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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1051 Posted : 09 February 2016 11:49:39(UTC)
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#1052 Posted : 09 February 2016 22:33:04(UTC)
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Yikes, I'm a little late to the party. However, if anyone else is considering those awesome looking Great Northern Green and Orange F7s, here's some inspiration.

Great Northern had a decent fleet of F7s (not ATSF levels, but more than D&RGW); 63 a Units and 49 B units. For our Marklin model, we have no B unit; but the odds are in our favour. A little more inspiration from the prototype:

A-A unit pulling a (6?) car passenger train, Tacoma, Washington, July 1957. Note the UP car at the end.

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=172921&nseq=15

Slight cheat, if you ignore the GP unit sitting just off frame, two A units waiting assignment in Portland, April 1969.

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=498235&nseq=1

In terms of power of 2 units, here's 2 older FT units pulling a freight in 1946:

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Northern_freight_1946.JPG

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#1053 Posted : 09 February 2016 22:36:19(UTC)
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A few extra facts:

Great Northern history

I noticed Walthers (WalthersProto) is running 85' HO cars in the Empire Builder Scheme at the moment, some of which are on sale. I do not know how hard it would be to convert to run on Marklin track, but I am sure it could be done. I may even try myself. Here's a guide to prototypical Empire Builder consists from 1955-1969:

http://www.greatnorthern...mpireBuilderConsists.htm

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#1054 Posted : 28 February 2016 20:33:34(UTC)
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Prototypical excuse to mix Maerklin WP, GN, UP et al. offered by the venerable Model Railroader in special issue "Great Model Railroads 2009":
gnwpetalexcuse2016.jpg
Context is the WP "Highline" which connected the WP Oakland – Salt Lake City main line at the Keddie Wye with the GN at Klamath Falls, Oregon.
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#1055 Posted : 29 February 2016 15:38:17(UTC)
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Great Northern 350A is bringing the International #357 down to Seattle from Vancouver.
GN-350A_BLOG.jpg
Two F units, but unlike the M* A-A version: A-B.
http://www.oil-electric.com/search/label/F7A
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#1056 Posted : 29 February 2016 17:50:56(UTC)
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Trying badly to match the F7 A-A combination offered by M*. Either the color is "wrong", or it is an A-B consist, or once the paint scheme is matching, one A unit is actually an E-type...
gn2.jpghavre12-48.jpggnnp.jpggn307a.jpgpictures_71903_gn-stone-arch-bridge-mpls-1967.jpg6978_1348866539.jpg
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Offline BrandonVA  
#1057 Posted : 01 March 2016 14:33:30(UTC)
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Ak,

It's a challenge for sure. I've found there don't seem to be that many photos of GN F7s online compared to say ATSF, UP, etc.

However, what have we here? BigGrin

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I do not believe the date listed on the webpage for this photo is correct, given the general look of the photo, the colour, that it's a scan from a 35mm slide and also the 1950s car roofline appear on the left hand side of the locomotive.

Source: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4287012
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#1058 Posted : 01 March 2016 14:42:42(UTC)
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One more, not quiet as good due to the GP9 (?) unit on the left, but still close:

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Minneapolis, MN 1970.

Source: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=383694
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#1059 Posted : 01 March 2016 15:25:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Prototypical excuse to mix Maerklin WP, GN, UP et al. offered by the venerable Model Railroader in special issue "Great Model Railroads 2009":
gnwpetalexcuse2016.jpg
Context is the WP "Highline" which connected the WP Oakland – Salt Lake City main line at the Keddie Wye with the GN at Klamath Falls, Oregon.


This is enticing. In California, in the 50s/60s we can pick up "Marklin" US railroads like ATSF, GN, SP, UP, WP. In Denver we can see ATSF, CB&Q, D&RGW, UP, and occasionally TP after the MP merger with TP (really more like late 60s/70s). Perhaps a split layout, Northern California to Denver :)

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#1060 Posted : 05 March 2016 00:39:49(UTC)
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M* CZ
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#1061 Posted : 05 March 2016 11:09:26(UTC)
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On the occasion of GN motive power being added to the M* portfolio:

There are EMD streamliners, E-units at 1:23-1:30 departing the Twin Cities and 27:48-30:00 traversing the Rockies as well as FT-units 0:55-1:15 leaving Minneapolis
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#1062 Posted : 05 March 2016 11:19:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Ak,

It's a challenge for sure. I've found there don't seem to be that many photos of GN F7s online compared to say ATSF, UP, etc.

