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Grainy video of Maerklin US-themed layout: Edited by user 31 December 2015 21:47:48(UTC)
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Various Maerklin US trains running on dogbone layout during a German club event in 2014: |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  Another forum member?
Nicely done video. Regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Nice, and realistic, including the wobbly trackwork!!  |
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Maerklin Big Boys (et al.) of the USA. |
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As a new item, Maerklin introduces an AT&SF Mikado steam loco (art. 37935).  Technical specifications can be found here: http://www.steamlocomotive.com/mikado/?page=atsfE.g.: " ...4060-4069 and 4086-4100--were oil burners..." Prototype photo - besides the Maerklin model being coal-fired, the dome arrangement differs, and the tender has six axles instead of four:  Source: http://railhistorian.com...rchive/santa-fe-gallery/Here is a sister engine of the same class pictured. Narrative: "This oil burning 1924 Baldwin Mikado was a class 4060 with 63" drivers and 27"x32" cylinders. The engine weight was 342,000 lb and it could produce a tractive effort of 62,949 lb. The class was scrapped between 1950-54. No photographer was identified". Picture taken on 07/12/1939 in Clovis, NM.  Source: http://rrpicturearchives...wPicture.aspx?id=3840032 |
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Ak has already unearthed excellent information regarding the ATSF Mikado. With US railroads in most cases steam went by the wayside in the late 40s or early 50s due to exhaustion from production efforts to serve the war effort; as a result 'Dieselization' was earlier here than some other places. While the ATSF 4000 class Mikados were scraped by 1954 in the latest, we can still except some realistic overlap in the last days of steam with perhaps our Marklin ATSF PA-1 Alcos, MTH 3e+ F3s and Marklin F7 units. ATSF had a lot of F7s (215 A units and 247 B units), only Southern Pacific had more, and only New York Central got even close to either of these players. At any rate, the F7 was produced from 1949-1953, so there is a window. Also of note, there were 101 units in the ATSF 4000 class, certainly a large enough number one may be encountered doing some sort of last days work while passed by a gleaming Super Chief or otherwise. In contrast, Union Pacific, for whom Marklin has produced a couple of Mikados (or perhaps more, I cant' recall at the moment), scrapped their Mikados starting in the same timeframe as ATSF, but giving a bit longer life, scrapping some as late as 1959. UP had retired most all of their steam equipment as of the early 60s, as had ATSF and many others. And one yet unlinked photo of an ATSF 4000 class Mikado; ATSF 4075 at the Raton Pass Tunnels in Trinidad Colorado (hey, sounds likea good state to model, right?), July 26th 1948; photo credit Bruce Wilson. Note the semi-ghosted "SANTA FE" on the tender above the road number.  Link: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=443480&nseq=0-Brandon |
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Thanks Brandon,
and that is an awesome picture, too.
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Actually I did not mean to deter. The fact that I address the topic means that I am interested. For me, the model is close enough to the prototype. In fact, am tempted to buy a SF Mikado.
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Thanks Brandon,
and that is an awesome picture, too.
:o)
Actually I did not mean to deter. The fact that I address the topic means that I am interested. For me, the model is close enough to the prototype. In fact, am tempted to buy a SF Mikado.
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Hi Ak Yes, buy a Mikado, it is very well made model. I have a 2 rail Trix version from 2004 in Pennsylvania lettering. Having modelled US stuff for 30 years, i can say that Marklin make rolling stock that is lettered for the early 1960s. But as representative of US railroads, theh have a fine selection you can use with any motive power. Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow
Hi Ak Yes, buy a Mikado, it is very well made model. I have a 2 rail Trix version from 2004 in Pennsylvania lettering. Having modelled US stuff for 30 years, i can say that Marklin make rolling stock that is lettered for the early 1960s. But as representative of US railroads, theh have a fine selection you can use with any motive power. Kimball Kimball, I agree with your statement; and this generally seems to be the focus of most Marklin US motive power; with a few exceptions. In the past few years Marklin issued this style car as a 40 ft car in a plastic set (I believe 45651, which was subject to zinkplist of the floors unfortunately) and also a 50 foot car in a tin plate set (45644):  In regard to the Mikado discussion, this photo is dated March, 1940, so we could put that right behind the locomotive and perhaps squint harder at the rest ;) -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA ...... In the past few years Marklin issued this style car as a 40 ft car in a plastic set (I believe 45651, which was subject to zinkplist of the floors unfortunately) and also a 50 foot car in a tin plate set (45644): .... -Brandon Hi Brandon, Unfortunately, a couple of my friends purchased these new, unopened for 10 years, with the then discovery of zinkpest. I do believe Marklin will replace them if returned to the dealer or the factory, but from Australia, the economics do not add up. regards Kimball |
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On a somewhat related topic, I am considering ordering the new 39621 Great Northern F7's.
