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Offline BrandonVA  
#1 Posted : 04 August 2016 19:51:08(UTC)
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I received my Marklin 39621 "Great Northern" EMD F7 Double Cab (A-A) set yesterday, so it's time for a review!

Prototype:
Great Northern had 65 F7 A units (2 were converted from EMD demonstrators) and 49 F7 B units, making these fairly prolific motive power for the railroad (although not one of the few railroads with hundreds of these units as ATSF, B&O, NYC and SP). Units were numbered 2xx A/B, 3xx A/B, 4xx A/B.

Marklin's model is 309-A and 309-C. These units are listed at 241,000 lbs each, built October, 1950. These units were not by any means photo shy.

309-C in Saint Paul, MN, 7/15/1967:
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And in Naperville, Il 4/20/1963:
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309-A in Minneapolis, MN, 1967:
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And again in 6/6/1968:
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Regarding liveries, from the late 40s through the early 70s (prior to Burlington Northern), GN had at least four distict liveries on cab units. The livery choose by Marklin and represented in the previous photos is the 2nd chronologically (and best looking IMHO), used from the early 50s through the late 60s. Here is 309-C in Minot, North Dakota July 2nd, 1969 with the final GN livery prior to BN.

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The GN F7 units were freight units had a single headlight as far as I can tell. Some passenger units had the MARs light.

Like most US railroads, GN ran large motive sets. However, it is possible to find some A-A units for inspiration:

Location/date unknown:
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Tacoma, WA , July 1957 (note the plow fitted):
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, Summer 1956:
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As far as I can tell, in the 300s, units 350-365 were used for passenger service, meaning 309A and 309C were destined to a life of hauling freight. However, it wouldn't be too much a stretch of the imagination...

And finally, regarding geography, GN, much like my beloved D&RGW, passed through the rockies in the wild west:

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#2 Posted : 04 August 2016 20:16:11(UTC)
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Detailing, Construction and Paint:

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These units would be what I consider to be Marklin's fourth generation F7 tooling, the same tooling used for the 26496 ATSF Super Chief and 39620 Soo Line sets. Some details include:

-Improved nose/window shape
-Marker lights and detailed running numbers
-Cab interior details
-Grab irons on nose and cab
-All metal construction as with previous Marklin F7 units

They feel about the same as any other Marklin F unit. They are attached with a permanent drawbar that allows for a very small gap between units.

As far as the paint is concerned, it is perhaps some of the best quality paint I have ever seen on a Marklin model. The crispness is outstanding, these units exceed those of any previous generation of Marklin F7 (although are probably the same as the Super Chief and Soo Line units which I have not seen in person). Marklin have done an excellent job with the quality of paint and detail on these units. Even the fine Great Northern seal is easily legible:

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Regarding the livery, Marlkin has done a pretty good job. Freight units such as these had black trucks instead of silver trucks, as is captured. The only obvious difference between a prototype and the model is the silver side louvers/vents. As far as I can tell, these were almost always the same green as used otherwise on the body. However, most colour photos are from the 60s, and as a result it could be possible there was an earlier phase of this livery that was silver.

Unit 423, which has been restored sometime within the past 15 years, does sport some silver vents:
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It also looks like these untis with the simplified green/orange scheme have silver vents, but hard to tell for sure:
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As well as this unit with the simplified scheme:
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Included in the box (but not pictured) are coupler pockets for NEM couplers and snow plows.
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#3 Posted : 04 August 2016 20:51:25(UTC)
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Oh boy this is tempting, despite my having sold off the US prototype equipment...

Is it one motor or two motor?
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Offline BrandonVA  
#4 Posted : 04 August 2016 20:55:43(UTC)
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Operation, Sound and Digital Functions:

The locomotive is equipped with a mfx+ sound decoder, allowing for cab operation with CS2/3. There is no locomotive icon, I added one myself.

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Digital functions:
-Headlight
-Number board/marker lights
-Diesel running sounds
-Horn
-ABV off
-Squealing brakes off
-Cab Radio
-Coupler sounds
-Letting of air
-Rain joint sounds
-Switching range

Cab control works fine, but I do not use it. I set the locomotive to "standard" operation mode. If you forget and run out of fuel, just reset the decoder from CS2/3 and then change the mode.