However, what have we here? BigGrin

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I do not believe the date listed on the webpage for this photo is correct, given the general look of the photo, the colour, that it's a scan from a 35mm slide and also the 1950s car roofline appear on the left hand side of the locomotive.

Source: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4287012


Looks like the Cascadian that ran until 1959.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadian_(train)

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Here is a typical consist:gn-c-c.png

And here a shortened version:mpc_cascadian.jpg

It is about time to order a palet full of Frateschi Pullman cars and re-paint them for specific needs.
;o)
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#1063 Posted : 06 March 2016 11:36:45(UTC)
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US reefers: At the end of the 1950s, the last ice bunker refrigerator cars were built and the first mechanical reefers (utilizing diesel-powered refrigeration units) entered revenue service and the flush, "plug" style sliding door was introduced. The "tin plate" Maerklin 47780 50 ft mechanical reefer is a model of the Pacific Fruit Express (PFE) prototype. Stumbling over below prototype photo, I was astonished how closely the model matches the prototype.
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My apologies for not having a Southern Pacific yard goat.
;o)

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Offline BrandonVA  
#1064 Posted : 08 March 2016 04:29:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
On the occasion of GN motive power being added to the M* portfolio:
There are EMD streamliners, E-units at 1:23-1:30 departing the Twin Cities and 27:48-30:00 traversing the Rockies as well as FT-units 0:55-1:15 leaving Minneapolis


Also interesting, at least to me, the variety of flags from which the rolling stock in this film orginiates; easily seen on a few occasionas; ATSF, B&O, CB&Q, Pacifc Northwest and others. Furthermore, all of the Marklin 50" tin-plate cars have the "automatic" handbrake. Much safer for Preiserlings :)

-Brandon
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#1065 Posted : 08 March 2016 04:33:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post


Looks like the Cascadian that ran until 1959.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadian_(train)



Out-Googled again! Great info! Use the loco number?

Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post


It is about time to order a palet full of Frateschi Pullman cars and re-paint them for specific needs.
;o)


I know some years ago Walthers made GN coaches that were not "Empire Builder style". I have not looked to see if these can be found. WalthersProto and Rivarossi also made Empire Builder coaches, the former currently still for sale new, but states R5 curves recommended. Looking at the boogie design it may be possible to get it down lower.

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#1066 Posted : 08 March 2016 04:35:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
US reefers: At the end of the 1950s, the last ice bunker refrigerator cars were built and the first mechanical reefers (utilizing diesel-powered refrigeration units) entered revenue service and the flush, "plug" style sliding door was introduced. The "tin plate" Maerklin 47780 50 ft mechanical reefer is a model of the Pacific Fruit Express (PFE) prototype. Stumbling over below prototype photo, I was astonished how closely the model matches the prototype.


One thing I always found interesting about the Pacific fruit express, made it's return trip empty. It makes sense, but surprised someone didn't think they could double their economy by loading these cars with something!

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#1067 Posted : 17 March 2016 20:51:23(UTC)
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Not that I'm biased or anything, more D&RGW prototype excuses or semi-excuses:

D&RGW F7s somewhere between Denver and the Big 10 loops headed up the Moffat road, March 1966. A-A-B-B-A. While we may have to get creative for B units, the AA unit in the front is very Marklin-possible.

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A little easier in terms of motive power, the Yampa Valley Mail on March 28th, 1966. A single A unit in the lean of one baggage/post car and one passenger coach. The motive power is easy, for coaches we may have to change some wheelsets :) The Yampa Valley Mail is good for a modeler, it is often short, two coaches (it can be longer, but in the 60s it was often not). Sometimes it ran a green pullman car instead of the D&RGW baggage car. I have seen the a two coach combo in prototype photographs pulled by 1.) a single PA-1 Alco. 2.) A PA-1 Alco and a F7A (either one at the nose), a single F7A.

