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I thought we were not allowed to deal with 2017 items until received - under penalty of death.  Am I missing something?  |
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I see no headlights above those buffers, could it be the (for me) long awaited BR42? (kriegslok)  If so, an era 2 version is ordered immediately... Bert
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From the CS3 v1.1 Changelog ...
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Lokicons
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If you have a pre- v1.1 CS3 you might scan for easter eggs ...
Peter, I think you might have this in the wrong thread, but I'm not sure which CS3 thread you want it in...../BDNZ |
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Originally Posted by: clapcott  From the CS3 v1.1 Changelog ...
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Lokicons
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If you have a pre- v1.1 CS3 you might scan for easter eggs ...
Peter, I think you might have this in the wrong thread, but I'm not sure which CS3 thread you want it in...../BDNZ I would have said this is the correct thread, after all it is about icons of items not yet released ... i.e. as in 2017 items ...
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Just rumour would be new tooling BR42.
Marklin made BR42.90 but no BR42. |
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Sneak preview!
FOUR New models for 2017.
BR42 was the new model for 2017. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Sneak preview!
FOUR New models for 2017.
BR42 was the new model for 2017. Oh, so where is the sneak preview, your facebook page is closing down.
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I assume a PKP version of the BR42 is wishful thinking... |
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Originally Posted by: Leitner I assume a PKP version of the BR42 is wishful thinking... You are probably right, but!!! I 'll go for 1 (one), maybe 2 (two) I have a PKP diesel and cars, but nothing else. I passed on several passenger cars by LS and acme, kept forgetting to order. Anyway lets keep hoping  Regards, gene Edited by user 09 January 2017 20:32:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Leitner I assume a PKP version of the BR42 is wishful thinking... They have made Russian versions of German steamers, so a PKP version of a German steamer is not impossible. The priority for a PKP will probably be rather low. Class 42 faced early retirement with DB, DR, and ÖBB. I think this increases the likelihood of a PKP version as only few livery variations are possible for the DE/AT main market. |
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The news of Märklin are decoder in the Märklin three rail locomotive.
Now Märklin this time will present DCC protocol too by use with three rail tracks.
I´m pretty sure Märklin will not change the system of the K tracks.
Still same like in all years...
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The list
29468 Start set "Green Cargo" MS2 with DHG500 + 3 freight cars UVP
29474 Start set "Belgian" MS2 with Vectron + 2 Dopplestockwagen UVP
29400 Start set "Freight DB" MS2 140 +4 freight cars UVP
39549 Robel 54.22 DB UVP 360€
39548 Roble BLS Tm235 UVP UVP 380€
39547 Robel OBB X630 UVP UVP 380€
39082 VT08.5 TEE 4 units UVP 650€
39043 DB BR42 Ep III 42 555 UVP 390€
39042 DB BR42 EPII 42 1417 sound UVP 450€
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Might be interested in the Br42, if only to add to my collection of decapods. Br50, Br52, Br44 and now Br42. |
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Is the Robel the Viessmann one? It sure looks like it, with the figures in the exact same position and everything.
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Is the Robel the Viessmann one? It sure looks like it, with the figures in the exact same position and everything. Yes it's Viessman From Marklin.de: Produktinfo Dieses Produkt entstand in Kooperation mit der Firma Viessmann Modellspielwaren GmbH. |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Dieses Produkt entstand in Kooperation mit der Firma Viessmann Modellspielwaren GmbH. Well, okay. Perhaps it is me, but I find these re-runs of other manufacturers models (which is btw. still available) unnecessary. I would much rather that they did not do that. But perhaps I am just an old fart...
