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Possibly to the delight of ATSF modellers, but newly discovered by me, are Santa Fe Trains #7 and #8, the "Fast Mail Express" from Chicago to Los Angeles and vice versa, respectively. These fast mail trains contained mail baggage cars and box cars for mail and express mail, as well as cars for express freight. Mail cars from other railroads were often included. Deadhead passenger cars were also often attached. Due to legal requirements, a coach was also attached. These trains were given the same right of was as passenger trains, and subsequently ofter were pulled by passenger express locomotives such as red warbonnets (even in the 50s and 60s). These trains were intended to handle any volume of the aforementioned items required, and as a result would vary greatly for each run. If there was too much material, the ATSF "Grand Canyon" would handle overflow. To me these represent excellent modelling possibilities, likely with a variety of motive power, and number of motive units, and almost a unlimited combination of various cars. Certainly we are wanting for baggage cars and/or heavyweight pullmen equipment from mother M, but there are other options. Here is an overview to trains 7 and 8 including a few sample consists from the 40s, 50s and 60s. The variety is astounding. http://santafe.gmbus.com/7-8FastMailExpress/7-8FastMailExpress.htmHere an N-scale modeller discusses these trains and provides his own version of the train: http://needlesdivisionsantaferrnscale.blogspot.com/2015/09/1954-santa-fe-fast-mail-express-7.htmlHere is an account of operations on these trains from the US National Archives: http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/fall/fast-mail-side.htmlA couple of photos of one such consist in San Bernardino , CA, 1965.   Source (scroll down): http://coastdaylight.com/sb/san_berdoo_64.html-Brandon |
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Very nice pix: Nice traction to load hauled ratio.
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  I could be wrong, but I think Marklin have made more prototypes for UP than any other US railroad company: Alco PA-1 AA F7A (x2), F7B, F7 ABB Mikado Big Boy (8x) Not to mention quiet a bit of rolling stock, pacific fruit express, MOW cars, etc etc. Bonus round, if you really love UP, MTH also made: Alco PA-1 (ABBA) F3s (ABBA) GP35 (3x) Big Boy (4x) Challenger (x4) SD70ACe (3 UP, 6 UP Heritage) GE Dash 9-44CW (3x) GE ES44AC (3x) |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Maerklin US trains Thanks for that link. I didn't realize that Marklin had ever modeled the PRR GG1 until I saw one in the video link that you posted. That would be a sweet lok to have. Does anyone know during what years these were produced? Maybe they will bring it back one of these days.  |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj
That would be a sweet lok to have. Does anyone know during what years these were produced?
Marklin have made a few different versions in H0 and Z. For H0: Model - Year - Road/Livery 37490 - 2005 - PRR/Dark Green, mfx, sound 37491 - 2005 - "Metal Edition" (Silver/no road), mfx, sound 37942 - 2007 - PRR/Burgandy, mfx, sound 29490 - 2008 - PRR/Dark Green (Starter set w/MS1), mfx, sound 37943 - 2012 - PRR/Dark Green, mfx, sound -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA
Marklin have made a few different versions in H0 and Z. For H0:
-Brandon
Wow - all during the time that I was not collecting Marklin stuff - so I guess I might get a pass. Thanks for that info - I really would like one of those. I will keep my eyes open. |
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I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj
Wow - all during the time that I was not collecting Marklin stuff - so I guess I might get a pass.
