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Offline laalves  
#1 Posted : 14 October 2008 01:24:13(UTC)
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As of today, I'm also fed up with Märklin quality.

I left it idle, with Stop on. No consumers on, nothing going on.

Suddenly, the familiar burning electronics smell, screen out, lights out. That's it. Dead.
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Offline Caplin  
#2 Posted : 14 October 2008 01:32:23(UTC)
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Very sorry for you, Luís. Hope it will be solved very soon.
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Offline David Dewar  
#3 Posted : 14 October 2008 01:34:51(UTC)
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Luis That is terrible. I feel really sorry for you. Having purchased the CS2 and supported Marklin you have been badly let down. Hopefully your dealer will replace.

I had been hopeful that Marklin had tried to turn the corner and start producing some quality controller but it looks like we are back to where we were.

Keep us up to date my friend and be assusred you have support although from afar.

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Offline intruder  
#4 Posted : 14 October 2008 01:59:59(UTC)
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Sorry to hear that, Luís.

I really hope you get it sortet very quickly.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline Davy  
#5 Posted : 14 October 2008 02:23:50(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves
<br />As of today, I'm also fed up with Märklin quality.

I left it idle, with Stop on. No consumers on, nothing going on.

Suddenly, the familiar burning electronics smell, screen out, lights out. That's it. Dead.


Is nothing els kaput. If so their was a peak in the voltage.

M-track with a CS2.
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Offline nevw  
#6 Posted : 14 October 2008 02:27:34(UTC)
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Luis,
I hope you get a replacement fast.
Put a UPS between the Power outlet and the CS. I have that on the layout and another on my computer.
they are an absolute necessity .

Nev
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Offline laalves  
#7 Posted : 14 October 2008 02:41:45(UTC)
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Well, I actually have an APC UPS feeding all transformers, all of them Märklin 60052. Nothing wrong there.

I can only speculate this was some internal component that failed. When I turn it off and back on, it will start, turn on the red light, flash the screen and all off again. The stupid thing just died with no apparent reason.
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Offline mmervine  
#8 Posted : 14 October 2008 03:38:59(UTC)
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Luis:

I am sorry to hear about your CS2. I hope that you get a replacement soon.

r/mark
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Offline jeehring  
#9 Posted : 14 October 2008 04:01:32(UTC)
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That's electronics : fail at the beginning or ...never !
May be because CS2 doesn't like to be used as a PC . She needs a layout with miniature trains...After all , it's a train controler [}:)]
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Offline laalves  
#10 Posted : 14 October 2008 04:07:46(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
<br />That's electronics : fail at the beginning or ...never !
May be because CS2 doesn't like to be used as a PC . She needs a layout with miniature trains...After all , it's a train controler [}:)]


I didn't install Office in it biggrin.

It had been controlling an E40 and BR18.4 30 min earlier and then left in Stop mode.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#11 Posted : 14 October 2008 04:25:58(UTC)
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Märklin obviously have not worked out how to stop the smoke escaping from their controllers. Smoke is meant to flow inside the box, not outside of it!

That's sad news Luis, considering all the good money you paid for the CS2. I hope Märklin does not have a high failure rate with the CS2. I hope it gets fixed quickly for you.
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Offline jeehring  
#12 Posted : 14 October 2008 04:32:30(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
<br />That's electronics : fail at the beginning or ...never !
May be because CS2 doesn't like to be used as a PC . She needs a layout with miniature trains...After all , it's a train controler [}:)]


I didn't install Office in it biggrin.

It had been controlling an E40 and BR18.4 30 min earlier and then left in Stop mode.


[8)]That was just because , on the other thread you have yourself mentionned you have not operating layout...[8)]
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Offline laalves  
#13 Posted : 14 October 2008 05:44:58(UTC)
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Not having an operating layout does not preclude from having:

1 - A partially operating partially made layout;

and/or

2 - A carpet layout.

I have both...
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Offline kgsjoqvist  
#14 Posted : 14 October 2008 10:40:18(UTC)
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It is actually the smoke that keep all electronic items running. When the smoke comes out, they don't work anymore....

Well - this is not a good sign for the quality of CS2, but I hope you get it replaced very soon and that this is not a very common problem. A streak of bad luck!
K-G / H0 and Z model train user
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Offline tekin65  
#15 Posted : 14 October 2008 10:43:16(UTC)
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Hi Luis,

I'm so sorry to hear about your new CS2.

