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Offline NS1200  
#1 Posted : 19 March 2012 20:57:03(UTC)
NS1200

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Recovered coaches of the TEE Ram dieseltrain parked at Amsterdam,awaiting restoration.
Unfortunately,the powered front unit is no longer there,possibly a new unit could be newly build,using the 3-axle bogies from a NS 1200 loco.
This train came back from Canada and was repainted in the red/cream TEE colors.



And TEE Ram in real life,when she was still young:



Paul.

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Offline Marty  
#2 Posted : 19 March 2012 22:47:34(UTC)
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Thanks for the link, Paul. The second TEE video is full of '60's style!BigGrin


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Offline Yumgui  
#3 Posted : 19 March 2012 23:09:17(UTC)
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Great vids Paul !

All the "creature comforts" shown in the 2nd film on the Co-Co train are still operable today, except for; the auto venetian blinds, the smart personnel uniforms, the grand chef cuisine and the hard drinks at the bar ... LOL

But still, this makes one realize that vanguard ideas of the past always end up the realities of the present; true for rail, air, space ... and home BigGrin

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Offline Piggy  
#4 Posted : 19 March 2012 23:54:51(UTC)
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Great video Paul, I really enjoy watching the TEE trains.
Regards
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Offline mike c  
#5 Posted : 20 March 2012 07:59:08(UTC)
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When I read "remains of TEE RAm", this video came to mind:


The horrible accident in Aitrang in 1971.

Regards

Mike C

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Offline Mark5  
#6 Posted : 20 March 2012 09:08:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Recovered coaches of the TEE Ram dieseltrain parked at Amsterdam,awaiting restoration.
Unfortunately,the powered front unit is no longer there,possibly a new unit could be newly build,using the 3-axle bogies from a NS 1200 loco.
This train came back from Canada and was repainted in the red/cream TEE colors.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMIKlYO1rY

And TEE Ram in real life,when she was still young:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=...HQ7KQ&feature=fvwrel

Paul.


The Second video was pretty impressive, and I actually got into the funky techno beat added on anachronistically.

The First video enjoyed too, although shorter, and baffled as to which train came back from Canada.
Do you have alternative photos of that particular train from the outside?
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Offline NS1200  
#7 Posted : 20 March 2012 17:48:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
When I read "remains of TEE RAm", this video came to mind:


The horrible accident in Aitrang in 1971.

Regards

Mike C



Yes,found this clip as well but noted there is copyright on it so i did not wish to bet my luck so to speak.
It is the only recorded accident with the TEE Ram dieseltrain as far as i know.
The train derailed because by mistake the locdriver was driving way too fast on that particular stretch of track.
It is reported that the TEE drove some 130 km/h !
Unfortunately,it ran into a local railbus which contributed to the high loss of lives,a total of 26 people died.
Very sad.

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline NS1200  
#8 Posted : 20 March 2012 18:01:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Recovered coaches of the TEE Ram dieseltrain parked at Amsterdam,awaiting restoration.
Unfortunately,the powered front unit is no longer there,possibly a new unit could be newly build,using the 3-axle bogies from a NS 1200 loco.
This train came back from Canada and was repainted in the red/cream TEE colors.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMIKlYO1rY

And TEE Ram in real life,when she was still young:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=...HQ7KQ&feature=fvwrel

Paul.


The Second video was pretty impressive, and I actually got into the funky techno beat added on anachronistically.

The First video enjoyed too, although shorter, and baffled as to which train came back from Canada.
Do you have alternative photos of that particular train from the outside?
- Mark


Mark,
It is not easy to find relevant information on internet but i will try later tonight,after dinner.
In Holland,there is a club which is sponsoring the restoration of that particular trainset,they have a website too.
What i do know is that one of the Ontario sets in Ontario colors was shipped on a Scancarriers RO-RO vessel to Hamburg some years back and that Maerklin was one of the sponsors.
I once was in Goppingen,hometown of Maerklin,and they were having the rough and neglected train on display at the station,i could even walk inside.
I even suspect that Maerklin were having in mind to restore it but apparently the plan was put in the fridge.
What i do recall is that the journey from Hamburg to its final resting place was rather cumbersome because the Canadian style couplers were causing the train to pull its brakes all the time.

