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Offline Incognito  
#1 Posted : 21 January 2019 23:05:58(UTC)
Incognito

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I have recently acquired the three boxes with cars for the Kaiser Wilhelm II train set. I did not get the locomotive. My problem is that I do not have any documentation on the cars, and while I figured out how to get the lights to work using addresses 10 and 11, I need to replace a bulb and I cannot figure out how to take the body off the car. These seem to be very delicate and I don't want to break them. Does Marklin have a site where I could download them? Does anybody have the documentation to this set?
Offline franciscohg  
#2 Posted : 21 January 2019 23:08:20(UTC)
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Hello, i can scan them for you later
Regards
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Offline DTaylor91  
#3 Posted : 22 January 2019 01:00:05(UTC)
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I have these cars (and a couple extras for spare parts). You do not need to remove the body to change lights, only the roof. Disconnect the end handrails that go from the car end to the roof. Carefully run a fingernail under one of the roof corners and gently pry it up. Don't be surprised if, once one corner is up, the roof comes loose easier than expected. Once the roof is up, the light bar and circuit board easily snaps out of the roof. Next remove the light diffuser, which can be stubborn, so be patient. One the diffuser is free, the light bulbs unplug easily and can be replaced. Make sure to use part number 61 0080 for the bulb, I'm told others can get too hot and warp your very expensive car roof.

Some photos:

DSCN3428.jpgDSCN3430.jpgDSCN3429.jpgDSCN3432.jpg

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Offline cookee_nz  
#4 Posted : 22 January 2019 03:20:57(UTC)
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Quote:
"I'm told others can get too hot and warp your very expensive car roof."


Sounds like a good time to modify to LED's?
Cookee
Wellington
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Offline Markus Schild  
#5 Posted : 22 January 2019 09:23:05(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi,

The set was delivered in four parts. So it comes with four manuals and and four booklets with historic informations. The documents ..a1.. to ..a4.. are the manuals with the technical informations and ...b1... to ...b4.. are the booklets.


ba-2681_2881-a1-683670-c-1195-na.pdf (4,069kb) downloaded 54 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-a2-600181-c-0596-na.pdf (5,394kb) downloaded 30 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-a3-600172-1196-sd.pdf (5,303kb) downloaded 24 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-a4-600188-1296-sd.pdf (5,070kb) downloaded 23 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-b1-683690-c-1195-na.pdf (8,509kb) downloaded 29 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-b2-600391-c-0596-na.pdf (8,730kb) downloaded 24 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-b3-600173-c-1096-sd.pdf (9,552kb) downloaded 24 time(s).
ba-2681_2881-b4-600392-c-1196-sd.pdf (9,284kb) downloaded 26 time(s).



Regards

Markus
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Offline Incognito  
#6 Posted : 22 January 2019 18:37:28(UTC)
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Thanks to everybody for their help. LEDs are a good idea. I'll try it on the car that needs the new bulb and if I like the way it looks, I'll do it to all the other cars.

Alex
Offline Incognito  
#7 Posted : 22 January 2019 22:03:13(UTC)
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Adding LEDs looks a little more difficult than I thought. It will become a future project.
Offline mbarreto  
#8 Posted : 22 January 2019 22:19:22(UTC)
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Maybe it is better you start with less valuable coaces until you get more familiar with that type of task.
When you feel more confident you do it on your best coaches.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline Ross  
#9 Posted : 29 March 2019 02:20:09(UTC)
Ross

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Hi Incognito (a real name is nice) /All,

I have just upgraded my 2681 King Wilhelm II to have LED lighting and I'm pleased with the results.

If you are interested visit my web page under the Tips section to find out how it was done.

Originally Posted by: Incognito Go to Quoted Post
Adding LEDs looks a little more difficult than I thought. It will become a future project.


Ross
Offline cookee_nz  
#10 Posted : 05 July 2019 04:24:52(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Does anyone have the instructions which show how to remove the boiler and access the motor?

The set of docs which Markus provided previously show how to access the Decoder and removing the wheelsets but not the motor/wiring.

I can't find anything on M. website either but then again, I usually can't, their search function is crap.

Thanks in advance

Cheers

Cookee

Edited by user 05 July 2019 10:47:59(UTC)  | Reason: Typos

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Offline Markus Schild  
#11 Posted : 05 July 2019 07:26:04(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Does anyone have the instructions which show how the remove the boiler and access the motor?



Hi Cookee,

The exploded view of later versions of the locomotive (e.g. 33190) give good hints.

33190_explo.pdf (319kb) downloaded 27 time(s).

Regards

Markus

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Offline hxmiesa  
#12 Posted : 05 July 2019 08:52:28(UTC)
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Quote:
Adding LEDs looks a little more difficult than I thought. It will become a future project.

A question to everybody (out of ignorance) -But isnt changing to LED "transparent" to the user? -I mean; I seem to remember having seen bulp-shaped LEDs of all sizes, replacing the old bulps. These LEDs have the same housing as the bulps (being it with bajonet or thread for fastening), and comes with a series resistor already integrated in this housing.

Is my memory decceiving me¿?

Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
Offline cookee_nz  
#13 Posted : 05 July 2019 10:51:15(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Does anyone have the instructions which show how the remove the boiler and access the motor?



Hi Cookee,

The exploded view of later versions of the locomotive (e.g. 33190) give good hints.

33190_explo.pdf (319kb) downloaded 27 time(s).

Regards

Markus



Ah so the screw is in the chimney!! - I already checked that but it looked to have a solid bottom. I even tried a screwdriver down there in case my eyes were playing tricks on me.

I'll take another look next time

Thanks Markus
Cookee
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Offline franciscohg  
#14 Posted : 05 July 2019 20:30:21(UTC)
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Hi, you can also remove the front of the boiler to have better view of the screw head. It is easier to place the screwdriver correctly.
Regards
UserPostedImage German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
Offline cookee_nz  
#15 Posted : 06 July 2019 01:04:59(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Hi, you can also remove the front of the boiler to have better view of the screw head. It is easier to place the screwdriver correctly.
Regards


Already checked that, and looked for a cap on top of the domes. All appear to be solid single piece.

On the other hand, if you (or anyone else) has this exact Loco and can show a picture of the part removed, it would be very helpful.

Cheers
Cookee
Wellington
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Offline franciscohg  
#16 Posted : 06 July 2019 02:40:48(UTC)
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yes, it looks solid, but the front cap of the boiler can be removed thus making the screw more accesible.
Regards
UserPostedImage German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL
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