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Offline Steamer01  
#1 Posted : 25 October 2016 08:46:16(UTC)
Steamer01

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Yesterday (24-10-2016) there was a new update for the CS3 Plus and after installing this update (GUI) nothing is working anymore. No lay-out anymore; no locs; no signals, no menu; no possability for reset.
Only a white screen with two little stop buttons.

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Offline clapcott  
#2 Posted : 25 October 2016 10:34:26(UTC)
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Please document ..
a) the original version number.
b) the new version number.

Is the network up, can the CS3 still be accessed with a browser or software ?

If you plug a Mobile Station in, what does it show ?

Peter
Offline Steamer01  
#3 Posted : 25 October 2016 11:12:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: clapcott Go to Quoted Post
Please document ..
a) the original version number.
b) the new version number.

Is the network up, can the CS3 still be accessed with a browser or software ?

If you plug a Mobile Station in, what does it show ?



There is nothing to document. Nothing is working. I cann't see a thing. See Stummi forum. There are in the meantime more people with the same problems.
The CS3 doesn't recognise the boosters anymore or anything else.
It only shows a white screen with two stop buttons.
Also with pressing the left button and the stop button doesn't give any results.

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#4 Posted : 25 October 2016 11:39:24(UTC)
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It would probably be best to send an email to the Marklin service centre, as not many of us or anyone else will have had much experience with the CS3.

As Peter suggests, can you access the CS3 with a web browser from a remote computer?

I'm assuming you're referring to the following Stummis thread - it's always good to include a link if you're referencing an outside source to a thread.

http://www.stummiforum.d...pic.php?f=5&t=142011
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#5 Posted : 25 October 2016 11:48:56(UTC)
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I see from that thread that you have already emailed Marklin. Have they responded? Be prepared that you might have to send your CS3+ back to them.

I see one of the posters in the Stummis thread tried the left rotary knob / stop bar hold down which fixed his similar issue, but it did not fix yours? Maybe you should try that again. If trying the update again doesn't work, check that your CS3+ has a network address - you should be able to ping it from another machine, or connect to the CS3+ address with a web browser. If not, then you are in trouble, as there will be no way to recover if your CS3+ doesn't have a tcpip address. You should also unplug all 8 of your boosters and any other devices connected to the CS3+.

At the very least, keep hassling Marklin until they come back with an answer for you.

(From the Stummis thread)

"Connect the CS 3 for an update to the network. Now press the stop button and at the same time change the direction of travel on the left-hand controller for an extended period of time. Then you get to the update menu and can then update the update again. Afterwards I had with my device again the old condition.

My dealer has just called at Märklin. They have told him that a data transfer from the CS 2 to the CS 3 is currently not allowed to carry out. The problem is being worked on at Märklin."
Offline Joan Ferrer  
#6 Posted : 25 October 2016 12:27:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
I see from that thread that you have already emailed Marklin. Have they responded? Be prepared that you might have to send your CS3+ back to them.

I see one of the posters in the Stummis thread tried the left rotary knob / stop bar hold down which fixed his similar issue, but it did not fix yours? Maybe you should try that again. If trying the update again doesn't work, check that your CS3+ has a network address - you should be able to ping it from another machine, or connect to the CS3+ address with a web browser. If not, then you are in trouble, as there will be no way to recover if your CS3+ doesn't have a tcpip address. You should also unplug all 8 of your boosters and any other devices connected to the CS3+.

At the very least, keep hassling Marklin until they come back with an answer for you.

(From the Stummis thread)

"Connect the CS 3 for an update to the network. Now press the stop button and at the same time change the direction of travel on the left-hand controller for an extended period of time. Then you get to the update menu and can then update the update again. Afterwards I had with my device again the old condition.

My dealer has just called at Märklin. They have told him that a data transfer from the CS 2 to the CS 3 is currently not allowed to carry out. The problem is being worked on at Märklin."


Start the center; when it is open hold for several seconds the STOP command and control right speed.
The display will disappear and instead will get a small where you will see that an update is loaded.
After this, you shall return to have the plant in conditions.
Offline Steamer01  
#7 Posted : 25 October 2016 19:25:37(UTC)
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It works fine again after the new Update.

Steamer01
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Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 25 October 2016 19:35:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Steamer01 Go to Quoted Post
It works fine again after the new Update.

Steamer01


Do you have the 60174 booster(s) working OK?