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PA-1:

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PA-1 and F7A or F7B:

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More info about the Yampa Valley Mail:

http://www.drgw.org/data/passenger/Yampa.htm

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#1068 Posted : 17 March 2016 21:00:29(UTC)
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Yet easier, a couple of F7A in Minturn, CO. Four stripe paintjob instead of the later single stripe prospector used by Marklin, but close enough ;) Most likely waiting or having finished helper service for a run up or down Tennessee Pass.

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Source: http://www.drgw.net/gallery/v/DRGWDieselContainer/F7s/DRGW5681/drgw_5681_minturn_co_unknown_000.jpg.html

Two F7A (I think, hard to see the rear unit) near Blue Mountain crossing in Colorado, March 30, 1957.

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Source: http://www.drgw.net/gallery/v/DRGWDieselContainer/F7s/DRGW5704/drgw_5704_bluemountain_co_30_mar_1957_000.jpg.html

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#1069 Posted : 17 March 2016 21:09:13(UTC)
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Another challenge. If you happen to have the MTH F3 D&RGW units, a couple of things may be of interest:

First, D&RGW sometimes did, but more often did not have separate gearing for passenger trains and freight trains. As a result, you'll see all sorts of units pulling all sorts of things in protoype photos. The only exception seems to be the Alco PA-1s, which appear to have always been used in some kind of passenger service for their entire life (as previously noted, D&RGW only had 6 PA-1, four A units and 2 B units, originally used in A-B-A sets for the California Zephyr, but often in smaller sets for other trains. The B units were eventually converted to heater cars and in service well through the 90s. One may still be used for the Winter Park Ski train, but I have not checked.

Second, when D&RGW bought F3 units, at least for the first couple of years they were often used for freight (D&RGW had 12 F3s, three ABBA sets). They may have used them on and off for freight later, but I can't verify it yet.

And that brings us to this, A F7A and F7B leading a F3A/F3B in Denver, CO, April 19. 1957. At least, the photo notes them as F3s. They look like FT units to me, and FTs were still in service for the railroad until 1965. However, this does provide an illustration of one of the many interesting/odd Rio Grande motive mashups, inspiring the possibility for creativity on our own part.

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Source: http://www.drgw.net/gallery/v/DRGWDieselContainer/F7s/DRGW5571/drgw_5571_denver_co_19_apr_1959_000.jpg.html

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#1070 Posted : 18 March 2016 13:26:34(UTC)
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Almost only black and white, but no color photos of F-units with Prospector paint scheme? Here you go, have a Maerklin-compatible color photo complete with Moffat tunnel portal (never mind the B units...).
DRG5771_WinterParkCo_Nov74.jpg
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#1071 Posted : 18 March 2016 13:41:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Not that I'm biased or anything, more D&RGW prototype excuses or semi-excuses...

Hear, hear.

Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
D&RGW F7s somewhere between Denver and the Big 10 loops headed up the Moffat road, March 1966. A-A-B-B-A. While we may have to get creative for B units, the AA unit in the front is very Marklin-possible.

Similar match near Soldier Summit.
soldier2summit098765.jpg

And in case one wonders what should bring up the rear of a Rio Grande freight train.
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(BTW: I created such a Rio Grande caboose by applying a home made Rio Grande decal on a Maerklin Union Pacific (UP) tin plate caboose, thereby covering both, windows below cupola and UP markings)
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#1072 Posted : 18 March 2016 14:21:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Almost only black and white, but no color photos of F-units with Prospector paint scheme? Here you go, have a Maerklin-compatible color photo complete with Moffat tunnel portal (never mind the B units...).