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Well, okay. Perhaps it is me, but I find these re-runs of other manufacturers models (which is btw. still available) unnecessary. It's a win/win situation: more profit for Märklin, more profit for Viessmann, more new items in Märklin's new items brochure. Some true Märklin fäns would never buy rolling stock from Fleichmann, Viessmann, or Tillig. But they buy "Märklin" items made by other companies. Usually these co-operations are no re-runs, but at least livery variations. They offer items for sale and we choose what we buy. And they try new ways. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Originally Posted by: vilithejou Dieses Produkt entstand in Kooperation mit der Firma Viessmann Modellspielwaren GmbH. Well, okay. Perhaps it is me, but I find these re-runs of other manufacturers models (which is btw. still available) unnecessary. I would much rather that they did not do that. But perhaps I am just an old fart... Hold on with the old fart. It appears to have a lot more tech on this model, than offered before? It appears to have a working crane , as in it has motors and MFX+ If so I would like one of these:-) See - http://www.bahnonline.ch...in-h0-neuheiten-2017.htmIt may be wrong. But I think it must be. Better. Otherwise what's the point, as you say👍 |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou The list
29468 Start set "Green Cargo" MS2 with DHG500 + 3 freight cars UVP
29474 Start set "Belgian" MS2 with Vectron + 2 Dopplestockwagen UVP
29400 Start set "Freight DB" MS2 140 +4 freight cars UVP
39549 Robel 54.22 DB UVP 360€
39548 Roble BLS Tm235 UVP UVP 380€
39547 Robel OBB X630 UVP UVP 380€
39082 VT08.5 TEE 4 units UVP 650€
39043 DB BR42 Ep III 42 555 UVP 390€
39042 DB BR42 EPII 42 1417 sound UVP 450€
00722 OOtz44 24 units Erzwagen UVP 33€/u. Seven 2017 new items just on Marklin database English online. >00722<>39042<>39043<>39082<>39547<>39548<>39549< |
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The latest information seems to show that 39042 and 39043 are both Era III. 39042 has sound and mfx+; 39043 other does not. |
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More starter set.
29184 H0 (Digital) StartUp Startset Baustelle
MYworld starter set.
29308 H0 MyWorld Startset Landwirtschaft
29309 H0 MyWorld Startset Güterzug (Akkubetrieb)
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I really like the ROBEL 39549 DB version and it would look great at my track construction site. It is, however, quite pricey. Peter. 
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I like the look of the BR42 and possibly VT 08.5
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Originally Posted by: RayF The latest information seems to show that 39042 and 39043 are both Era III. 39042 has sound and mfx+; 39043 other does not. Dunno... but... Does it really make sense to release two identical locomotives (except for the road numbers), one with the full palette of sounds and the other without? Who in this day and age would want to settle for a new tooling locomotive without sounds? I understand that this may be intended for those who will want to run their trains double-headed. However, wouldn't it be more fun to have two different series in tandem, say BR 42 and BR 44, each playing out their full sounds? I fail to see it. Moreover, I've seen these versions without sounds show up during sales at reduced prices, one year or two after they were released. I assume that they do not really sell that well. I think that it would totally have made more sense to have released both a DRG era II and a DB era III, each with full sounds. |
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I guess full 2017 new items show up on Marklin database next Friday 13th (lucky 13th I hope). |
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Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: RayF The latest information seems to show that 39042 and 39043 are both Era III. 39042 has sound and mfx+; 39043 other does not. Dunno... but... Does it really make sense to release two identical locomotives (except for the road numbers), one with the full palette of sounds and the other without? Who in this day and age would want to settle for a new tooling locomotive without sounds? I understand that this may be intended for those who will want to run their trains double-headed. However, wouldn't it be more fun to have two different series in tandem, say BR 42 and BR 44, each playing out their full sounds? I fail to see it. Moreover, I've seen these versions without sounds show up during sales at reduced prices, one year or two after they were released. I assume that they do not really sell that well. I think that it would totally have made more sense to have released both a DRG era II and a DB era III, each with full sounds. Other manufacturers do the same, producing sound and non-sound versions of the same loco. Brawa is an example that comes to mind. I am actually looking at buying the non-sound version of the Br42. I've done this before with other new locos that give me the option. I get tired of hearing the chuff chuff sound on my locos and often run then silent anyway, so I can save myself 60 Euros or so by doing this. |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: steventrain Sneak preview!