I have some. i have not decide to buy the CS3 yet.
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Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 25 October 2016 21:33:27(UTC)
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Member from facebook wrote 'the update is successfully installed but the locs and other decoders are not responding every time'.
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Offline Minok  
#10 Posted : 25 October 2016 22:20:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post

(From the Stummis thread)

"Connect the CS 3 for an update to the network. Now press the stop button and at the same time change the direction of travel on the left-hand controller for an extended period of time. Then you get to the update menu and can then update the update again. Afterwards I had with my device again the old condition.

My dealer has just called at Märklin. They have told him that a data transfer from the CS 2 to the CS 3 is currently not allowed to carry out. The problem is being worked on at Märklin."


From the stummis thread further clarified:
Quote:
Verbindet die CS 3 für ein Update mit dem Netz. Drückt jetzt bitte die Stop-Taste und gleichzeitig den Fahrtrichtungswechsel am linken Regler für längere Zeit. Dann gelangt man auch in das Update-Menü und kann dann erneut das Update durchführen. Danach hatte ich bei meinem Gerät wieder den alten Zustand.


In English:
Connect the CS3 to the network for an update.
Press and hold down the STOP bar and simultaneously depress the KNOB (left) for an extended period of time.
Then one can get to the update menu and can try another updated.
After that, my machine was back to its old state.

Note, based on other posts: it could be the right knob as well, or not matter which knob is depressed simultaneously with the STOP bar.

General Wisdom: when updating firmware, try and back up the existing state/firmware to an external source (SD card) first, before applying an update.

It may be the following update tagged with August 23 and/or 22 dates, is the issue (From Stummi's):
From Stummi's
Toys of tin and wood rule!
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Offline Steamer01  
#11 Posted : 26 October 2016 08:52:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Steamer01 Go to Quoted Post
It works fine again after the new Update.

Steamer01


Do you have the 60174 booster(s) working OK?

I have some. i have not decide to buy the CS3 yet.


*****************
The problems with the boosters (60174) still exists. I have tested the terminals and found no problem. After that I tested the boosters. The booster that I call booster 1 ist the first that begins with the problem. After that other boosters follow. Now I have six boosters switched on (not booster 1) and everything is working fine. This evening I will do other testings with the other 2 boosters. I think it has to do with synchronisation with booster 1.

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Offline David Dewar  
#12 Posted : 27 October 2016 23:36:35(UTC)
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Hopefully you can get the CS3 working properly. Surely Marklin should not put out these controllers until they are working as they should.
This is not some cheap toy and everything must operate correctly first time if the company are to make progress with sales. Not good coming up to Christmas if a youngster cant run their trains on the day.
I will wait until well into next year before buying but why should this be necessary.
I have had no problems with my CS2 over the past 8 years or so and would expect the new CS3 to be the same.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#13 Posted : 30 October 2016 09:47:13(UTC)
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I have serious issues with my two boosters (60174)....

This morning I get a grey screen after booting up the system and killing with Stop button Cursing

UserPostedImage

Let us hope that nothing burns up as CS2 did Huh

CS3 Plus 60216 så mycket bättre en CS2 ?
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Offline Rogierrietdijk  
#14 Posted : 30 October 2016 12:12:42(UTC)
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I have the same problem with the black/gray screen. You have to wait longer, the system is booting (or something :-)) and than it goes to the mainscreen.
Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 31 October 2016 07:04:17(UTC)
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That's way i keep away from those digital system when there is sometimes bugs after download upgrade. For one moment i thought Märklin did decides to avoid problems. I did looking forward to buy an CS3,but it seems not.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#16 Posted : 31 October 2016 07:32:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rogierrietdijk Go to Quoted Post
I have the same problem with the black/gray screen. You have to wait longer, the system is booting (or something :-)) and than it goes to the mainscreen.

My system didn't go to the main screen so I check the screen with web browser and everything did look okay.

UserPostedImage

I push the stop button and turn off the power and after some minutes turn it on again.

It boot up normal Cool

Let's hope they have prepared with new updates soon when configuration of sound decoder is missing Bored

It also require new updates of mobile apps and mDecoderTool3 because they doesnt function with CS3 Crying

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 31 October 2016 08:09:40(UTC)
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It could be worse.......

Samsung just had to recall all Note 7 mobile phones after their batteries started catching fire.

Apple are having trouble producing the new $230 ear buds they force you to buy after removing the headphone jack from the iPhone 7. Apple are also experiencing a 40% failure rate on new iPhone 7's with the black glossy case - manufacturers are having issues with being able to reliably manufacture the black gloss on the case to Apple's satisfaction.

Several car manufacturers have had to issue recalls on vehicles with manufacturers faults in them over the last several years.

Microsoft have had to issue new versions of Windows several times over the last 5 or 6 years due to making a mess of some new releases.