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Sound:

As with the 37935 ATSF Mikado, the sound in the latest generation decoders is outstanding. The sound was quiet loud, I had to turn it down a bit to match my tastes. Crisp, clear and detailed. The sound is improved from mfx equipped 3rd generation Marklin F7s like B&O 37618 and UP 37629. I think the sounds may all be new recordings, but there is no way to know. The cab radio recording is new from that previously used by Marklin. I wish that Marklin had included one or two more cab radio sequences.

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Lighting:
The LED lighting is an improvement from previous generations. The quality and brightness are good. This is the one area in which I think this model could be improved, inclusion of cab lighting as with the 39620 Soo Line F7s, and also with dual headlight bulbs as with the prototype.

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Running quality and power:

Both units are powered with DCM motors. Each unit has two powered axles (rear truck) and two traction tires, for combined total of four powered axles and four traction tires. The DCM motors are fairly quiet compared to other DCM motors I own, but they are still noticeable, increasing as expected at higher speeds. As this is a diesel locomotive, the sound does not detract very much. There is a single slider which makes no noticeable noise. The unit is equipped with metal Marklin F7 style couplers the same as those used all the way back to ATSF 3060/4060 on both units. Typically these couplers are very reliable and do not let go

Running otherwise is smooth and perfect, no derailments, wobble, etc. The pulling power is very good due to the weight of the units and the double motor configuration. My quick test reveals no problem pulling 12 four axle 50 foot tin plate cars up and down 2% grades, as well as around R1 curves. I will likely add more load in the future, and will try to remember to include the results. I expect it should be able to pull as much as the other double motor Marklin A-B-B and A-B-A sets issued in the last 20 years.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#5 Posted : 04 August 2016 21:01:43(UTC)
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Packaging:

This comes in a gray Marklin digital photo box. It is not a sleeve style box. There lid lifts off, and thre are two tabs to retain it. Once cardboard lid is removed, an additional stryofoam lid must be removed from the styrofoam casting to reveal the locomotive. The locomotive is surrounded an four sides by white felt (a strip on each side and a piece at the end of each nose), as well as a plastic sheet wrapped around each locomotive. In terms of packaging, this should allow for the relatively heavy units to be shipped without damage. My copy arrived 100% intact.

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Offline BrandonVA  
#6 Posted : 04 August 2016 21:06:54(UTC)
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Conclusion (or quick review):

This is an excellent F7 model from Marklin. It has superb masterclass quality paint, sound and pulling power. Digital control is smooth and operation is reliable. I love this livery, and would absolutely recommend these units. I got these despite my general restriction to only purchase motive power for railroads found in Colorado and Utah: ATSF, D&RGW and UP.

Minor suggested improvements: cab lighting, improved headlight design for the 4th generation tooling (2 internal bulbs like the prototype), and additional radio chatter. The sound is so good I want more! However, none of this would keep me from purchasing this unit.

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-Brandon
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Offline BrandonVA  
#7 Posted : 04 August 2016 21:09:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Oh boy this is tempting, despite my having sold off the US prototype equipment...

Is it one motor or two motor?


I bought this, despite no Colorado connection :) It has two motors, one per unit.

-Brandon
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Online steventrain  
#8 Posted : 04 August 2016 22:10:40(UTC)
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Very good review.ThumpUp

What weight is the 39621?
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Offline BrandonVA  
#9 Posted : 05 August 2016 02:43:54(UTC)
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What weight is the 39621?


Steven,

As weighed by me, 39621 is 874g.

In comparison, an analog D&RGW 3062+4062 unit weighed 772g. Two MTH 3e+ F3 units (A+B) weighed 1000g.