FOUR New models for 2017.
BR42 was the new model for 2017. Oh, so where is the sneak preview, your facebook page is closing down. I decide to cancelled closing facebook.  |
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Some more 2017 New Items, this time 1 Gauge items (since we never seem to talk about them). All are variants on the V188 Diesel Locomotive 55284552855528655287552885528955288 
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I'm interested in the BR 42, with sound. |
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman It may be wrong. But I think it must be. Better. Otherwise what's the point, as you say👍 You're right. It does indeed look like they have made some changes to the model. This would make it better than just a "re-run". I have seen both the BLS and the ÖBB as Viessmann new items. Can't remember where though, but they are on Google images.
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Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: RayF The latest information seems to show that 39042 and 39043 are both Era III. 39042 has sound and mfx+; 39043 other does not. Dunno... but... Does it really make sense to release two identical locomotives (except for the road numbers), one with the full palette of sounds and the other without? Who in this day and age would want to settle for a new tooling locomotive without sounds? I understand that this may be intended for those who will want to run their trains double-headed. However, wouldn't it be more fun to have two different series in tandem, say BR 42 and BR 44, each playing out their full sounds? I fail to see it. Moreover, I've seen these versions without sounds show up during sales at reduced prices, one year or two after they were released. I assume that they do not really sell that well. I think that it would totally have made more sense to have released both a DRG era II and a DB era III, each with full sounds. Those without sounds are done for the 'shelf queen' market. I had this discussion with Dieter Lorenz from Marklin when the Insider Big Boy was first released, and he pointed out that they could add 10% to the loco run by having a Delta version of it for the 'shelf queen' market. I guess there will also be a segment that would by a loco without sound as a running item as well, but it will be a case of wait for them to come on cheap and get an ESU decoder with Br42 sounds and off you go.
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Originally Posted by: petestra I really like the ROBEL 39549 DB version and it would look great at my track construction site. It is, however, quite pricey. Peter. Yes, and having three in one year may mean there are excess stocks at the end of year to be quit ... 
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 Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Some more 2017 New Items, this time 1 Gauge items (since we never seem to talk about them). All are variants on the V188 Diesel Locomotive 552845528555286552875528855289 Only 15.600 EURO if you want all 6. Per. |
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Only 15.600 EURO if you want all 6. Only 13010 euro for me as I don't have to pay VAT, but on that value I'd have to pay GST when they arrived!
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I will wait for the rest new items.With all the above my wallet is safe. 
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So far nothing interesting... |
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I have BR42 on order.
19% less RRP price if log in at lokshop website.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain I have BR42 on order.
19% less RRP price if log in at lokshop website.
With o without sound? or both? :-) |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain I have BR42 on order.
19% less RRP price if log in at lokshop website.
With o without sound? or both? :-) 39042 sound Price 364 EUR |
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Delivery planned dates. BR42 is in production.
00722 - Q1
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MYworld starter set.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain MYworld starter set.
29308 H0 MyWorld Startset Landwirtschaft
29309 H0 MyWorld Startset Güterzug (Akkubetrieb)
29330 H0 MyWorld Startset ICE
29331 H0 MyWorld Startset Santa Fe I know they are designed as play things for small children, but some of those, especially the last one, are 'plug ugly' !!!
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Originally Posted by: RayF Might be interested in the Br42, if only to add to my collection of decapods. Br50, Br52, Br44 and now Br42. No BR 58 in the collection? |
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Originally Posted by: pab Originally Posted by: RayF Might be interested in the Br42, if only to add to my collection of decapods. Br50, Br52, Br44 and now Br42. No BR 58 in the collection? No, not yet. I also wanted a Br56 but that seems to have slipped the net too! Honestly I'm having trouble justifying more locos for my collection. I now have 155, soon to be 156, and I'm struggling with storage space. |
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