Welcome to the world of high tech! Those of us in the IT world always say wait until Service Pack 2 before adopting a new software version. early adopters get to suffer all of the pain.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#18 Posted : 31 October 2016 08:23:54(UTC)
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The big difference is that other manufacturer produces updates for their devices.

Support and users forum also exist from other manufacturer.

Check out Märklin development of their mobile apps version 1.4 from October 2013 Woot

It seems more interesting to give out new hardware instead to do the best with existing.

By the way, buy a pc mouse because the CS3 finger screen is a disaster Sneaky

Edited by user 31 October 2016 12:31:45(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline steventrain  
#19 Posted : 31 October 2016 11:24:58(UTC)
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Marklin information on Boosters.

M Wrote 'Please first make an update for the CS3 plus. It is online since Friday 28th October 2016.
Normaly 60216 must work with the boosters 60174 and 60175.
Please note that you can inform us about problems with it.'
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#20 Posted : 31 October 2016 14:30:19(UTC)
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Can CS2 be master and CS3+ be the slave unit ?
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Offline Goofy  
#21 Posted : 31 October 2016 17:40:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Go to Quoted Post


By the way, buy a pc mouse because the CS3 finger screen is a disaster Sneaky


I agree with you!
It depends our fingers are greasy,which can cause some glitches in the display window.

H0
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Offline nitramretep  
#22 Posted : 01 November 2016 21:20:08(UTC)
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Excuse the question, but 2 threads are about the CS3 issues, is the final prognosis that CS3 (+) is now functional and not in need of resuscitation?
Offline Steamer01  
#23 Posted : 03 November 2016 08:34:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Marklin information on Boosters.

M Wrote 'Please first make an update for the CS3 plus. It is online since Friday 28th October 2016.
Normaly 60216 must work with the boosters 60174 and 60175.
Please note that you can inform us about problems with it.'


Now the boosters seem to work fine; all 8 boosters.
This was the result of a gfp-update. I could only get this update bij pressing the right button + stop. After that there came gfp updates and then normal updates again.
Pressing left button + stop: normal updates.
Pressing right button + stop: gfp updates.

Now I still have the problem of the slave with a white screen. But every day I come further.

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Offline fhp2  
#24 Posted : 03 November 2016 16:09:40(UTC)
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Hello,
What do you mean by gfp update ?
What does it do compare with normal update ?
Best, François.
Offline Steamer01  
#25 Posted : 03 November 2016 18:11:45(UTC)
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GFP=Gleisformat Prozessor. It is a special update for communications between CS and boosters and others.

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Offline Steamer01  
#26 Posted : 06 November 2016 12:21:14(UTC)
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Now master and slave 60216 work fine. The data seem to use the special cable for connecting a slave to a master (terminal) and also the IP ethernetcable over a switch. So I had to use the IP-number of the master and wrote it down in the slave (2×).
After some trials I could see the connecting and when I am drawing a layout now it also appears in a second in the slave. Very fast.

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Offline fhp2  
#27 Posted : 07 November 2016 10:00:54(UTC)
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Hello,
I updated my recently bought CS3+.
Now the software version is displayed as BETA 1.1.0. Is it the most recent update available ?
Thank you, Francois.
Offline fhp2  
#28 Posted : 07 November 2016 10:05:37(UTC)
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Me again...
I also imported my CS2 backup file. It looks ok but the TCO background is now purple so it is impossible to see the tracks between turnouts...
And if I want to create a new layout, the background is still purple/pink... I did not find a way to choose any options concerning the layout design (colors etc...).
Thank you for your help,
Francois.
Offline Steamer01  
#29 Posted : 07 November 2016 11:19:35(UTC)
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Please make another update bij pressing left button + stop and after that the pink / purple colours are gone.

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Offline siroljuk  
#30 Posted : 07 November 2016 14:57:17(UTC)
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Hello.

I have managed to make backups from CS3 Plus and I have also updated my new device using both manners mentioned in this thread( using red buttons first right button+STOP and after updating was ready then left red button+STOP).
I don't know where you have learn to use this kind of updating? would you kindly tell us all please.
I cannot see any mention that in my device might be some beta-versionBlushing can you tell us more about it.

Then I have tried to transfer data from my old CS2 (60215) using several different USB sticks but I have no managed at all.
I can see from the USB-stick that I have managed to save CS2 backup there but when I put that stick to my CS3 Plus I can see the right stick there, but my CS3 Plus don't read from there anything( I can sii it from the led on the stick).
Please if someone has succeeded in this task tell us how you did it.