-Brandon
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Offline BrandonVA  
#10 Posted : 05 August 2016 05:37:57(UTC)
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Updated pulling power test, up and down 2% grades, and done at low speeds (FS 2 through 24):

-16 US 50 foot tin plate 4 axle boxcars
-8 US tin plate 4 axle tankers
-3 US plastic 4 axle gondolas
-2 US plastic 4 axle flatbeds
-1 US tin plate 4 axle caboose caboose (courtesy of ATSF)

Total cars: 30
Total axles: 120

Passed with flying colours. This is the utter limit test for me, running trains this long is not a regular business. CS2 reporting 0.175-0.2 amps consumed under this load for 39621 w/headlight, running boards and operating sounds. I did, however, forgot to take the idle 37622 ATSF F7 A-B off the layout.

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Offline foumaro  
#11 Posted : 05 August 2016 14:33:29(UTC)
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#12 Posted : 05 August 2016 14:59:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post


What weight is the 39621?


Steven,

As weighed by me, 39621 is 874g.

In comparison, an analog D&RGW 3062+4062 unit weighed 772g. Two MTH 3e+ F3 units (A+B) weighed 1000g.

-Brandon


Thanks for the reply.Wink
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#13 Posted : 06 August 2016 03:14:49(UTC)
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Excellent and exhaustive review. Do you intend to determine the weight of the 120 axle freight train, too?
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Offline foumaro  
#14 Posted : 06 August 2016 06:28:39(UTC)
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I am waiting mine with more impatience now.Brandon always give us such perfect and detailed reviews.ThumpUp
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Offline foumaro  
#15 Posted : 06 August 2016 10:16:23(UTC)
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I think that it will be very interesting if marklin had decide to give this pair with both liveries,one unit with the orange and green and the other with blue white.
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#16 Posted : 06 August 2016 11:27:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Conclusion (or quick review):

This is an excellent F7 model from Marklin. It has superb masterclass quality paint, sound and pulling power. Digital control is smooth and operation is reliable. I love this livery, and would absolutely recommend these units. I got these despite my general restriction to only purchase motive power for railroads found in Colorado and Utah: ATSF, D&RGW and UP.

Minor suggested improvements: cab lighting, improved headlight design for the 4th generation tooling (2 internal bulbs like the prototype), and additional radio chatter. The sound is so good I want more! However, none of this would keep me from purchasing this unit.

......

-Brandon


Thanks Brandon, comprehensive, useful review. Beautiful set.

regards
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Offline BrandonVA  
#17 Posted : 06 August 2016 14:41:13(UTC)
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Excellent and exhaustive review. Do you intend to determine the weight of the 120 axle freight train, too?


-16 US 50 foot tin plate 4 axle boxcars (12 units @ 126g each, 4 units @ 116g each)* - 1976g
-8 US tin plate 4 axle tankers (8 units @ 116g each) - 928g
-3 US plastic 4 axle gondolas (3 units @ 80g each) - 240g
-2 US plastic 4 axle flatbeds (2 units, unloaded @ 77g, loaded @ 117g)** - 194g
-1 US tin plate 4 axle caboose (1 unit @ 82g) - 82g

Grand total: 3420g (3.42 kg)

*US boxcars produced in the 1990s weigh 116g, those produced in the past 10 years weigh 126g.
**Load is Marklin (Wiking) tractor trailer truck and wheel chocks included w/flatbed

-Brandon
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Offline BrandonVA  
#18 Posted : 06 August 2016 14:43:29(UTC)
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I think that it will be very interesting if marklin had decide to give this pair with both liveries,one unit with the orange and green and the other with blue white.


If Marklin were to creep over in to era IV US motive power, there are almost endless rainbow era combinations as railroads consolidated and combined operations. I wonder if such units would be popular?

If nothing else you could mix the stock :)

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#19 Posted : 06 August 2016 18:24:01(UTC)
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Already posted in another topic, but...

f7 GN

more large pics at the bottom of the page here:
http://www.marklinfan.net/emd_f7.htm
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Offline Tex  
#20 Posted : 03 September 2016 06:14:29(UTC)
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It is an excellent model based on the comments in this post, however, I was attracted by the photographs and the Great Northern system map. My grandfather, Charles Setterlund, was recruited in Sweden before the turn of the century to work for the then new Great Northern railroad. He worked out of Grand Forks, North Dakota where I was born and rose to become an engineer on the Empire Builder in the steam era , where he met his death in a grade crossing accident in 1944. The change to diesels was very rapid in the early 1950's. I recall the engines being orange with a dark green trim which in the Marklin models looks almost black.

