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Offline zoooctan  
#1 Posted : 14 March 2020 05:41:52(UTC)
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Dear friends, I have been in the hobby for more than 15 years but during this time I have solely been modelling in Z scale. Having completed several layouts in analogue and DCC.

I have tried many things but have always kept to Z scale because of Marklin's quality and also because where I live, space is very limited.
However a friend of mine curiously asked me why not try a different scale.

It was an interesting question. N scale is too close to Z, and I find the world of HO full of opportunities but not very appealing. I like the US narrow gauges - but I do not have the skill or patience to lay my own track or make my own cars.

It is not as if I have not seen Marklin 1 Gauge before. My wife bought me a Maxi starter set many years ago. It is beautiful but was open perhaps no more than 5 times.

But in the last few weeks I have been fascinated with Marklin Gauge 1. Space and costs aside, the details and functionality of the trains are breathtaking. Perhaps I am also drawn to Gauge 1 because it offers all the opposite things of Z and therefore complements my hobby well. It is large (good for eyesight). The details of course are amazing. And it also offers a truly fully functional digital experience - "out of the box". Different for z scale, where I have to worry about voltage, solder my decoders, buy my own controls etc.

So after my long story, I would just like to seek for any advice that any of you might have? I thank you in advance.

I also wanted to share this layout - so small - that I call it "Ridiculous" - this is what my current space may allow, IF I ever wanted to just run one or two Gauge one locomotives. Please tell me this is not crazy?

And finally, if any of you follow Instagram, you can see pictures of my trains and Z scale layouts.
https://www.instagram.com/halland_z/

Thank you

Gavin


UserPostedImage]Micro Layout[/url]
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Offline thing fish  
#2 Posted : 14 March 2020 07:10:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zoooctan Go to Quoted Post
Please tell me this is not crazy?


Hi Gavin,

"Crazy" is good LOL

IMHO, the only limit to our hobby is just us. I mean you can have small shunting yard in g1 and enjoy it just as you do your z layout. It starts and ends with your imagination I guess.

I know many people who have very limited spaces and build small shunting yards and play shunting quizzes. Lot of fun indeed.

My two cents!

Cem.

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Offline Rwill  
#3 Posted : 14 March 2020 11:41:34(UTC)
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I did something similar a little while back. I “blew up” my digital controller at just the wrong moment in my finances. A little toy shop was selling an LGB start set including a CS2 brand new at half price.

I now suffer from a serious medical condition called “a silly grin” which is infectious as my wife who was previously model railway disinterested has caught it too along with grand kids. Kids not quite so as they think its spending their inheritance!

So, I now have (in addition to my Ho layout) a shunting puzzle shelf with one lok and eight wagons. There are a number of advantages:
1) Little temptation to purchase more stock there’s no room. No tell a lie I do have my eyes maybe on another lok.
2) I have a local Lgb dealer who is very helpful
3) Lgb is to me quite expensive but not as mind blowingly so as Gauge One
4) I have another medical condition called “getting older” the symptoms of which include; fudgy fingers, eyesight and hearing loss and loss of concentration. All these matter less with my “new” layout

Do you know if we were to “downsize” and I was only allowed to have one railway, my thirty years of Ho or my LGB I think I would choose the LGB!

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Online kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 14 March 2020 12:27:57(UTC)
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Someone on here had a G1 layout with a similar plan sometime on the last year. Perhaps someone could post a link to the thread (I'm not in a position to search it out at the moment). Perhaps a troll through the Big scale section will find it.
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Offline blid  
#5 Posted : 14 March 2020 12:33:54(UTC)
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Have you considered 0-gauge? They are very detailed too, and you will look at the layout from a short distance. When it comes to functionality there is no difference nowadays – but probably the price.
I assume your layout program have 0-gauge tracks, so compare what you can do in the different scales with tracks from different manufacturers. In your case I would go for 2-rail. There is 3-rail too. Don't forget to check what kind of rolling stock there is room for.
Note. 0-gauge are in different scales. Usualy 1:48 for US, 1:43.5 or 1:45 for Europe.
CS2, 60215, 4x60174, C-tracks, LDT HSI-88, TC Gold. OneGauge Marklin and MTH, CS1 Reloaded on LGB tracks. MTH 3-rail 0-gauge, DCS on GarGraves tracks. Z: Rokuhan tracks, analog or DCC+TC.
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Offline Purellum  
#6 Posted : 14 March 2020 12:50:02(UTC)
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Cool

Given the space, I would probably just have one turnout, to make it like a Y and then focus
more on small details to make it a nice diorama Cool

Then, where possible, let the tracks go all the way to the end of the plate, and make a fake tunnel,
so it looks like the train can drive into the tunnel BigGrin

Per.

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Offline DaleSchultz  
#7 Posted : 14 March 2020 13:23:16(UTC)
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I would make a diorama, perhaps with a loco shed...
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#8 Posted : 14 March 2020 14:39:03(UTC)
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Our member Torstein has one:

https://www.marklin-users.net/fo...e-1----A-shunting-layout

And a thing of Beauty It Is!
Jimmy T
Analogue; M-track; Inglenook; KLVM; Gauguin+Van Gogh
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Online kiwiAlan  
#9 Posted : 15 March 2020 10:11:41(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: Jimmy Thompson Go to Quoted Post
Our member Torstein has one:

https://www.marklin-users.net/fo...e-1----A-shunting-layout

And a thing of Beauty It Is!


That is the layout I was referring to in post #4, thanks for looking out the link.