The funky techno beat is by a german group called Kraftwerk,the actual piece of music is called 'Trans Europe Express',i am not joking!
Kraftwerk also made the famous musictrack called 'Autobahn' (=highway).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=...pgrQ&feature=related

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vkpwHx_Tj4

Speak to you later tonight.

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline Piggy  
#9 Posted : 20 March 2012 18:40:14(UTC)
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Regarding Kraftwerk here is a link to the original video for "Trans europe express"
on youtube, a very Mârklin relevant video, featuring the 3071 on M-tracksCool
Regards
Kenneth
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Offline NS1200  
#10 Posted : 20 March 2012 20:12:06(UTC)
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Another short clip of the ONR Northlander parked at an Amsterdam shuntingyard,note it is still partly in ONR colors!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=...9snE&feature=related

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 20 March 2012 20:14:51(UTC)
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Excellent videos, Thanks for the link.
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Offline NS1200  
#12 Posted : 20 March 2012 20:22:23(UTC)
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And,thanks to Wikipedia,found some pictures of the ONR units shipped to Hamburg in 1997 on oceanvessel 'Tampa'.
They were kept for months at Hamburg because the USA wheelrim type was not suitable for European tracks!
On 25/26th June 2006 they were pulled to Zwolle,The Netherlands.

Note the Maerklin logo on the sides!

www.northlander.de/galery.htm

Paul.

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Offline NS1200  
#13 Posted : 20 March 2012 20:31:25(UTC)
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And another excellent link about the Northlander and its return to Europe:

uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/RGodby/trains/northlander.htm

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline mike c  
#14 Posted : 20 March 2012 21:51:23(UTC)
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Aside from the accident in Aitrang, one of the RAm trainsets was also involved in a minor accident at Munich Bahnhof. For some reason, the power unit appeared to have contacted the buffers at the end of the track. I wonder how pleased the Swiss were by the treatment of their flagship trainsets by German (DB) pilots.
In Canada, one of the "Northlander" trainsets, already equipped with FP-7 diesel and a second locomotive, was involved in a collision with a freight train, causing extensive damage to the locomotives. AFAIR the coaches survived that incident intact.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Mark5  
#15 Posted : 21 March 2012 03:53:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Another short clip of the ONR Northlander parked at an Amsterdam shuntingyard,note it is still partly in ONR colors!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=...9snE&feature=related

Paul.


Whoa! ... so you mean the Northlanders were the origin of the the TEE???
Or was it the other way around, and is that the only one?
The colour melange of the Northlander getting painted red is something else!

When you said it was an Ontario train I was thinking of the GO train, which my father used to take everyday to work for years.
And anytime we went to Toronto from Burlington, we used to take it too.

Here is two clips that arent bad.
Each has a different kind of Locomotive on it.

and newer GO locomotive:

(wrt to the "cameo", by the way, actually seems to be a borrowed Amtrack train working for Via.)


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Offline Armando  
#16 Posted : 21 March 2012 04:21:41(UTC)
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Thanks for the videos, Mark!

When will Märklin release a retooled model of this wonderful train, in full 1:87 scale and metal???? One can always wish...
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline NS1200  
#17 Posted : 21 March 2012 06:52:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Another short clip of the ONR Northlander parked at an Amsterdam shuntingyard,note it is still partly in ONR colors!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=...9snE&feature=related

Paul.


Whoa! ... so you mean the Northlanders were the origin of the the TEE???
Or was it the other way around, and is that the only one?
The colour melange of the Northlander getting painted red is something else!

When you said it was an Ontario train I was thinking of the GO train, which my father used to take everyday to work for years.
And anytime we went to Toronto from Burlington, we used to take it too.

Here is two clips that arent bad.
Each has a different kind of Locomotive on it.

and newer GO locomotive:

(wrt to the "cameo", by the way, actually seems to be a borrowed Amtrack train working for Via.)




