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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek  ...or that (Franfurt/Main, Germany). Looks like a Marklin catalog form the 90s...or rather, I see where they get their inspiration :) -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek
A new layout? May I voice a wish? I would like to see something compact like that:
Ak, What are the dimensions? -Brandon Pheeew, if I knew... Lost track of the source. Looks like N scale. In Maerklin HO, incorporating/hiding some R1 curves in the tunnels, but using wider radii in the visible areas, considering the ramps for creating a twice around loop plus having some straight stretches of track, I would reckon 100 x 180 cm were needed. Edited by user 16 April 2014 16:46:24(UTC)
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Here is a similar - very ambitious - HO scale approach for which I know the dimensions: 45 x 82 cm. Considering that it is impossible to replicate such narrow curves with Maerklin track and allowing motive power to climb the hill with more than one car, the space needs at least to be doubled. Source: http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page77a/Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Here is the "satellite view". Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Track plan... Again, board dimensions need to be inflated considerably - i.e., doubled as a minimum measure - in order to match maerklinista needs. And clearances have to be adjusted, too - at least 7.5 cm without catenary. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek No carpenter? No sculptor? Everything at street-level? Flat-top designer? Narrow curves left and right of the main station? Then get inspired by the late Everett Street Station, also called Milwaukee Union Station, a railway station formerly located in downtown Milwaukee, Wisconsin (USA). A German model railroader had a go at this - see pix. Source: http://us-modellbahn.net/acela/everett.htmlAlsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Marklin Railroad Grade Crossing? Is that prototypical? Yes, it is in Timmendorfer Strand, Germany. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Curved stone viaduct adjacent to tunnel mouth in vertical in vertical cliff over endless abyss! Too dramatic? Not for the narrow gauge Rhaetian Railway in Switzerland. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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A railway bridge pinned in front the steep walls of a narrow gorge looks whimsical? Not in El Chorro, near Álora in the province of Málaga, Spain. 1) The gorge with the railway bridge on the right side. 2) Yes, indeed still in use - train on bridge in 2012 3) Close-up of train Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Facing space constraints? Stacking curved main lines above each other? Busy operations? Yes, that is realistic in Köln-Deutz, 1986. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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At the Hiwassee Loop in Tennessee, the track encircles the mountain nearly twice before crossing back over itself via a 60-foot-high trestle. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Rifle Sight Notch in Colorado on the original Denver, Northwestern and Pacific Railroad. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Maritime themed layout with seagoing vessels? Rural backdrop? Waterways crossed by rails and roads at water level? Improbable? Get inspired by Canso Canal Bridge, Nova Scotia, Canada (c. 1960). Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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And now a similar setting which could be modeled using Maerklin stock: Lindaunis Bridge over the Schlei, which is a narrow 20 miles long inlet of the Baltic Sea in Schleswig-Holstein in northern Germany. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Want to have a bridge over a stream, but have no possibility to model a high elevation? Looks unrealistic? Not in Moorhead, Minnesota (USA). Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Yes, these whimsical bridges with short trains (LINT 27 on the Biggetal-Bahn near Olpe)... Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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sorry guys. I couldn't get photo to upload.Peter
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Spotted a freight car on a stub track while coming from the "wrong" direction? If the loco cannot get to your car, let your car come to your loco.  (Flying switch on Columbia Terminal RR) |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Curved stone viaduct adjacent to tunnel mouth in vertical in vertical cliff over endless abyss! Too dramatic? Not for the narrow gauge Rhaetian Railway in Switzerland. I missed this thread for a while. I have seen this one a few times, it never ceases to amaze me. Now I suppose you'll be trying to sneak in some shots from your layout :) -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek At the Hiwassee Loop in Tennessee, the track encircles the mountain nearly twice before crossing back over itself via a 60-foot-high trestle. More Hiwassee Loop pix. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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The Bethungra Loop on the Main South railway line of New South Wales in Australia. Uphill trains use the spiral, while downhill trains use the original "straight" line. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Klisura, Bulgaria: spiral built around the town. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Former Borup Loop on the Stampede Pass route in the state of Washington, USA. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek
A new layout? May I voice a wish? I would like to see something compact like that:
Ak, What are the dimensions? -Brandon Pheeew, if I knew... Lost track of the source. Looks like N scale. In Maerklin HO, incorporating/hiding some R1 curves in the tunnels, but using wider radii in the visible areas, considering the ramps for creating a twice around loop plus having some straight stretches of track, I would reckon 100 x 180 cm were needed. Hahah! I retrieved the source: http://model-railroad-ho.../node/3262#comment-26076The work is based on the "Lilliput Logger" track plan. I understand it is 4 x 8 ft in HO scale. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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I really like this layout...I have seen some really excellent layouts. You have to get really creative if you get much smaller (I know a guy). It has it all...a line for continuous running, tracks not parallel to the edges, lots of siding an shunting possibilities, and interesting scenic options. The only catch seems to be the mountain in the middle, which restricts the view of the far side (unless the owner can install it so the layout can be viewed from 3 or more sides). The other issue could be control panel, but a MS/MS2 or other wireless controller would easily fix this issue.