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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#10 Posted : 15 March 2020 11:54:32(UTC)
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ThumpUp Thankfully, my OCD is in full flight! Woot
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Offline zoooctan  
#11 Posted : 16 March 2020 17:52:11(UTC)
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Thank you everyone. I am so happy with the amount of support and advice given by everyone. Thank you and I will keep you updated. May I ask for members who own and operate Marklin Gauge 1; what are your opinions of the running characteristics and functionalities - especially when compared to other gauges like HO. For example, I am very impressed with the steam locomotives that have steam clearing and also the ability of telex couplers (which I know are in some HO ones too).

Finally - perhaps a silly question. But are the Maxi 1 track the same as Marklin Gauge 1 track?

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Offline Janne75  
#12 Posted : 16 March 2020 22:19:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zoooctan Go to Quoted Post
Thank you everyone. I am so happy with the amount of support and advice given by everyone. Thank you and I will keep you updated. May I ask for members who own and operate Marklin Gauge 1; what are your opinions of the running characteristics and functionalities - especially when compared to other gauges like HO. For example, I am very impressed with the steam locomotives that have steam clearing and also the ability of telex couplers (which I know are in some HO ones too).

Finally - perhaps a silly question. But are the Maxi 1 track the same as Marklin Gauge 1 track?



Hello

I have at the moment eight Märklin Gauge 1 locos and all of these are digital. Three steam locos, one electric loco and four diesel locos. Soon I will have two more electric locos. These are older analog models, but I bought them mostly for display purposes to highlight my Train Room Love. I will maybe run them with analog transformer (30 VA) and after some years I will digitalise them or put digital technic to them. These two are Märklin’s 125th year Celebration SBB Crocodiles 5757 and 5758 and really nicely weathered. I like them more like this than totally new and too ”shiny”... Cool

I don’t own any steam locos that have other steam functions than normal smoke generator. But it looks much more impressive as the smoke generator is larger than in H0 scale. Also locomotives sounds are great because of much larger loud speakers and larger space inside the locos to get better accoustics. Running charasteristics and functionalities are great. I have Telex in two of my locos and these work very well. Because these Märklin Gauge 1 locos and rolling stock are quite heavy weight they will keep naturally good rail knocking sound from the rail joints. My heaviest loco K.Bay.Sts.B. Gt 2x4/4 ”Mallet” weighs around 7 kilograms.

Cheers,
Janne
Märklin H0 digital layout. I have analog and digital H0 Collection. Rolling stock mostly from era I, II, III and IV. Märklin 1 gauge beginner.
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#13 Posted : 17 March 2020 13:52:59(UTC)
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I believe that, yes, Maxi and Gauge 1 are the same size ("Maxi" was a kind of "hobby" version of the Gauge 1).

Also, for info look through this page, about half-way down, regarding "How small can a satisfying Inglenook be?" because in addition to shunting, you can also have some game-time.

https://www.carendt.com/small-la...ok/page-69-january-2008/

It looks like you might already have makings of a mini-Inglenook in your plan. And if you have not seen this link I recommend it for sure (if you have, sorry for the repeat Cool ) :

http://www.wymann.info/Shunting...es/shunting-puzzles.html
Jimmy T
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Online kiwiAlan  
#14 Posted : 18 March 2020 00:48:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jimmy Thompson Go to Quoted Post
I believe that, yes, Maxi and Gauge 1 are the same size ("Maxi" was a kind of "hobby" version of the Gauge 1).


But be careful, Marklin have used two types of G1 track over the years, and I believe if you try and mix them they can be a pain. IIRC it is something about a different style of rail joiner, and they don't quite mate properly.

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Offline Purellum  
#15 Posted : 18 March 2020 10:48:53(UTC)
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Cool

Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
But be careful, Marklin have used two types of G1 track over the years


Actually it's 4 different types + all the pre-war types, which I don't think we need to list here Cool

The first version had different and larger joiners, the tracks can be used, you just need the newer joiners.
Item numbers are 4 digit, a straight 30 cm has the item number 5900.

The next version were sold for many years, up until only a few years ago. Many dealers still have them, and
you can find a lot on Ebay. They are stainless steel, the item number is usually 4 digits ( except the 90 cm )
A straight 30 cm has the item number 5903.

The same version as above were for a few years sold as a browned version; everything is the same except
the color of the rails. These are quite rare. A straight 30 cm has the item number 5901.

The newest version is the Hübner type tracks, made in nickel-silver. You can connect them to the earlier versions;
but sleepers looks a bit different and the rails are a different color. The item numbers are 5 digit, a 30 cm track
has the item number 59058.

This poster can be really helpful: https://www.maerklin.de/...pur_1_Gleisplakat_A1.pdf

Per.

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Online kiwiAlan  
#16 Posted : 19 March 2020 10:04:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post
Cool

Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
But be careful, Marklin have used two types of G1 track over the years


Actually it's 4 different types + all the pre-war types, which I don't think we need to list here Cool


Ah, thanks for the correction and listing of differences.

I hadn't appreciated there was so many variants before the Hubner line, just the two with the change on connector.
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Offline zoooctan  
#17 Posted : 23 March 2020 09:31:19(UTC)
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Thanks this is really interesting and helpful
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Offline nygma  
#18 Posted : 01 April 2020 22:09:58(UTC)
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I am coming a bit late into this discussion. There is not much I can add. You just need to hunt for some small locos, so you fit at least one wagon a shunt up and down the track. I am trying to think if Marklin made any small railcar, but I think they did not. So it is mostly small shunting locos and 2 axle wagons.

I am not sure how much you have progressed, if you need some track to be set up and locos/wagons test fitted, let me know.
Also it would be nice to get some update. What happened since the original post?
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