The original TEE Ram dieseltrains were sold to Canada in 1977,with a bit of luck you can find pictures on internet whereby the units have been freshly painted in the yellow Northlander colors before being shipped to Canada.
Some 20 years later one of the trains (without the motor coach) was shipped back to Europe,intention being to restore and repaint into TEE colors.
Because of the harsh winter conditions in Canada,the TEE motor units had a lot of breakdowns,as such they were replaced by F7 units.
The motor units were scrapped in Canada,and that is unfortunate because there are none left in Europe either.

Tee Ram dieseltrains in Europe came into service in 1964,i believe there were 5 trains in total,3 trains under the Swiss flag and 2 trains under the Dutch flag.

Cheers,
Paul.

Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline mike c  
#18 Posted : 21 March 2012 08:39:02(UTC)
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The RAm 501-502 (SBB) and DE 1001-1003 (NS) went into service in 1957 and remained in TEE service until 1974. One SBB trainset was destroyed in the accident in Aitrang, Germany in 1971. In 1977, the remaining four trainsets went into service between Toronto and Timmins/Cochrane as the Ontario Northland Railroad's Northlander.

Due to problems with maintenance and cold weather operations in Northern Ontario, the original power units were replaced by FP-7s. The original power units were later scrapped. The trainsets continued to operate with the GM Diesels until they were taken out of service. A Swiss association, TEE Classics with some Dutch help, bought the remaining coaches and had them shipped back to Europe. After a few years, they could no longer afford the maintenance and storage of the coaches, so they were moved to a location in Germany, where they nearly perished in a fire. They were finally moved to their current location in the Amsterdam area and a Dutch association has continued the restoration project. To date, they have not yet come up with a solution for the missing power unit. The most likely solution would involve transplanting the cab from one of the pilot coaches onto the body of a diesel locomotive that could be connected to the rest of the train.

I would think that a suitable painted multi system lok (maybe a Re 484/Traxx MS140 in TEE colours) could be placed in the middle of the trainset and operated from pilot cabs at the front and rear of the train, in a similar manner to the MOB Panoramic Express.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline NS1200  
#19 Posted : 21 March 2012 17:37:21(UTC)
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Northlander in Goppingen during Maerklin event some years back.

www.panoramio.com/photo/7535216

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline NS1200  
#20 Posted : 22 March 2012 21:22:02(UTC)
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Former TEE Ram freshly painted in Northlander colors in 1977,ready to be shipped out to Canada.
Twenty years later she came back,now at Amsterdam,partly in original TEE colors,awaiting further restoration.

http://farm1.static.flic...8322797_f77fdd3db2_b.jpg

Cheers,
Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline intruder  
#21 Posted : 22 March 2012 22:13:02(UTC)
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Thanks for all the interesting information and links, friends!
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline Wildrose-Wally  
#22 Posted : 18 July 2015 06:52:43(UTC)
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Once upon a time, Holland and Switzerland bought a train together.
Actually, Holland bought 3 and Switzerland bought 2, the engines were made in Holland and the coaches in Switzerland.
And with those trains they operated a service between Amsterdam and Zurich.

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One of the trains crashed in Germany and was scrapped.
These trains were diesel trains, and in time as the tracks in Europe were electrified, they became obsolete.
So four trains were sold to Canada, where they operated as the Ontario Northlander.

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Shortly after arriving in Canada, the numbers on the locs were changed, it seems CN already had engines with those numbers.

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These were nice trains, but the engines could not stand up to the Canadian winters. The Dutch motorcoaches were scrapped and replaced by the North American FP7Am.

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One of the trains crashed in Canada, from the leftover cars, five went back to Holland were they are being restored to full former glory in the original colours.
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Offline PJMärklin  
#23 Posted : 18 July 2015 07:30:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Recovered coaches of the TEE Ram dieseltrain parked at Amsterdam,awaiting restoration.
Unfortunately,the powered front unit is no longer there,possibly a new unit could be newly build,using the 3-axle bogies from a NS 1200 loco.
This train came back from Canada and was repainted in the red/cream TEE colors.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMIKlYO1rY

And TEE Ram in real life,when she was still young:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=...HQ7KQ&feature=fvwrel

Paul.