I do not own an F7. Curious if you more experienced owners have any initial thoughts
regarding this new release.
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I have 13 F7 units,7 triple units and 6 double units.All the previous double units have only one motor,the 39621 will have two motors.I will buy this one too.If you buy the first then you will fall in love with them. 
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EMD F7: I am playing in Foumaro´s league. Even the double unit with only one motor is a smooth runner and great puller. So, as Foumaro stated, the new GN A-A lash-up gotta be "fail-proof". Edited by user 23 January 2016 07:59:55(UTC)
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Santa Fe 40 ft cars: I was also victimized, but in due course compensated by Maerklin (albeit not in "Santa Fe currency"). I do have the 50 ft tin plate model which is - like my entire tin plate fleet - untroubled (see pic).  |
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Ok so if I order 39621 GN paired F7's and hopper car set 45661, what is my best option for a caboose?
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Originally Posted by: stevep Ok so if I order 39621 GN paired F7's and hopper car set 45661, what is my best option for a caboose?
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Steve I would check eBay for a Great Northern caboose - any brand, any colour so long as you can fit Marklin wheels, and have a suitable coupler capability. regards Kimball |
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I will check. By the way which other manufacturers' rolling stock is compatible with Marklin 3 rail?
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Well, that is a "wide" question. To keep it simple and limited to a caboose: Any brand. Main issue is the coupler. Since you plan to buy the GN hopper set - the hoppers being equipped with NEM coupler pockets - you could easily replace the European coupler of one hopper against a US type Kadee coupler (Kadee offers couplers fitting into NEM pockets). Like that a US made caboose can be coupled to the Maerklin train. Since the caboose would only be trailing, you might get away without exchanging the "two-rail" caboose wheels against Maerklin wheels, depends... Again, this advice is only valid under these limited circumstances. Note that the GN paint scheme varied over time. Quick research showed the one shown in attachment would match the era of the Maerklin GN model.  Another approach would be to buy a cheap second hand Maerklin tin-plate caboose and repaint and adorn it with a GN goat logo downloaded from the internet. I did that once. |
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BTW: Maerklin offered matching H0 scale 40 ft GN box cars 45642-02 in red and 45645-05 in green/turquoise in 2010 and 2014, respectively.  |
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And a brown one in 24902 trix set.
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Thank you for your replies. Good ideas. On a related topic, any opinions on attributes of Great Northern 39621 vs
Soo Line 39620?
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The 39620 is a three unit locomotive,39621 is two unit locomotive.The 39620 is more expensive.Marklin sells the 39620 with a Soo Line caboose.
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Originally Posted by: foumaro The 39620 is a three unit locomotive,39620 is two unit locomotive. Umm, yeah, which is it ??? A typo here I think.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: foumaro The 39620 is a three unit locomotive,39620 is two unit locomotive. Umm, yeah, which is it ??? A typo here I think. You are right,i fix my post.  
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And two out of the three SOO units are motorized (thus one B-unit dummy), aren´t they? My EMD F7 A-B-B-A consists all have two motorized and two dummy units. In that configuration, they pull in regular service trains with 25 US style tin plate freight cars (i.e. 100 axles) uphill on my layout. Hence, the SOO units are good pullers, too. But then, Maerklin offered only one SOO freight car, article no. 4774 open gondola.  |
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Thanks again for your replies. Sounds like both are good choices. But I have decided I am going to order the Great Northern set which I think is not expected until the 2nd quarter of
2016. I am waiting for delivery of a previously ordered Montreal Limited, 26495. This way I will spread out my new arrivals. Also I prefer the bright Great Northern color scheme.