Have you had any responses yet - will they replace it? And, any response on the cause?

Cem.
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Offline RayF  
#16 Posted : 14 October 2008 11:30:48(UTC)
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck, Luis.

Hope you get a replacement soon, and that it's not a repeating problem!

Ray
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Offline Guus  
#17 Posted : 14 October 2008 12:06:40(UTC)
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Very sorry to hear this Luis.

Hope Märklin and or your dealer will solve the problem quickly.

Kind regards
Guus
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Offline mvd71  
#18 Posted : 14 October 2008 12:22:04(UTC)
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Sorry to hear this, I hope for your's and Marklin's sake it is an isolated incident.

Cheers...

Mike.
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Offline laalves  
#19 Posted : 14 October 2008 12:23:32(UTC)
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Thanks guys. I don't think I'll be able to get a new one soon since both my dealer and Märklin are out of stock....

Either way, I'll take it back to the dealer later in the morning.
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Offline mjrallare  
#20 Posted : 14 October 2008 15:02:45(UTC)
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I'm also sorry to hear this Luis. Hope everything turns out OK. Although I've had many problems with Märklin during the last years, they always solve the problems one way or the other. I'm sure they will replace your CS2. But you'll still have to be without it for a while, and that can be irritating enough...

Keep us updated!

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Offline jeehring  
#21 Posted : 14 October 2008 15:17:11(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves
<br />Thanks guys. I don't think I'll be able to get a new one soon since both my dealer and Märklin are out of stock....

Either way, I'll take it back to the dealer later in the morning.


"out of stock " for sale doesn't mean "out of stock" for replacement or repairs...
Hope , you'll get a new one sooner than you expect...
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Offline Macfire  
#22 Posted : 14 October 2008 15:58:39(UTC)
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Hang in there Luis.
BTW thanks very much for your input, I do appreciate it.
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Offline steventrain  
#23 Posted : 14 October 2008 16:22:09(UTC)
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Sorry to hear that, Luis.

Better to replacement it.Smile
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Offline Frostie  
#24 Posted : 14 October 2008 16:25:46(UTC)
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Sorry to hear about your problem Luis !!

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#25 Posted : 14 October 2008 17:32:55(UTC)
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Sorry to hear this I was hoping these problems were in the past.

I think the architecture of having a computer and a booster/controller in one box is all wrong. The controller should be nothing but a computer sending low voltage signals to a booster that powers the track with a protective feed back circuit.
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Offline laalves  
#26 Posted : 14 October 2008 17:40:38(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85
<br />Sorry to hear this I was hoping these problems were in the past.

I think the architecture of having a computer and a booster/controller in one box is all wrong. The controller should be nothing but a computer sending low voltage signals to a booster that powers the track with a protective feed back circuit.


Mmmm, yes in fact, I'm considering doing away with my Delta booster for accessories and using the CS2 only for that purpose. Then use separate boosters for track services. Derailing trains are more frequent and liable to cause problems than accessories.
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Offline fvri  
#27 Posted : 14 October 2008 17:59:27(UTC)
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Hi Luis,

Indeed very bad luck! What can I say..., hopefully you get soon a replacement. But, as mentioned before in this topic unfortunately electronics can fail at first startup. It happened to me several times with different products. Hopefully you still have a backup controller to control your layout!

Best regards,
Frank
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#28 Posted : 14 October 2008 18:08:11(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85
<br />Sorry to hear this I was hoping these problems were in the past.

I think the architecture of having a computer and a booster/controller in one box is all wrong. The controller should be nothing but a computer sending low voltage signals to a booster that powers the track with a protective feed back circuit.


Mmmm, yes in fact, I'm considering doing away with my Delta booster for accessories and using the CS2 only for that purpose. Then use separate boosters for track services. Derailing trains are more frequent and liable to cause problems than accessories.


Did you have any derailments while using the CS2?
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Offline laalves  
#29 Posted : 14 October 2008 18:12:43(UTC)
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Actually no, this was just a consideration because they do happen and those events may impose a heavier demand upon any controller.
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#30 Posted : 14 October 2008 19:47:27(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves
<br />As of today, I'm also fed up with Märklin quality.
I left it idle, with Stop on. No consumers on, nothing going on.
Suddenly, the familiar burning electronics smell, screen out, lights out. That's it. Dead.