Tex aka Richard Setterlund

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Offline Janne75  
#21 Posted : 03 September 2016 09:12:40(UTC)
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Hi Brandon,

Thanks for the excellent review ThumpUp . I don't have any US Märklin locos or rolling stock, but if I ever buy one it will be this one. It has beautiful looking livery and seems to be a great loco too. Love

Cheers,
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#22 Posted : 03 September 2016 16:26:19(UTC)
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Hi Brandon,

Thanks for the excellent review ThumpUp . I don't have any US Märklin locos or rolling stock, but if I ever buy one it will be this one. It has beautiful looking livery and seems to be a great loco too. Love

Cheers,
Janne


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#23 Posted : 03 September 2016 16:28:42(UTC)
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I got my 39621,I am fully agreed with Brandon,she is just perfect like all previous F7 marklin models.Love LOL ThumpUp Wub
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Offline Hackcell  
#24 Posted : 05 September 2016 01:56:41(UTC)
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Great review, thanks for sharing.

Sounds ilke I've just picked my next M purchase. Nevertheless, I'd pimp it with 2 ESU decoders and 2 extra lights on each unit (gyra light at the nose and cab light).

Also, a railmaster hobbies speaker installed on each unit using the massive speaker cone used on models like the 37629 would make it sound awesome.
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#25 Posted : 12 September 2016 21:00:34(UTC)
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My 39621 arrived, looks great but right out of the box, I am getting lots of wheel slippage even when pulling no cars. Wheels spinning and loco not moving right away. If I give it a gentle push with my finger it gets going and seems to run ok. I don't think its my track because my V160 37741 runs over the same track while pulling several cars just fine. I looked at the slider, it seems ok. I am still pretty much of a rookie when it comes to these issues. Any suggestions? Thanks Steve
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#26 Posted : 13 September 2016 08:50:46(UTC)
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Check if the two motors begin working together.i am afraid they are not.If the worker that fits the motors tide the screws of the cover of the motor very much the rotor is not working well.The better is to see the loomotive your dealer.
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#27 Posted : 15 September 2016 03:06:23(UTC)
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Thanks for your reply. My dealer's repair guy says the brushes could need to be adjusted. Wonder if I could that myself and avoid sending the loco in for repair?
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#28 Posted : 15 September 2016 09:01:28(UTC)
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It is a possible problem,if someone put a lot of oil to the motor. Changing motor brushes is too easy for an experienced,maybe difficult for a rookie.It is your decision.If the dealer is close to you ask him to do it for you and watch the way he is doing that.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#29 Posted : 30 September 2016 23:17:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tex Go to Quoted Post
It is an excellent model based on the comments in this post, however, I was attracted by the photographs and the Great Northern system map. My grandfather, Charles Setterlund, was recruited in Sweden before the turn of the century to work for the then new Great Northern railroad. He worked out of Grand Forks, North Dakota where I was born and rose to become an engineer on the Empire Builder in the steam era , where he met his death in a grade crossing accident in 1944. The change to diesels was very rapid in the early 1950's. I recall the engines being orange with a dark green trim which in the Marklin models looks almost black.

Tex aka Richard Setterlund



Richard,

Thanks for the interesting family story, sorry of course to hear of the outcome.

As far as the colour, while it looks black due to some underexposure in my photos, it's pretty green. I'll see if I can take another photo later with better lighting and exposure.

-Brandon
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#30 Posted : 30 September 2016 23:24:56(UTC)
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Thanks for your reply. My dealer's repair guy says the brushes could need to be adjusted. Wonder if I could that myself and avoid sending the loco in for repair?


It is not too hard too do. Whether you attempt it is up to your comfort level. Perhaps even a US dealer would take a look to save it the trip back to Germany.

I have many Marklin duel motor models, and occasionally thought purchased (although mostly used) have issues with this. With used models I will break down the whole motor and clean it, but with a new one check the brush seating and alignment (they are flat), and also maybe check to see if the motor shield is too tight (or loose). A small drop of oil on the motor bearings may help if they appear to be completely dry, but careful not to over oil.