In that spirit, sometimes I find it hard to find photos of F3s in the single strip prospector livery. However, fear not, a perfect MTH 3e+and Marklin 26600 coach combo:

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-Brandon
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#1073 Posted : 18 March 2016 16:15:57(UTC)
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More DRG&W single stripped ones:
drgw_f7-5564_salt-lake-city_apr-1967_dave-england-photo-S.jpgDRGW1965Denver.pngdrgw_f3_5554_salt-lake-city_mar-1967_dave-england-photo-S.jpg
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#1074 Posted : 18 March 2016 16:20:15(UTC)
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And matching caboose:
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#1075 Posted : 18 March 2016 16:23:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Another challenge. If you happen to have the MTH F3 D&RGW units, a couple of things may be of interest...
Under such lucky circumstances, one might want to have a matching caboose.
DNRGyellow.jpg
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#1076 Posted : 18 March 2016 18:47:33(UTC)
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More thoughts on B units;

When looking for alternatives from other manufacturers to couple with your A units, see a few examples of Rio Grande mix and match help make a lash up that Don't have perfect matching paint jobs.

F7A+B, A has black grills, B has silver:

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Another version of mixed grill colours, ABBBA:

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And now, looking at the photos posted via link in the Quiz section movie guessing contest; we have a few more from this link:

"Bumblebee" F unit with gold on black leading "prospector four stripe" F units with black stripes on gold and silver roofs/boogies:

UserPostedImage

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#1077 Posted : 18 March 2016 18:49:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
More DRG&W single stripped ones:
drgw_f7-5564_salt-lake-city_apr-1967_dave-england-photo-S.jpg


I believe this one is actually F7A+B in front and F3A+B hiding in the back!

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#1078 Posted : 18 March 2016 18:51:17(UTC)
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And if you have two MTH units (I believe I have posted this before, so I am a cheater). Note also how the nose top is green here, sometimes it's also white, or various faded versions of one or the other.

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-Brandon
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#1079 Posted : 18 March 2016 19:08:47(UTC)
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How about:

A-B-B?
ori drgw.png

A-B-B (plus steam generator)?
ori2drgw.png
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#1080 Posted : 18 March 2016 19:27:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
More thoughts on B units;

When looking for alternatives from other manufacturers to couple with your A units, see a few examples of Rio Grande mix and match help make a lash up that Don't have perfect matching paint jobs.
Had I known before starting to paint them B-units...
IMG_1311.jpg


Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
And now, looking at the photos posted via link in the Quiz section movie guessing contest; we have a few more from this link:
:o)
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#1081 Posted : 18 March 2016 19:38:31(UTC)
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Had I known before starting to paint them B-units...


It's ok to match...

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#1082 Posted : 18 March 2016 19:40:38(UTC)
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Two more A-A configs:

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=568172&nseq=0

"For two days crews have been cleaning up the aftermath of a derailment near Tolland, just east of the Moffat Tunnel. Now, on January 30, 1966, F7A 5741 and 5744 ease down the 2 percent at Coal Creek Canyon on their way back to North Yard with the Denver wreck train. The consist includes derrick 029, outfit cars, a flat of track panels and, behind the caboose, what appears to be a Southern Pacific boxcar missing a coupler. A hospital train of damaged freight cars follows about twenty minutes behind."

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Source: http://www.railpictures.net/vie...php?id=567565&nseq=1

"On a blustery April 4, 1966, F7A 5734 and a companion shove hard at Simms Street in Arvada, boosting a freight toward the distant mountains. In about 43 miles, at the Moffat Tunnel’s East Portal, the helpers will drop off and return to Denver’s North Yard. Delivered to the Grande in February, 1949, as 557D, one-fourth of an A-B-B-A set., the 1500-hp 5734 is technically intermediate between late F3 and early F7 models with updated generator and traction motors -- one of a dozen rostered by the railroad and sometimes classified (though not by the railroad or by maker EMD) as F5A’s. "

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#1083 Posted : 18 March 2016 20:21:36(UTC)
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Well done: Maerklin collector´s delight ! And even shiny and unweathered. And- as you pointed out in an earlier post - the prototype roadbed resembles indeed Maerklin C-track.
:o)

I can offer a single A-unit pulling the Yampa Mail train:

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#1084 Posted : 18 March 2016 20:38:40(UTC)
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Thanks both of you for the great photos.LOL Love ThumpUp
Maybe marklin will give us ABB Rio Grande F7 and a caboose the next year.Wub
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#1085 Posted : 18 March 2016 21:11:01(UTC)
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Thanks both of you for the great photos.LOL Love ThumpUp
Maybe marklin will give us ABB Rio Grande F7 and a caboose the next year.Wub


No...before.... a Via Rail train Tongue Tongue

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#1086 Posted : 19 March 2016 01:16:45(UTC)
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I can offer a single A-unit pulling the Yampa Mail train:



In addition to the Yampa Mail (later Yampa valley after the post office contract was lost by RRs), another one that is often short and headed by 1-2 motive units in the 60s is the "Royal Gorge" named after the route it took on the Tennesse Pass Mainline, through Royal Gorge.

