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Offline GaryTrooper  
#1 Posted : 02 July 2019 06:28:35(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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Are, or were 3071 and 4071 interior lightning kits ever available?

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G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
Offline mike c  
#2 Posted : 02 July 2019 06:35:07(UTC)
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They probably were available as a spare part. The metal bracket was included with the model. It was not something that was available separately. You would have to check with Maerklin or maybe APC-Adams or Ritter Restauration for the parts.

Did your model not come with the set up? I'm trying to remember whether my brother's set (1971) came with lighting or whether we had to add the bulbs and the diffusers ourselves. The other model I have is the 3471 which came with lighting.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/...wagen-3071/323778847811?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/...n-RAm-3070/323772429153?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/...schenwagen/323802445016?

Regards

Mike C
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Offline Markus Schild  
#3 Posted : 02 July 2019 08:31:09(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi Gary,

The first version of the train (3070) came with interior lightning. So the interior lightning can be easily added with spare-parts. In the Märklin - magazine 1/1979 instructions were published including the spare-part numbers needed.

mm-1979-1.pdf (1,255kb) downloaded 37 time(s).

Regards

Markus
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Offline PeFu  
#4 Posted : 02 July 2019 08:53:46(UTC)
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I installed LED lists, as below. Cost per car is approx. 2-3 EUR.

https://www.marklin-user...esign-dilemma#post594416

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Offline GaryTrooper  
#5 Posted : 02 July 2019 16:47:46(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi Gary,

The first version of the train (3070) came with interior lightning. So the interior lightning can be easily added with spare-parts. In the Märklin - magazine 1/1979 instructions were published including the spare-part numbers needed.

mm-1979-1.pdf (1,255kb) downloaded 37 time(s).

Regards

Markus


Thank you Markus. That is very helpful.

Gary
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
Offline GaryTrooper  
#6 Posted : 02 July 2019 16:50:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PeFu Go to Quoted Post
I installed LED lists, as below. Cost per car is approx. 2-3 EUR.

https://www.marklin-user...esign-dilemma#post594416

Love


I'm actually using this method for other passenger wagons. For some reason I wish to keep TEE train more vintage.

Thanks,

Gary
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
Offline GaryTrooper  
#7 Posted : 02 July 2019 16:53:22(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
They probably were available as a spare part. The metal bracket was included with the model. It was not something that was available separately. You would have to check with Maerklin or maybe APC-Adams or Ritter Restauration for the parts.

Did your model not come with the set up? I'm trying to remember whether my brother's set (1971) came with lighting or whether we had to add the bulbs and the diffusers ourselves. The other model I have is the 3471 which came with lighting.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/...wagen-3071/323778847811?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/...n-RAm-3070/323772429153?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/...schenwagen/323802445016?

Regards

Mike C


Mike,

Excellent find!

Thank you,

Gary
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
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Offline jerdenberg  
#8 Posted : 02 July 2019 17:59:32(UTC)
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Quote:
interior lightning kits ever available?


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Offline GaryTrooper  
#9 Posted : 02 July 2019 18:08:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jerdenberg Go to Quoted Post
Quote:
interior lightning kits ever available?


Ouch Laugh [my copy-editing deformation at work]


That would charge a person up!LOL
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Offline GaryTrooper  
#10 Posted : 05 July 2019 05:18:38(UTC)
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It's fleet wide interior coach lighting time!

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O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
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Offline GaryTrooper  
#11 Posted : 05 July 2019 07:22:44(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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Originally Posted by: GaryTrooper Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
They probably were available as a spare part. The metal bracket was included with the model. It was not something that was available separately. You would have to check with Maerklin or maybe APC-Adams or Ritter Restauration for the parts.

Did your model not come with the set up? I'm trying to remember whether my brother's set (1971) came with lighting or whether we had to add the bulbs and the diffusers ourselves. The other model I have is the 3471 which came with lighting.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/...wagen-3071/323778847811?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/...n-RAm-3070/323772429153?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/...schenwagen/323802445016?

Regards

Mike C


Mike,

Excellent find!

Thank you,

Gary


Mike,

The 3071 didn't come with interior lighting but the 4071 wagon did. I got these sets on Ebay recently so I dont know who did what to the train.

Looking at my old 1978 catalog the Norhlander train came with interior lighting but the TEE RAM didn't.

20190704_231753~2.jpg

Gary
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
Offline GaryTrooper  
#12 Posted : 12 July 2019 04:59:15(UTC)
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20190711_205326~2.jpg


I'm finding that installing interior passenger wagon lighting is tricky business.
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
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Offline river6109  
#13 Posted : 12 July 2019 05:09:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GaryTrooper Go to Quoted Post
20190711_205326~2.jpg


I'm finding that installing interior passenger wagon lighting is tricky business.


it can be especially when you use bulbs and not leds, the power consumption could be quite high, my solution is for trains (not to be seperated) to use 4 pin electrical couplings and therefore use the loco decoder for all the interior lights in coaches.

John

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Offline Ross  
#14 Posted : 12 July 2019 07:41:18(UTC)
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Hi Gary/All,

Please see my article re adding LED lights to the 37500 Northlander.

37500 Northlander

Of interest is the masking at the front of the train.

Hope it provides ideas to aid in your LED light conversions.
Ross
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Offline GaryTrooper  
#15 Posted : 12 July 2019 20:23:07(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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Originally Posted by: Ross Go to Quoted Post
Hi Gary/All,

Please see my article re adding LED lights to the 37500 Northlander.

37500 Northlander

Of interest is the masking at the front of the train.

Hope it provides ideas to aid in your LED light conversions.


That is a very nice and helpful article. Thank you for sharing it.

Gary
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
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Offline GaryTrooper  
#16 Posted : 12 July 2019 20:27:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GaryTrooper Go to Quoted Post
20190711_205326~2.jpg


I'm finding that installing interior passenger wagon lighting is tricky business.


it can be especially when you use bulbs and not leds, the power consumption could be quite high, my solution is for trains (not to be seperated) to use 4 pin electrical couplings and therefore use the loco decoder for all the interior lights in coaches.

John




Only the TEE train in that photo is using incandescent bulbs. All the other trains in that photo have LED lighting boards with either white, soft white, or yellow LEDs. My trains are old and don't have electrical contact couplers so running power conductors through the train to reduce the number of wagons with pickup shoes was the tricky part.
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O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
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Offline GaryTrooper  
#17 Posted : 13 July 2019 05:17:13(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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velpicjoincollage20190712_211302.jpg

This is what LED interior lighting looks like in the TEE RAM.

Now I need to make interior seating fixtures.
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
Offline GaryTrooper  
#18 Posted : 14 July 2019 20:16:37(UTC)
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20190714_113421~2.jpg

20190714_113557~2.jpg

This somewhat shows the difference between LED and incandescent interior lighting inside the TEE RAm.

The top photo shows the TEE RAm with LED lighting boards and the bottom photo shows the vintage incandescent interior lighting system. The LED intensity is adjustable. I have the intensity turned up to about 90% of the adjustable range. The incandescent bulbs appear brighter in the photo than they actually are.
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