Sorry for you, my dear friend [:(] ... and thanks for your fair warning, Luis Cool
New M isn't able to make an reliable controller, anyway ... [}:)]

Will save the money for locos and stay with my excellent CU6021s Smile[^]
Yep - got two 6021s biggrin. Never trusted those rookie dairy farmers with no idea about MRR [xx(][xx(][xx(]
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Offline Renato  
#31 Posted : 14 October 2008 20:37:59(UTC)
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Hi Luis,

Sorry for you. I hope you will solve ASAP your problem.
Even if there is a short circuit on the track, the electronic circuit MUST be protected and switch off the electric supply to the track.
It is not normal the electronics go out of service.

Bye

Renato
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#32 Posted : 14 October 2008 20:46:58(UTC)
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Sounds like a burnt inverter card (display related, keeps the backlight burning - ehh.. I mean on...) to me... We've had under-dimensioned such in our mobile computers too and it sounds like a very similar problem...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline ciric  
#33 Posted : 14 October 2008 21:26:43(UTC)
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Hello everybody, Greetings for all
First, Sorry for Luis.
Second, My CS2 don´t work no burn but,after restoring the program reset.tgz the cs2 tell me this menssage:
"there is no track format processor available.
you cannot run locomotives and control solenoid acessories wit".
I did the one ultimate update but is equal.
Help me plese if you can.
Sorry for my english!
Greetings for all.
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Offline laalves  
#34 Posted : 14 October 2008 21:40:55(UTC)
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<br />Hello everybody, Greetings for all
First, Sorry for Luis.
Second, My CS2 don´t work no burn but,after restoring the program reset.tgz the cs2 tell me this menssage:
"there is no track format processor available.
you cannot run locomotives and control solenoid acessories wit".
I did the one ultimate update but is equal.
Help me plese if you can.
Sorry for my english!
Greetings for all.


Olá ciric,

I saw a guy in stummi with the same problem. The CS2 had to be returned because that is a hardware malfunction... [V]

Where did you get yours from? Comboioselectricos.com? I have just returned mine, waiting for a new one...
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Offline David Dewar  
#35 Posted : 14 October 2008 21:51:32(UTC)
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Hi Ciric. welcome to the forum and sorry to hear about your new CS2.
It is beginning to sound like this new effort at a controller is far from good.
Thankfully I did not order one and i hope your problen can be solved.

David
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#36 Posted : 14 October 2008 22:06:36(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves
<br />Well, I actually have an APC UPS feeding all transformers, all of them Märklin 60052. Nothing wrong there.



UPS - Now that is a great idea - having standby power to properly Park your trains after a power outage !


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Offline ciric  
#37 Posted : 15 October 2008 00:27:53(UTC)
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oi Luis
yes comboioselectricos.com
I spoke with Paulo A. but he is going to contact the services of marklin.
I had feeling already that some firmwere is absent.
that is a bug??
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Offline ciric  
#38 Posted : 15 October 2008 00:38:15(UTC)
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<br />Hi Ciric. welcome to the forum and sorry to hear about your new CS2.
It is beginning to sound like this new effort at a controller is far from good.
Thankfully I did not order one and i hope your problen can be solved.

David


Yes David
it is early to buy one cs2
The old 6021 is the best.[:(]
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#39 Posted : 15 October 2008 01:45:02(UTC)
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<br />oi Luis
I had feeling already that some firmwere is absent.



It looks like...

Before the reset how was it? What happenned on screen : some parts already missing ? What was wrong : CS2 didn't work or Trains only didn't work ?
Strange . Sorry for you .
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Offline laalves  
#40 Posted : 15 October 2008 01:50:03(UTC)
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After checking the transformer output (17.36 VAC @ no load), replaced the CS2 (returned to the dealer) with my CS1 and everything is fine.

Conclusion: I like the CS2 way, way more... [:(]
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#41 Posted : 15 October 2008 02:25:41(UTC)
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<br />oi Luis
I had feeling already that some firmwere is absent.



It looks like...

Before the reset how was it? What happenned on screen : some parts already missing ? What was wrong : CS2 didn't work or Trains only didn't work ?
Strange . Sorry for you .


yes the central works but the trains and the selenoides do not work
I can plan, i can make updetes but the menssagem when I start the cs2 is always same."There is no track format processor available
you cannot run locomotives and control solenoid accessories wit"
I think that he fault some software in order that the processor makes working.
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Offline laalves  
#42 Posted : 15 October 2008 03:02:54(UTC)
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Ciric,

Have you tried to update the firmware via the Internet?