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Only two (I think A) units on that second one :)

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#1087 Posted : 19 March 2016 01:19:39(UTC)
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Maybe marklin will give us ABB Rio Grande F7 and a caboose the next year.Wub


I would buy two sets!

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#1088 Posted : 19 March 2016 02:13:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post

In addition to the Yampa Mail (later Yampa valley after the post office contract was lost by RRs), another one that is often short and headed by 1-2 motive units in the 60s is the "Royal Gorge" named after the route it took on the Tennesse Pass Mainline, through Royal Gorge.


Here's the version of the Royal Gorge I was really looking to find:

https://flic.kr/p/9B53mq

Also, the back to the Yampa Valley:

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Additional and interesting information: http://streamlinermemories.info/?p=9077

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#1089 Posted : 19 March 2016 06:32:52(UTC)
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Great work guys, awesome DRG&W photos posted, made want to see this one again, they are F3's looking very cool pulling the Zephyr in this great scene from 1954...
DRG&W F3's
Glenwood Springs, Colorado

Cheers, Gordon

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#1090 Posted : 19 March 2016 11:09:56(UTC)
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...another one that is often short and headed by 1-2 motive units in the 60s is the "Royal Gorge" named after the route it took on the Tennesse Pass Mainline, through Royal Gorge.
Fresh wind, very good. How does "Royal" sound in the ears of a U.S. federalist, especially in rugged Colorado?

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Great work guys, awesome DRG&W photos posted, made want to see this one again, they are F3's looking very cool pulling the Zephyr in this great scene from 1954...
Now that looks like BrandonVA´s MTH A-B-B-A set !
:o)
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#1091 Posted : 19 March 2016 11:16:38(UTC)
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Single Rio Grande Alco PA galore.

Yampa valley traffic:
rg alco yv.jpg

I leave it to the buffs to allocate the below to the correct train, Yampa vs. Royal Gorge:
rg4pa.jpgrg3pa.jpgrg2pa.jpgrg pa.jpgrg5pa.jpg

:o)
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#1092 Posted : 19 March 2016 14:32:57(UTC)
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Some reflections further to: https://www.marklin-user...e-Rio-Grande-Moffat-Road
Watching the various videos and pix presented in above thread, I was wondering about "plausible" train lengths for US themed layouts.

A) Freight Trains

The videos of the two Rio Grande N-scale layouts show three or four Geeps - sometimes even supported by two helpers pushing in the rear - hauling between one and two dozens of freight cars, respectively. Even on larger pikes, it is impossible to match the prototype by running long freight trains with 50, 100 or even more cars. Compared to H0 scale, N scale trains are more likely to be in full view, thus need to be longer to look plausible. Using view blocks and tunnels to avoid having a full view of a train helps of course to fool the eye. When switching to H0 scale US stock, I soon abandoned my initial plan to employ more realistic 40 ft box car models by Maerklin/Trix due to "zinc pest“ inflicted warping and shifted to less realistic but more rugged 50 ft tin plate models - which are also easier to (un-)couple.

Looking at 50 ft models, my - biased - experience for freight trains is as follows:

F7 loco to 50 ft freight car ratio

1 to 3 = minimum
1 to 4 = balanced
1 to 5 = impressive
1 to 6 = looks really long

Thus, a minimum F7 loco to car ratio is 1 to 3, i.e. a F7 A-B-B-A lash-up should pull at least 12 (50 ft) freight cars (plus caboose) to look right, which would translate to 15 freight cars when using 40 ft exemplars. However, from my aesthetic point of view, that is borderline: the longer, the better. E.g., a F7 A-B-B-A with 14 (50 ft) freight cars (plus caboose) looks about right while 16 are perfect, and 20 (50 ft) box cars lead to a "wow" factor. Everything longer is pure luxury for the eyes (and a challenge on tight curves on a grade).