I will shop around for a caboose to modify.
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Originally Posted by: stevep Thanks again for your replies. Sounds like both are good choices. But I have decided I am going to order the Great Northern set which I think is not expected until the 2nd quarter of
2016. I am waiting for delivery of a previously ordered Montreal Limited, 26495. This way I will spread out my new arrivals. Also I prefer the bright Great Northern color scheme.
I will shop around for a caboose to modify.
Take Care
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The Montreal Limited is a perfect train too.The double Alcos have the greatest pulling power of all Marklin HO locomotives.
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Nice! I am excited to receive this train.
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Originally Posted by: foumaro And a brown one in 24902 trix set. Did not have this one on the radar:  Märklin 45658-03 Livestock Car, Great Northern Railway |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: foumaro And a brown one in 24902 trix set. Did not have this one on the radar: Märklin 45658-03 Livestock Car, Great Northern Railway It is nice how Marklin model the second floor on this car. They were called double-deckers. I guess they could load large beasts on the bottom floor, and smaller ones on the top. Most models do not include the second floor. regards Kimball |
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My Montreal Limited arrived and i "unboxed" it tonight. Looks great!
And previous posts are correct the double Alcos are impressive for sure.
They really do run strong.
Unfortunately when putting the train together for the very first time
the socket for the current carrying connector on the last coach of the train
broke. What a bummer. Sure my dealer will resolve it but none
of the car lights work since this is the coach with the pick up shoe.
Oh well still runs strong sounds great.
I am now a USA diesel fan!
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The first Alco is enough,now you gonna get all of them. Propably the spare part you will need for the car is the E579120.You must be more careful with this kind of cars.Enjoy your perfect train.
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Yes that does look like the replacement part I need. I would need to remove
the coach body to make this repair, right? Do you know where I could find
instructions on how to do this? The coach at issue is the last car in the set
"Plattsburgh" #66.
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Ayayayayay, that is tricky with the streamliner observation car.
Since I could not find any instructions, I educated myself to dis- and re-assemble various streamliner cars (coach/sleeper/diner/dome/baggage), but not the observation car itself. For the coach/sleeper/diner/dome/baggage cars, one needs to:
1. remove both end walls (which can be pulled out with gentle force) - and mind the coupler;
2. pull the metal body gently apart to release the "bottom" with the trucks;
3. secure the minuscule springs above both brass plates covering the coupler mechanism (they tend to "jump" away);
4. gently lift relevant brass plate;
5. place E579120;
6. follow reverse order for re-assembly.
When re-assembling the cars, remember the correct position for the different end walls.
For the observation car, I reckon that at step 1 you have to pull out the plastic end wall on one side and remove the oval observation end on the other side by loosening a "underbelly" screw.
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Ok this was really helpful and I made some progress.
I have been able to begin to lift the coach body from the bottom
where the trucks are .
But am I worried about breaking
wires for the interior lighting. Maybe I could post a picture to show you?
How would I do that?
Thanks again
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I would like to help you but it is impossible by writing or sending a photo.If your dealer is near you i recomend to take the car to the dealer to fix it,i believe that he is more experienced than you is such situations.Just my opinion.
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As I stated, the observation car is tricky. I could test dis-assembly on my own one, but I do not have time for this for the next one or two weeks. Anyway, some way it is all plug and play and clip on and off tech - without soldering or breaking things. I recall that the lighting feeder cable is laterally plugged into the lighting beam under the roof. Thus, it could be - gently, gently - pulled out to allow further disassembly.
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Thanks again for your help and advice. I worked at it (patiently) last night
and I am able to get things opened up enough to accomplish the replacement.
Now I just have to wait for the part to arrive
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I fixed it! Thanks again for all of your help.
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Good news for you.Enjoy your perfect train.Your next double Alco is coming soon. 
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