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Offline Thewolf  
#1 Posted : 18 January 2020 00:13:50(UTC)
Thewolf

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Hi guys Cool

Track C marklin is a reproduction of a track with ballast.

So I'm looking for something to put between the two tracks.

I really don't see what

Do you have any ideas?

Thewolf
Project Laurentides-Neudstadt-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
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Offline Copenhagen  
#2 Posted : 18 January 2020 00:53:20(UTC)
Copenhagen


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Busch has a ballast (Schotter) especially made for C track (I believe Noch has something very close too). Using a different color for variety works well also (like Woodland Scenics gray in medium size) and then vegetation, flock, grass etc. can be used where appropriate, also something like yellowish sand/gravel can be used.
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Offline Danlake  
#3 Posted : 18 January 2020 01:46:00(UTC)
Danlake

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I agree with above post. Rather than try and replicate the ballast in between tracks it looks quite good doing a different colour. The contrast will make the tracks stand out a bit.

Have a look at Marklin exhibition layout where they use a dark brown underlay between tracks.

Best Regards
Lasse
Digital 11m2 layout / C (M&K) tracks / Era IV / CS3 60226 / Train Controller Gold 9 with 4D sound. Mainly Danish and German Locomotives.
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Offline PeFu  
#4 Posted : 18 January 2020 08:55:12(UTC)
PeFu

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Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post
Hi guys Cool

Track C marklin is a reproduction of a track with ballast.

So I'm looking for something to put between the two tracks.

I really don't see what

Do you have any ideasBigGrin ?

Thewolf


As you plan for 77.5 mm track distance instead of 64.3 mm, you could also place a lake or a city between the tracks... BigGrin

Ofcourse I’m just kidding... This layout ”almost” had me going for C tracks instead of K tracks in visible areas, it could maybe be of inspiration:



I like e.g. the areas where ballast color is the same as the C tracks. ThumpUp

The Great Krok!
Inspired by Swiss railways SBB/BLS, C and K track, CS2, TrainController Gold V9
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Offline PJMärklin  
#5 Posted : 18 January 2020 10:15:49(UTC)
PJMärklin

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Originally Posted by: PeFu Go to Quoted Post


As you plan for 77.5 mm track distance instead of 64.3 mm, you could also place a lake or a city between the tracks... BigGrin

Ofcourse I’m just kidding... This layout ”almost” had me going for C tracks instead of K tracks in visible areas, it could maybe be of inspiration:

I like e.g. the areas where ballast color is the same as the C tracks. ThumpUp




Hello Peter,

Thank you for your post of the video, I enjoyed it very much. BigGrin

You may have seen from my posts that included images of my layout that I am quite enthused with K track for numerous reasons.
As you note, K track can enable close inter-track distances - but to each his own and this wonderful forum has many fine members of eclectic interest variant at power control format, gauge, manufacture, vintage and Märklin track differences - these are the attributes that make it such a magnificent diverse forum !ThumpUp

Regards,

PJSmile

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Offline RayF  
#6 Posted : 18 January 2020 12:24:03(UTC)
RayF

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I use the Noch ballast that matches C-track, and I think the effect is very realistic.

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Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline David Dewar  
#7 Posted : 18 January 2020 12:54:05(UTC)
David Dewar

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Go with Rae as his layout with C Track to me looks excellent.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline Thewolf  
#8 Posted : 18 January 2020 17:29:00(UTC)
Thewolf

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Hy gang Cool

Thank you for your suggestions.

They are noted

I can see I'll be spoilt for choice.

Thewolf
Project Laurentides-Neudstadt-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
Offline Copenhagen  
#9 Posted : 19 January 2020 13:16:27(UTC)
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You can see a mix of Busch C ballast and Woodland Scenics gray and brown here:
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Offline esgovipa  
#10 Posted : 19 January 2020 19:20:24(UTC)
esgovipa

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I use the Noch ballast (09376).

In this album you can see the process album

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#11 Posted : 19 January 2020 21:25:48(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: esgovipa Go to Quoted Post
I use the Noch ballast (09376).