Most importantly, with the F units, be careful not to bump the shells together where the units meet when lifting them off. It would be a shame to ruin the paint.

-Brandon
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#31 Posted : 01 October 2016 05:18:51(UTC)
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I have bad news for mine 39621 too.The first time i run the loco after one minute maybe less the loco stopped.I gave the loco to my dealer,he changed the decoder and the result was again the same,after one round game over.The locomotive went back to marklin.At least unacceptαble situation.I will let you know about the sollution of my problem.
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#32 Posted : 11 October 2016 00:42:19(UTC)
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I have bad news for mine 39621 too.The first time i run the loco after one minute maybe less the loco stopped.I gave the loco to my dealer,he changed the decoder and the result was again the same,after one round game over.The locomotive went back to marklin.At least unacceptαble situation.I will let you know about the sollution of my problem.


Hi there:

So sorry to hear about your F-7 (39621). That should, as all of us know, have never happened. Very Very disappointing for the Marklin F-7 fans.

I got so worried that I decided to pull mine out and give it a whirl. Lucky for me, all went well. Or at least lok seems to do what it should on the "test stand"
I ran the engine received on June 15, 2016 for about 20 minutes in each direction, and touching the different sounds at different intervals. Fortunately in my case all seems well.

I feel bad for the rest of the owners who had to suffer the defects. I know the feeling, but it has been a while since I have had to have factory service.

OOps that was last year, with my E-41, (39415) which took about 3 months. I believe it was reported to have had a "bad board"


Good luck, and here is hoping your F-7 comes back better than the best.

Regards, gene
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#33 Posted : 11 October 2016 09:14:58(UTC)
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I hope my problem will find a sollution but anyway i will think twice for now on to buy a new marklin loco again.I asked for a new locomotive,i will wait and see what they will send me back.I do not ordered the challenger for that reason.
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#34 Posted : 11 October 2016 23:13:09(UTC)
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I hope my problem will find a sollution but anyway i will think twice for now on to buy a new marklin loco again.I asked for a new locomotive,i will wait and see what they will send me back.I do not ordered the challenger for that reason.



So really sorry that you are down on Marklin. Yes, that was a very bad failure, but I am wondering if there was something in the assembly process that
blew the second decoder. I know that is not a good excuse, but stuff happens, to all of us.

I finally tried to run my "repaired E-41, and all went well. The factory did not completely replace the plastic cover that rests over the
plastic lok cradle. But no loss, that part makes it hard to get the lok out to run. Now to run the silver fish!!

Anyway, I have about 3-4 new loks to test run that I haven't had time to set up the past 4 months of so.

I feel that Marklin will do good by you, and you will be so happy to have a new heavy and healthy F-7 in the Great Northern colors.

Best Regards,
gene

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#35 Posted : 12 October 2016 08:53:19(UTC)
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I am sure that they will give the better sollution.Thank you for your interest Gene,regards,Panayotis.BigGrin
Offline klarinettmeister  
#36 Posted : 12 October 2016 09:19:36(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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My unit was ok but I had big problems with my other F7-unit; 37618. The loco didn´t register at first and I opened the cases. There I found the decoder... loose! After installing it I put the F7 back on the track and turned on the power. Of course you could hear the well-known sound of a short-curcuit.... The cables were checked and I hade to send back my unit. Do I have my F7? Nope... this was in May!

I have gotten an hint from Märklin that the repairs are done though. And as a side-note I had problems with my transfer table 72491 which I ordered at the same time. I have received that unit and to my surprise it works and now stops where itś supposed to.

Anyway I think the 39621 is a wonderfultrain. I haven´t had the time to test the pulling power though.
Offline foumaro  
#37 Posted : 05 November 2016 21:48:33(UTC)
foumaro

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Thanks to my dealer and marklin i have a new F7 Great Northern in perfect working condition.LOL Love ThumpUp
Offline grnwtrs  
#38 Posted : 06 November 2016 01:10:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Thanks to my dealer and marklin i have a new F7 Great Northern in perfect working condition.LOL Love ThumpUp


Great news!! BigGrin BigGrin

Wait, have you given her a good run?