Hello Walter,

Thank you for posting these lovely images.

I have become very passionate about this train over the years. To my regret I did not realise the significance of the unit when produced by Marklin over the last 20 or more years.

2 years ago I bought on eBay a 3071 and have since been slowly accumulating the materials (and advice from our forum members re conversion) to convert it to a better-powered, digital version with interior details and lighting (watch this space)

Regards,

PJ

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Offline TrainIride  
#24 Posted : 18 July 2015 12:57:23(UTC)
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Hi everybody,

Thank you for sharing all there informations on this fabulous train ThumpUp .

Some more available there :
https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t30521-TEE-RAm-DE-4

And there :
https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t27117-DE-4-TEE

And on my layout RollEyes , running analog in complete original state :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIEAC6ACoo


Best regards
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Offline NS1200  
#25 Posted : 18 July 2015 13:55:57(UTC)
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I used to have the 3471 in my collection,and sold it.
The 3471 has interior as opposed to the 3071.
It is a nice train to have but i found the couplings between the coaches rather unhandy.

Note the motor coach has a full metal hood,the other coaches have a plastic hood.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline NS1200  
#26 Posted : 30 July 2015 20:32:25(UTC)
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Found in a Youtube clip Ein Jahr mit Marklin (One year with Marklin) for the year 1998.
The shipping of the recovered coaches on vessel Tampa to Hamburg.
Note the Marklin stickers on the train.
As from 37.20 to 43.00 minutes in the clip.

Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline jcrtrains  
#27 Posted : 30 July 2015 20:46:00(UTC)
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Some great old pictures of the Northlander and of parts of Canada. The third picture up in the July 18th post with the large low white building and the parking lot is the Royal Bank of Canada data center. The building is still there but core parts of the data center have moved out. The parking lot and most of the rest of that area are now high rise condos.
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Offline michelvr  
#28 Posted : 31 July 2015 00:40:48(UTC)
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Here is a link to more information on the Ontario Northlander.

http://www.uwyo.edu/rgodby/trains/northlander.htm

Michel
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Offline Wildrose-Wally  
#29 Posted : 01 April 2018 15:23:36(UTC)
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Once upon a time, Holland and Switzerland bought a train together.
Actually, Holland bought 3 and Switzerland bought 2, the engines were made in Holland and the coaches in Switzerland.
And with those trains they operated a service between Amsterdam and Zurich.

UserPostedImage
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One of the trains crashed in Germany and was scrapped.
These trains were diesel trains, and in time as the tracks in Europe were electrified, they became obsolete.
So four trains were sold to Canada, where they operated as the Ontario Northlander.

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Shortly after arriving in Canada, the numbers on the locs were changed, it seems CN already had engines with those numbers.

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These were nice trains, but the engines could not stand up to the Canadian winters. The Dutch motorcoaches were scrapped and replaced by the North American FP7Am.

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One of the trains crashed in Canada, from the leftover cars, five went back to Holland were they are being restored to full former glory in the original colours.

Meanwhile back in Ontario the Northlander (Toronto to Cochrane), using North American rolling stock, continued till 2012 and was then replaced with a bus service. Passenger service in Northern Ontario continues with the Polar Bear Express (Cochrane to Moosonee) with essentially the same equipment the Northlander used.

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#30 Posted : 24 December 2020 10:33:54(UTC)
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Translated from Dutch to English:

TEE Foundation

Dear friends and all those who have a warm heart for the Trans Europ Express Netherlands Foundation.

It will not really surprise you that with the TEE Foundation, partly due to all the Corona perils as well as the health of our chairman, our plans for the restoration of the Trans Europ Express train have run into problems both organizationally and financially.

Our beautiful plans were literally in danger of falling apart. But as is so often the case, it is better to turn the tide, if you can, than to go on without perspective for too long. In addition, we have to leave the current location in Lelystad at Jol 13-02 - which we share with the Transport Museum Lelystad Foundation (TML) - this year because our really benevolent landlord could no longer keep it up for so little income.