There is a trick to finding this information :) Helmet Kern's Marklin site contains most locomotive models made from about 1957-2005: http://www.hfkern.de/Maerklin/Menue.htmlThen you can go to Marklin's website and search the product database for any models made from 2000-Present: http://www.maerklin.de/en/service/product-database/-Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA
There is a trick to finding this information :)
-Brandon
Cool - that will be a big help, since I attempted to find info on the GG1 using Google searches and didn't come up with much. I have tried to use Marklin's database but without much success unless I already knew the item number. Thanks for that resource. |
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Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Cool - that will be a big help, since I attempted to find info on the GG1 using Google searches and didn't come up with much. I have tried to use Marklin's database but without much success unless I already knew the item number. Thanks for that resource. Marklin's database seem to just use direct compare, there are no heuristics for similar terms. For example, in searching for GG1, I typed "GG1" and received not result. I searched for a model number I knew, 37490, and see Marklin describe it as "GG-1". Upon using that as a wild-card search, it revealed all models. A similar example is "BR78" will return nothing, but "BR 78" will return results. However, with this example, you also have to know that there may be some results under the older "T18" name for the locomotive. -Brandon |
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GG-1 themed videos: at toy fair At 3:18 a GG-1 hauled freight train appears... Sound check on private layout |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek GG-1 themed videos:
Very Nice! I imagine it is just a matter of time until Marklin releases a new GG-1, which I have always greatly admired. |
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Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Pacific Fruit Express reefer block on my layout.  |
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A sibling of Maerklin 4777 (carrying road number 999005):  ATSF way car(s), Waynoka, December 1966 |
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And another iteration of an ATSF F-unit mix: A-A-B-A-B  Hutch, December 1966 |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek And another iteration of an ATSF F-unit mix: A-A-B-A-B I am currently working very hard to not buy the 39952 Super Chief set and posting pictures like that is certainly not helping!  I recently noticed that Marklin has made it available again on their website, although in theory it was sold out long ago. I have multiple reasons to not get it. I want to focus mostly on European trains, I already have the similar California Zephyr and I need more track, turnouts, and electronics. But that is such a beauty and it would make a great friend for the CZ on my layout. Maybe the answer is to have a section of my layout devoted just to American prototypes and give up resisting these gorgeous train sets! I guess once I got a Big Boy and lots of freight cars for it, as well as the CZ, I had lost that battle anyway. |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Maybe the answer is to have a section of my layout devoted just to American prototypes and give up resisting these gorgeous train sets! I guess once I got a Big Boy and lots of freight cars for it, as well as the CZ, I had lost that battle anyway. A parallel post contains a video by a German gent who has a layout with a German and a US section (with a Big Boy...): https://www.marklin-user...--Maerklin-H0#post505025;o) |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek And another iteration of an ATSF F-unit mix: A-A-B-A-B I am currently working very hard to not buy the 39952 Super Chief set and posting pictures like that is certainly not helping! I recently noticed that Marklin has made it available again on their website, although in theory it was sold out long ago. I have multiple reasons to not get it. I want to focus mostly on European trains, I already have the similar California Zephyr and I need more track, turnouts, and electronics. But that is such a beauty and it would make a great friend for the CZ on my layout. Maybe the answer is to have a section of my layout devoted just to American prototypes and give up resisting these gorgeous train sets! I guess once I got a Big Boy and lots of freight cars for it, as well as the CZ, I had lost that battle anyway. I can give you a lot of reasons to buy the perfect 26496 Super Chief, buy anyone to not buy it.  
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Maerklin 4863...  ...versus prototype at Conway Scenic RR in New Hampshire, USA.   :o) |
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Are you curious how the good old EMD F-type really sounds like? Then watch below my "bells and whistles" video. |
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MTH GP35 on Maerklin K track and R1 curves. |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek MTH GP35 on Maerklin K track and R1 curves. MTH specify R2 for GP35 models, but my experience has been the same as the maker of this video, they work fine on R1 curves. The only issue I have seen is that the fuel tank will get hung up on turnout lanterns on standard C-track turnouts (straight and curved). -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek
Who knows how long this will remain online...
Not sure, but the Marklin USA webpage seems to be a time capsule from around 2000-2001. There is also a great introduction/pitch about the first big boy model: http://www.marklin.com/bigboy/-Brandon |
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More Marklin ATSF modeling possibilities: The Santa Fe Grand Canyon (train 23), at Raton Pass on July 27th, 1967. Reasonable lenght passenger train pulled by A-B-B-B-A F7 units, including a PRR boxcar and a few baggage/RPO cars as head end equipment. From the original poster: "The summertime consist of this still-popular train includes eight chair cars, two sleepers, a dorm-lounge, a diner, an RPO and a dozen or so baggage, express and mail storage cars, including, just behind the units, the usual grimy Pennsy express car."  Source: http://www.railpictures.net/photo/571462/Same train, same day, different angle: Again from the original poster: "Santa Fe train 23, the westbound Grand Canyon behind F7A 313, makes its entrance at Raton beneath the old U.S. 85 bridge. The summertime version of the still-popular – and relatively inexpensive -- train includes eight chair cars, two sleepers, a dorm-lounge, a diner, a dozen or so head-end cars and an RPO. As of July, 1967, service is still offered to the Grand Canyon’s south rim via Williams, Arizona, and in Barstow, the train will split into separate San Francisco and Los Angeles sections. Such was train travel before Amtrak." -Brandon  Source: http://www.railpictures.net/photo/524516/ |
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Amazing photos Brandon,thank you very much. 
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ATSF ration (see background).  |
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Did I already post this photo from Colorado about the Rio Grande, Rock Island and Santa Fe railroads?  |
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ATSF engine facility - for EMD F-units only...  |
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Hi all. I bought this book recently.  Published in 1977 , 175 pages of B&W photos - superb ! No marklin purchases to show recently because my expensive pre-orders are starting to appear for my main U.S. Layout. So far. U.P. 3-unit Gas Turbine ("Big Blow") PRR S2 6-8-6 Steam turbine. PRR J1 2-10-4. PRR Baldwin Centipede double unit. More to come. Regards, Colin.
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