Anyway, the result is still a long train. An A-B-B-A loco with 12 cars and caboose occupies ca. 300 cm of track, with 16 cars and caboose that becomes already 380 cm. I resolved this by coiling sidings around curves. E.g., the circumference of a full R2 circle (12 x 24230 track segments) measures 270 cm, which "absorbs" already a lot. Since US stock has no buffers, a freight train parked on a R2 curve is a pleasant view.


(B) Passenger trains

For passenger trains, the rule of thumb is a ratio of 1 to 2, thus a F7 A-B-B-A makes a bella figure with eight coaches. And for the Alco PA, there is the example of the Santa Fe double-header pulling the very short but long-distance three-car (1 x baggage plus 2 x coach) Grand Canyon streamliner train at the end of the 1960s...

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#1093 Posted : 19 March 2016 15:53:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Prototypical excuse to mix Maerklin WP, GN, UP et al. offered by the venerable Model Railroader in special issue "Great Model Railroads 2009":
...
Context is the WP "Highline" which connected the WP Oakland – Salt Lake City main line at the Keddie Wye with the GN at Klamath Falls, Oregon.


This is enticing. In California, in the 50s/60s we can pick up "Marklin" US railroads like ATSF, GN, SP, UP, WP. In Denver we can see ATSF, CB&Q, D&RGW, UP, and occasionally TP after the MP merger with TP (really more like late 60s/70s). Perhaps a split layout, Northern California to Denver :)

-Brandon

Low resolution photographic evidence.
keddie41wye.jpg
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#1094 Posted : 23 March 2016 17:48:28(UTC)
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On the occasion of GN motive power being added to the M* portfolio:

There are EMD streamliners, E-units at 1:23-1:30 departing the Twin Cities and 27:48-30:00 traversing the Rockies as well as FT-units 0:55-1:15 leaving Minneapolis


Rio Grande would also like us to "use our head".



-Brandon
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#1095 Posted : 23 March 2016 17:50:56(UTC)
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Great work guys, awesome DRG&W photos posted, made want to see this one again, they are F3's looking very cool pulling the Zephyr in this great scene from 1954...

Glenwood Springs, Colorado

Cheers, Gordon



Gordon,

This is one of my favourite shots of the CZ. I love the look of the F3s in the four stripe livery with the silver roofs and trucks. Really sharp. Too bad there are no F units in this livery that natively run on Marklin...but we do have the Marklin Alcos sporting this paintjob.
Also a very sharp photo for the 50s.

-Brandon

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#1096 Posted : 23 March 2016 17:56:45(UTC)
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Marklin friendly ATSF freight in Eastern Colorado, check out the colours on those boxcars:

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"ATSF 35 - Jul 2 1965 - northbound freight N of Sedalia Colo"
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#1097 Posted : 23 March 2016 22:03:20(UTC)
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Rio Grande would also like us to "use our head".
Gory footage that is of people losing their health or even their lives.

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Too bad there are no F units in this livery that natively run on Marklin...
I know somebody who found a perfect substitute…
;o)

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Marklin friendly ATSF freight in Eastern Colorado, check out the colours on those boxcars:..."ATSF 35 - Jul 2 1965 - northbound freight N of Sedalia Colo"
Touché.
:o)
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#1098 Posted : 24 March 2016 02:34:36(UTC)
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Rio Grande would also like us to "use our head".
Gory footage that is of people losing their health or even their lives


It's rough out there in the wild west. They didn't pull any punches with this one, seems working for Rio Grande was a rougher life than GN!

-Brandon

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#1099 Posted : 24 March 2016 22:41:18(UTC)
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Just unearthed this photo by forum member Alfa V8 showing his F7 collection:
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#1100 Posted : 26 March 2016 18:09:04(UTC)
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Märklin 37976 MIKADO 2-8-2
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