In short, we were faced with a dilemma a few months ago and we already came into contact with the Netherlands Transport Museum Foundation (NTM) in Nieuw Vennep, chaired by Arno van der Holst. We were able to make a good and responsible agreement with him to transfer a few more ideals to be realized - some of which have already been realized by us - which have been laid down in the statutes of the TEE Foundation to the NTM Foundation.

This means that definitive steps have now been taken to transfer the ownership of the entire TEE train to the NTM Foundation. This foundation will transport the TEE train, which is currently still in Amsterdam, to Nieuw Vennep where the NTM Foundation is located.

A start will be made there in the foreseeable future on the restoration of the TEE train, so that it will eventually be visible to the public.

Unfortunately, the foregoing also means that we will have to close the Trans Europ Express Netherlands Foundation in the short term because the goal for which it was established can no longer be pursued.

It remains to thank everyone who supported us all these years and had faith in us that we would achieve the intended goals. Unfortunately, we did not fully succeed, but we can still look back on a good time, which we were able to experience together and with the necessary volunteers.

Although the TEE Foundation will be disbanded, the Lelystad Transport Museum Foundation (TML) - which also has to leave Jol 13-02 - will continue to exist and we will keep everyone informed of any developments via our TML website or otherwise.

Sincerely
The board of
Trans Europ Express Netherlands Foundation

https://www.facebook.com/StichtingTEE

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#31 Posted : 25 December 2020 06:40:43(UTC)
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Offline QQQ1970  
#32 Posted : 27 December 2020 21:07:00(UTC)
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I find it ironic Märklin 2020 Insider model features RAm 501 that crashed in Germany. I am almost certain Marlin will release a Northlander version in the near future to recoup the tooling expense, and then a further RAm with a different road number.
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#33 Posted : 27 December 2020 22:08:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Go to Quoted Post
I find it ironic Märklin 2020 Insider model features RAm 501 that crashed in Germany. I am almost certain Marlin will release a Northlander version in the near future to recoup the tooling expense, and then a further RAm with a different road number.


I also wouldn't be surprised to see it issued as a Nurnberg Messe model in a couple of years.

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#34 Posted : 27 December 2020 22:12:57(UTC)
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What is Nurnberg Messe model?

I think there may be a NS version with different road number NS 1001, 1002 or 1003.
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#35 Posted : 28 December 2020 05:55:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Go to Quoted Post
I find it ironic Märklin 2020 Insider model features RAm 501 that crashed in Germany. I am almost certain Marklin will release a Northlander version in the near future to recoup the tooling expense, and then a further RAm with a different road number.


The Ram 501 was involved in the collision in 1971. Prior to that, it ran from 1957 to 1971 as the TEE "Edelweiss". This model represents one of the two SBB trainsets, so it was either going to be 501 or 502. The model is Era III, representing the train around 1959, so 12 years before the accident.

At some point, Märklin might release a model of one of the Dutch DE 1001-1003. It would require some tooling modifications to make a model of the Northlander, so I would presume that it may be the last on the list. The Dutch version would be a simple repaint of the original model.

I am very pleased with the model. I am a little concerned that the couplings may not be as durable as intended. I was also a little consternated that the coupling assist tool did not fit between the rails and was a little more difficult than expected to remove once the coaches were coupled.

I think that I am happy with what I have and probably would not buy a second of these.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline mike c  
#36 Posted : 28 December 2020 05:57:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
I used to have the 3471 in my collection,and sold it.
The 3471 has interior as opposed to the 3071.
It is a nice train to have but i found the couplings between the coaches rather unhandy.

Note the motor coach has a full metal hood,the other coaches have a plastic hood.


My brother has the 3071. I have the 3471 and the 39706. Only the newest model is metal. The 3471, 3071 and 3070 all had plastic shells.

Regards

Mike C

Offline mario54i  
#37 Posted : 28 December 2020 14:27:09(UTC)
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Is it by chance that many Northlander with F7 appeared on ebay these days ?
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#38 Posted : 28 December 2020 14:33:33(UTC)
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More items on ebay around holiday seasons in general. I was able to find some hard to find items in the past.

But you could be right.
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