What is your software version?
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#43 Posted : 15 October 2008 03:06:43(UTC)
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<br />Ciric,

Have you tried to update the firmware via the Internet?

What is your software version?


yes I did the updating of the software it is to 1.0.5(3)
Hardware version 3.1
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#44 Posted : 15 October 2008 03:17:48(UTC)
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<br />Ciric,

Have you tried to update the firmware via the Internet?

What is your software version?


yes I did the updating of the software it is to 1.0.5(3)
Hardware version 3.1


Did you try to run the update again? Other than that, I don't see much else to do than return it... It will join mine, which is already with Paulo, ready to ship back to Märklin.

His own demo unit is not in good shape either: if you turn the RH knob, the loco edit menu pops up and all sort of strange things happen. it will have to be shipped back also. He sold 7 of 8 he received, kept the partially defective one as a demo. Of eight, 3 are down already. Doesn't look very good.
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#45 Posted : 15 October 2008 03:34:23(UTC)
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<br />Ciric,

Have you tried to update the firmware via the Internet?

What is your software version?


yes I did the updating of the software it is to 1.0.5(3)
Hardware version 3.1


Did you try to run the update again? Other than that, I don't see much else to do than return it... It will join mine, which is already with Paulo, ready to ship back to Märklin.

His own demo unit is not in good shape either: if you turn the RH knob, the loco edit menu pops up and all sort of strange things happen. it will have to be shipped back also. He sold 7 of 8 he received, kept the partially defective one as a demo. Of eight, 3 are down already. Doesn't look very good.


I am going to wait up to tomorrow and see what he says after having contacted the service marklin.
The cs 2 worked perfectly up to having done the load back-up of reset
"reset.tgz", this works with linux,and it is lacking in the site of the marklin the necessary downloads for everything working.
I think that he is a bug or breaks down in the processor, I repaired also that the current does not bring the line near.
So the circuit of processing is not working, since the program is lacking of firmewre.
it needs to load again the firmwere to work, and if the marklin had from now the program online it was only to do the download and promptly, i think!..
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#46 Posted : 15 October 2008 10:27:03(UTC)
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Before all of this heartbreak was written I had decided to order a CS2, however after reading all of this heartbreak and major problems I cancelled the order and will wait for the Dust to settle and for CS2.2 to appear. then it may be safe to buy. No way would one buy one now when warranty is requuired it is so many weeks/months away and also expensive to post.

from the posts in various topics there is only one perfect CS2 and that is owned by Lutz.

PS: the potential arrival of a new CS1 (as quoted in another post) was not the reason for cancelling the CS2 order. Lots of potential grief was the reason&gt; [:(][:(]
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
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#47 Posted : 15 October 2008 11:10:05(UTC)
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Fair call Nev. Upgrade your CS1 when the v3.0 upgrade is available, and let the dust settle around the CS2. Buy a CS2 when the price drops and the software version is at 1.5, or maybe 2.2!

Maybe you could make Lutz an offer for his perfect CS2, that way you could be sure that nothing would ever break on it.

Hope Mike is not too upset about you cancelling your order.
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#48 Posted : 15 October 2008 12:20:36(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Fair call Nev. Upgrade your CS1 when the v3.0 upgrade is available, and let the dust settle around the CS2. Buy a CS2 when the price drops and the software version is at 1.5, or maybe 2.2!



Hope Mike is not too upset about you cancelling your order.


Hope not but should have no problems moving it. (I hope)
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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#49 Posted : 15 October 2008 13:15:10(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Before all of this heartbreak was written I had decided to order a CS2, however after reading all of this heartbreak and major problems I cancelled the order and will wait for the Dust to settle and for CS2.2 to appear. then it may be safe to buy. ....


I am not going to say I told you so, then then I DID tell you so!!! biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Really don't believe that Marklin know how to test properly... Playing with something at room temperature using the German language settings is not a good way to test a product. Hey Juhan and Damon!!!!biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
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#50 Posted : 15 October 2008 13:17:04(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Before all of this heartbreak was written I had decided to order a CS2, however after reading all of this heartbreak and major problems I cancelled the order and will wait for the Dust to settle and for CS2.2 to appear. then it may be safe to buy. ....


I am not going to say I told you so, then then I DID tell you so!!! biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin


you did so you did so.
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and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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