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Hi everybody!
In the Märklin CIWL car 4029, it is printed the route Roma-Basel-Köln.
Was this a real train route (a nicht train)? Maybe along the years 1950's and 1960's.
If so, what was its composition (lokomotives, cars,...)? Of course, cars from the CIWL was in such a train for sure.
Again if so, where can I get some information about this nicht train?
Thank you very much in advance.
Happy day for everybody!
Francisco
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Originally Posted by: fosuna  Was this a real train route (a nicht train)? I don't know. I know the sleeping car was on the Riviera-Express from Italy through to Frankfurt - the train carried on to Hannover without sleeping car. I just want to say it is possible the train started south of Rome and ended north of Cologne. Are there revision dates on the coach? Any other information that may give a hint? |
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Thank you very much to all who answerd to my message.
It looks that the Roma-Basel-Köln is a part of the F9 Roma-London and F10 London-Roma in the F-Netz. Maybe this CIWL car was added/retired in Köln and only did the Roma-Köln / Köl-Roma route. Possible, according with the timetables. I will look into all the links you posted, because thera is very interesting information about international night trains. Thanks.
Francisco
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A classic, even at a 1/110 scale of 26.4 cm. I found a 4 car Roco sleeping set in the early 90's at a slight discount. I put a small biulb here and there in them, as it's a night train.
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I have found the www.welt-der-modelleisenbahn.com site to be quite informative regarding train consists. Click on the "Datei herunterladen" link at the bottom of the page to get information on the various consists year by year. |
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Originally Posted by: fosuna I have browsed all links and annexes for the relevant sleeper type ("WL AB") and other sleeper types: South of the Swiss-German border the trains ran during daytime and north of the Swiss-German border at nighttime. Consequently, during most of the time sleepers went not further south than Basel, Switzerland. Some made it until Chur, Switzerland and Milan, Italy. However, no sleeper went to Rome, Italy. Of course, artistic license applies for the model railroader after all. :O) |
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