I realize that some of you might have insider information about CS3 and CS3 Plus.

Please share your knowledge to all of us

Regards

Jukka

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Offline siroljuk  
#31 Posted : 08 November 2016 11:18:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fhp2 Go to Quoted Post
Me again...
I also imported my CS2 backup file. It looks ok but the TCO background is now purple so it is impossible to see the tracks between turnouts...
And if I want to create a new layout, the background is still purple/pink... I did not find a way to choose any options concerning the layout design (colors etc...).
Thank you for your help,
Francois.


Hi Francois!.BigGrin
Could you tell us exactly and step by step, how did you manage to imported CS2's backup-file to CS3, I have tried it by all possible( well as I have known) ways and no succeed.
My studies of CS3have been interrupted to the fact That I do not get CS2-information into CS3 device. Blushing

I would be grateful for the assistanceThumpUp ThumpUp

Regards

Jukka
Offline fhp2  
#32 Posted : 08 November 2016 13:00:06(UTC)
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Hello,
I don't have my CS3+ in front of me, but if I remember well from last Saturday, I first updated the CS3+.
After this I had software version BETA 1.1.0.
Then I backed up my CS2 on a USB stick.
I plugged the stick in one of the 2 USB connectors (not the powered one), then I clicked on the Settings icon, then the CS3 icon and I chose Restore.
From there, I clicked USB then I chose my backup file and that was it...
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Offline siroljuk  
#33 Posted : 08 November 2016 14:08:33(UTC)
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Hello and than you for your answer.BigGrin
One question though:

If you remember, how you updated your CS3+ so that you got Beta version 1.1.0

I have not managed to do so. What was the update order Step by step if you remember PLEASEBlushing Blushing

Regards

Jukka
Offline fhp2  
#34 Posted : 08 November 2016 14:37:29(UTC)
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Well, on the settings tab, in the right upper corner I had an icon (a square with a little arrow going in) meaning that updates were available.
So, I clicked that icon and it started the update process...
By the way, in the CS3+ section of the Settings tab, you have to tick the "check for update" option (not sure of the name...).
Offline fhp2  
#35 Posted : 08 November 2016 14:41:33(UTC)
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You can also push the left big red button at the same time with the Stop bar for the normal update....
For the GFP update, you push the right big red button with the Stop bar.
Offline siroljuk  
#36 Posted : 08 November 2016 15:23:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fhp2 Go to Quoted Post
You can also push the left big red button at the same time with the Stop bar for the normal update....
For the GFP update, you push the right big red button with the Stop bar.


I have done this ( above) and got purple screen on which I can find all my boards I have done before and also there are all magnetic items to be found.
Like you I would say that it is difficult to see route from purple screen.
At that point I looked INFO:

Then if I start to update with left red button all went ok and purple color has gone.
After that I looked INFO:


Here we are again, BETA-version is gone and UPDATE from CS2 don't succeed.
I tried also update from CS2 when the screen was purple and result was:



But I couldn't get anything from my CS2 update-file from USB-stick.

Mysterious isn't it.
I have sent a question to Märklin Service and we will see ( perhaps much later) what is the situation of CS3 Plus at that moment.

If someone else had succeeded to update some data from CS2 please tell us how you managed to do it and most important question is:
How log it take to load CS2 stuff from USB to CS3 Plus or CS3.


Hope you all the best

Regards

Jukka

Offline fhp2  
#37 Posted : 08 November 2016 16:15:14(UTC)
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Thank you Jukka,
I am still with the purple screen after importing my cs2 file. I did not update again after this like you did.
So, if I understand weel, if you update after importing the cs2 file, the screen is back to normal but all the data from the cs2 were erased...?
And now, if you try again to import, it does not work ?
Offline siroljuk  
#38 Posted : 08 November 2016 16:38:45(UTC)
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Yes just so.
But I didn't see any item from CS2 when purple screen was on. Just that Information that there should be update from CS2 succeed.



I cannot understandBlushing

But anyway, I don't give up.
Tomorrow I will try again and again in different order to make updates and from CS2-import.

I have the functional environment of CS3 Plus backed up in the memory card.
The solution might be so that I have to try several USB-sticks with which to try to make that file transfer from CS2.

I have noticed that all my USB-sticks cannot be used with CS2.

I really don,t know what kind of USB-stick would be the best.

BigGrin BigGrin
I enjoy to solve problems and this one seems to be quite tricky.
Would it be possible you to make some screenshots of yyour CS3 to see how we can see than material has been transfered from CS2.
How it looks like.

even though Happy Training you and others too . . . see you tomorrow

Regards

Jukka
Offline kiwiAlan  
#39 Posted : 08 November 2016 18:06:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: siroljuk Go to Quoted Post

The solution might be so that I have to try several USB-sticks with which to try to make that file transfer from CS2.