In this album you can see the process


Nice looking bit of scenery. ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

The folds in the hills do look natural, not always easy to achieve.

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Offline midwestbls  
#12 Posted : 23 January 2020 21:09:52(UTC)
midwestbls

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I think the greatest contributor to C-track looking more "natural" is to weather - even lightly - the sides of the rails! A bit of dry brushing (almost any shade of gray, black, brown, etc.) across the plastic ballast is also a winner. And if you clip your catenary masts or signals under the roadbed, for sure ballast or cover the "gap" - that looks terrible.
ETE - Swiss Era III - BLS - Brig Station
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Offline dickinsonj  
#13 Posted : 24 January 2020 00:48:05(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Originally Posted by: midwestbls Go to Quoted Post
I think the greatest contributor to C-track looking more "natural" is to weather - even lightly - the sides of the rails!


I agree. You can get a really nice look with less mess and way less cost and labor, especially for a larger layout by weathering versus the (beautiful) hand laid ballast. I would prefer the later but my plans are for long lines and I can't lavish that much money and effort except in a few areas. The weathered track and ballast are easier to keep clean too, which is a concern for me, after seeing some people's trains after running or storing under poor conditions

BTW - Just figuring this stuff out is really fun for me - I know that I am weird- but at least I am happy. ThumpUp

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline mbarreto  
#14 Posted : 24 January 2020 13:30:26(UTC)
mbarreto

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In a Märklin Magazine (German edition) from 1997 or 1999 (I can't remeber but think was from 1999), there was an article about weathering C track.
Beyond painting the rails, I remember the first task was to remove the shine of the ballast. After that thye changed the colour to something close to what is the Trix C track and added some raw painting so that it didn't lok so homogeneous.
Unfortunately I can't remember how it was done, and I also don't remember if I understood it (as it was in German...).
In case during the weekend I find the article, I will take a photo and upload, but probablility of find it is very low.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline RayF  
#15 Posted : 24 January 2020 19:12:18(UTC)
RayF

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On the question of "weathering" C-track, I would like to comment that when ballasted nicely with the Noch ballast and used for a couple of years, the natural effect of trains running and household dust mixing into it will produce quite a pleasantly realistic look.

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Others might disagree, but I think there's no need for me to paint the rails or do anything else to this track...
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline dickinsonj  
#16 Posted : 25 January 2020 01:10:17(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Others might disagree, but I think there's no need for me to paint the rails or do anything else to this track...


I completely agree with you Ray - that track is perfect and needs nothing but trains running on it. ThumpUp

I think the utility of weathering is for long runs of straight track like the American southwest I want to model as part of my next layout. When modeling very long lines the economy of just dry brushing and getting a good appearance makes sense. I think everyone agrees that doing something like Noch ballast gives a lovely result and is preferable. ThumpUp

I also was interested in your comment about it looking better with time and dirt and thinking Wow, I never thought my poor cleaning habits could have an actual purpose. BigGrin

But seriously, maintaining it over time was a concern of mine when deciding how much of my layout I want to do real ballast on. Definitely in more built up scenes and in my more highly landscaped areas and it is good to know that it just gets better as it ages. ThumpUp
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
I have models from Era I to Era VI, but I try to focus on Eras I & III. Whoops, that one got away from me. Let's just say I focus on cool trains, regardless of the particulars :-)
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#17 Posted : 25 January 2020 07:03:10(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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I agree that painting the sides of the rail is likely the most effective, but a lot of work.

Try to vary the colours between C track.
I use standard coloured Noch or other scenic texture paper underlays, changing them every half-metre (18 inches) or so.
It looks OK to me for a model train set, and bypasses the mess associated with glues and ballasting.
The more random your colour changes, the better.

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Yards are in-fill with cardboard rail to rail.

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Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail (USA and Australia) - 3 rail (English Hornby Dublo) - a few old O gauge.
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Offline rrf  
#18 Posted : 25 January 2020 13:11:49(UTC)
rrf

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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
I use standard coloured Noch or other scenic texture paper underlays

Hello,

Has anyone found an underlay that is a good match for C-Track Ballast?

Regards,
Rob
Mackenrode Wende Bahn
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