How do/did you like the sounds. I love mine, but I am a sucker for the forlorn diesel sound.

Best regards, gene
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Offline foumaro  
#39 Posted : 06 November 2016 04:32:08(UTC)
foumaro

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Originally Posted by: grnwtrs Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Thanks to my dealer and marklin i have a new F7 Great Northern in perfect working condition.LOL Love ThumpUp


Great news!! BigGrin BigGrin

Wait, have you given her a good run?

How do/did you like the sounds. I love mine, but I am a sucker for the forlorn diesel sound.

Best regards, gene


I ran her enough,i think she is OK,it is very difficult to have bad luck again.The sounds are very nice but i have to say that i listened the most perfect sounds ever from an MTH ES44 General Electric that a friend bought.Simply amazing.Anyway i am huppy that i have my F7 running perfect now.ThumpUp
Offline BrandonVA  
#40 Posted : 22 December 2016 22:35:21(UTC)
BrandonVA

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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I have bad news for mine 39621 too.The first time i run the loco after one minute maybe less the loco stopped.I gave the loco to my dealer,he changed the decoder and the result was again the same,after one round game over.The locomotive went back to marklin.At least unacceptαble situation.I will let you know about the sollution of my problem.


Foumaro,

Are you operating it with a CS2 or CS3? Mine stopped after some driving, then I realized I had to set the "Play mode" to standard as the locomotive has mfx+ and thought it had ran out of fuel as I was not minding the cab operation. Maybe a different problem for you, but I thought it may help to note it here.

-Brandon
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Offline foumaro  
#41 Posted : 23 December 2016 04:45:52(UTC)
foumaro

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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I have bad news for mine 39621 too.The first time i run the loco after one minute maybe less the loco stopped.I gave the loco to my dealer,he changed the decoder and the result was again the same,after one round game over.The locomotive went back to marklin.At least unacceptαble situation.I will let you know about the sollution of my problem.


Foumaro,

Are you operating it with a CS2 or CS3? Mine stopped after some driving, then I realized I had to set the "Play mode" to standard as the locomotive has mfx+ and thought it had ran out of fuel as I was not minding the cab operation. Maybe a different problem for you, but I thought it may help to note it here.

-Brandon


Finally was more than a faulty decoder.Marklin gave me another one she is running like a dream.The best sollution from marklin and my dealer.LOL ThumpUp
Offline PierreGILLARD  
#42 Posted : 23 December 2016 18:52:21(UTC)
PierreGILLARD


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Great review and splendid pictures of both model and actual locomotives ! ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

Thanks Brandon.

Pierre.
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Offline mnosal  
#43 Posted : 21 February 2018 03:23:12(UTC)
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From the Marklin booth at the Amherst Railway Society show in West Springfield, MA Jan 26, 2018:

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Marklin 39621 F7

Really a standout locomotive and livery.

Cheers.
Z-scale, DRG steam from Era 2. See: zscale.tumblr.com
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Offline BrandonVA  
#44 Posted : 06 December 2018 16:12:22(UTC)
BrandonVA

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If proof is needed to run this A-A configuration along with Marklin friendly rainbow boxcars:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Marklin-HO/n-BLbDM/i-fBrKvNm/0/e04e7499/O/i-fBrKvNm.jpg

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Offline PMPeter  
#45 Posted : 06 December 2018 22:57:14(UTC)
PMPeter

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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
If proof is needed to run this A-A configuration along with Marklin friendly rainbow boxcars:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Marklin-HO/n-BLbDM/i-fBrKvNm/0/e04e7499/O/i-fBrKvNm.jpg



Interesting photo taken with Vancouver, BC, Canada and the north shore mountains in the background. The line is now a BNSF line and also has Amtrack running on it into Vancouver.

Any idea of the photo date?
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Offline BrandonVA  
#46 Posted : 13 December 2018 22:45:33(UTC)
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Unfortunately not. I normally like to post the data and location, but the site has neither.
I suspect late 1950s to early 1960s based on the colour of the rolling stock and also the cars that can be seen.

-Brandon
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