I have noticed that all my USB-sticks cannot be used with CS2.

I really don,t know what kind of USB-stick would be the best.


What capacity are the sticks you are trying to use? You probably should use a small one, around 2GB to 8GB, as large ones may confuse the USB system as not all sticks work without specific code in the linux.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#40 Posted : 08 November 2016 19:44:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: siroljuk Go to Quoted Post
But I couldn't get anything from my CS2 update-file from USB-stick.


Sofar, the best advice is not to attempt to do this, as you could brick your CS3. Apparently we have to wait until Marklin tell us it is safe to do this and they release an update for it.

https://www.marklin-user...rting-CS2-datas-into-CS3

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Offline siroljuk  
#41 Posted : 09 November 2016 07:18:03(UTC)
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Hello.
Thank you for your advice.BigGrin BigGrin

After reading more ( as much as could find from forum) I decided to leave CS2 as it is and concentrate on CS3's other features.
but I start to write my comments so far to this thread:
https://www.marklin-user...s/t36796-New-cs3-ARRIVEDHuh Huh

Happy Training

Regards

Jukka



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Offline Goofy  
#42 Posted : 09 November 2016 09:21:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: siroljuk Go to Quoted Post


Happy Training

Regards

Jukka





A tip...don´t write training.
Training also confused with the sports by exercise.

H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
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Offline MaerklinLife  
#43 Posted : 09 November 2016 09:30:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
A tip...don´t write training.
Training also confused with the sports by exercise.

No, not in the context of the word.

A few definitions of the word "training":
"Training. Organized activity aimed at imparting information and/or instructions to improve the recipient's performance or to help him or her attain a required level of knowledge or skill."

Oxford: "Training. The action of teaching a person or animal a particular skill or type of behaviour".

Perfect word for the context!
Offline RayF  
#44 Posted : 09 November 2016 09:31:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: siroljuk Go to Quoted Post


Happy Training

Regards

Jukka





A tip...don´t write training.
Training also confused with the sports by exercise.



Thanks Anders!

Unfortunately "Training" is one of those ambiguous English words that are difficult to avoid.

The language is full of words that have several meanings. Try looking up "Jack" in the dictionary!

BigGrin
Ray
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Offline siroljuk  
#45 Posted : 09 November 2016 10:40:27(UTC)
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Hello, Now I have to explain i bitBigGrin BigGrin

As you have seen in my writings I am not an English speaking person. In school from 1962 when I started to learn English my ranking was always very poor every year to 1970 almost lowest. Scale in Finland was the 4 to 10 4 was poorest.Blushing Blushing

Here in this forum I mean TRAINING is same as run your locomotives and of course it mean also learn, practice and educate yourself all Märklin difficulties and new stuff.BigGrin BigGrin

and Above all it is my way to wish you all the bestBigGrin BigGrin

So Happy Training all you YOUThumpUp ThumpUp

Regards

Jukka
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Offline H0  
#46 Posted : 09 November 2016 12:09:10(UTC)
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Hi, Jukka!
Originally Posted by: siroljuk Go to Quoted Post
So Happy Training all you
I think most users here understood that salutation from the start.
For the rest, you might write "Happy TRAINing" or "Happy training (pun intended)" or something like that.

Automatic translators do not have a sense for puns and the salutation may look odd to those who use translators. C’est la vie.
Even to those it should be clear it is just a salutation and it is no problem if the meaning gets lost.
Regards
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#47 Posted : 09 November 2016 14:49:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
A tip...don´t write training.
Training also confused with the sports by exercise.

No, not in the context of the word.

A few definitions of the word "training":
"Training. Organized activity aimed at imparting information and/or instructions to improve the recipient's performance or to help him or her attain a required level of knowledge or skill."

Oxford: "Training. The action of teaching a person or animal a particular skill or type of behaviour".

Perfect word for the context!


Agreed.

Also Marklin had some digital Training items and sets, that I always thought was a very clever play on the english and german meanings of parts of the words. It could also mean Train Engineer as Ing is the german abbreviation for Ingenieur.

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#48 Posted : 10 November 2016 14:55:30(UTC)
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Looks like the 60226 CS3 is starting delivery.

Offline steventrain  
#49 Posted : 10 November 2016 15:12:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Looks like the 60226 CS3 is starting delivery.



It was already starting last week (2 Nov) but still temp not in stock.
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