don't have a shadow storage yard.
With Holidays close, and gift's to buy for grandchildren, I recently got a "no" on a 39961 br 95, which I wanted because I don't have a large tank steamer, an ICE4, (I have a 3, and a Fleischmann analog d/c ICE 1 Amtrak), and the 29187 br 218 Cottbus/Piko. I do have a large collection, and still have some items backordered and pre ordered. A set of Roco container wagons, and tankers, and a Marklin 39190 SBB Vectron. I also placed a requst for a cancellation on a 43815 Airport Express, as the alottment of this MHI item has been allocated.
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I really like the 06 and the wagons with people and lighting are a plus for me. A maybe from me. Something to ponder over the weekend. |
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Nice David! Glad I'm not alone here! Mine doesn't share much interest, but hasn't restricted me from epanding my layout or collection. He even made me custom clear plastic bins for trains from medical supply device cabinets, cut to shelf length. Most are a bit wider than ho scale cars, so I can store them ready to run, rathere than in their factory boxes. I don't have a shadow storage yard.
With Holidays close, and gift's to buy for grandchildren, I recently got a "no" on a 39961 br 95, which I wanted because I don't have a large tank steamer, an ICE4, (I have a 3, and a Fleischmann analog d/c ICE 1 Amtrak), and the 29187 br 218 Cottbus/Piko. I do have a large collection, and still have some items backordered and pre ordered. A set of Roco container wagons, and tankers, and a Marklin 39190 SBB Vectron. I also placed a requst for a cancellation on a 43815 Airport Express, as the alottment of this MHI item has been allocated. Oh. Maybe you can get your hands on the 39961 later? It's a beautiful model. I've really saved up for all my pre-orders as I'm changing work and will get very little salary in December. As long as one's partner is showing respect and understanding for your hobby it really helps. |
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Originally Posted by: mike c Hi Mike C, I hope you saw last week announcement from ACME, bringing this modell ref 90182 on Q4/2021. You can preorder it at menzels-lokschupen.de or at Bahnorama.ch. Kind regards Sank
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Märklin new insider BR 06 is a nice model but nothing for me.
Another to think about is that wagon set fit for the BR 06 are now this time equipped with power cap but no decoder to control the lighting. |
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