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I like it a-lot. It is very creative. Yes, you would have to walk around it to get the different views but I think this just adds to the fun. Peter  
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Downtown Montreal Spaghetti Bowl. Edited by user 25 August 2014 02:10:55(UTC)
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Arnold Loop, Nevada, USA (40°56'29"N 114°16'7"W): A horseshoe curve in the former Western Pacific rail line connecting Salt Lake City with California. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA I wondered if someone would list this one ...  Unfortunately the picture doesn't show and the link goes 404 ...  So this Wikipedia Link gives some nice info and a map. This Government History Link gives some interesting history along with a picture of the construction of a nearby viaduct.
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No space for station building? Stacking is the solution: Now defunct railway station building of Piène / Piena on the still operating spectacular "ligne de Tende / linea del Tenda" between France and Italy. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Yes, but the two middle ones end at the end of the bridge on the Swedish side. Link to a map of the Haparanda - Tornio area.The bridge is between Finland and Sweden and given that the gauges are close - 1524 mm in Finland and 1435 mm in Sweden - there was no room to create a traditional three-rail track, instead this interleaved four-rail track was created. (Releated to the text on the map: Soumi is Finland in Finish and Sverige is Swedish for Sweden). This one has six usable rails ... Picton rail Ferry RampBetween this and the one at the other end is a ship to take the trains. Location: Picture at Wellington, New Zealand, northern end of the link between the North and South islands of New Zealand. The points are on the wharf, so this represents 3 tracks into the ferry, you can see them getting splayed at the far end of the ramp, so there is no need for points which take up valuable rolling stock space inside the ferry, while keeping the bridge and ferry opening to manageable sizes.
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek No space for station building? Stacking is the solution:
Now defunct railway station building of Piène / Piena on the still operating spectacular "ligne de Tende / linea del Tenda" between France and Italy. More precisely it is Piène Basse near Breil-sur-Roya in France; until the end of WW II the place belonged to Italy. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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More interesting features of that extraordinary line: (1) Bi-level bridge near Cuneo (for road and track) and (2) a glance at high line to France and low line to Italy to Italy near Breil-sur-Roya. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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And finally the unusual Bevera viaduct, (1) prototype and (2) HO model (http://www.kirnbachtaeler.de/modell/karlsruhe2010/ausstellung09-karlsruhe.html). Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek No space for station building? Stacking is the solution:
Now defunct railway station building of Piène / Piena on the still operating spectacular "ligne de Tende / linea del Tenda" between France and Italy. More precisely it is Piène Basse near Breil-sur-Roya in France; until the end of WW II the place belonged to Italy. I have a station over a train track (or two) on my layout :) |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA
I have a station over a train track (or two) on my layout :)
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Consider the Semmering railway in Austria, the first standard gauge mountain railway in Europe. More (German) info and photos: http://www.semmeringbahn.at/Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Constructed 1848-1854. Horseshoe curve, curved double-track curved viaduct? Semmering has it all. In the background the Kalte Rinne viaduct - see pic. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Ridiculous short tunnel followed by a bridge? I say only: Semmering. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Nice photo, AK. There is also a tunnel (longer than this tunnel)/bridge combo in the final scene of the 1965 Frank Sinatra film, Von Ryan's Express. I checked Wikipedia and it states filming was in Northern Italy. Cheers,Peter
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Originally Posted by: petestra Nice photo, AK. There is also a tunnel (longer than this tunnel)/bridge combo in the final scene of the 1965 Frank Sinatra film, Von Ryan's Express. I checked Wikipedia and it states filming was in Northern Italy. Cheers,Peter Amongst other places in the Santa Maria Novella station on at Florence and on the Ferrovia Dei Due Mari between Civitavecchia and Orte, namely at the stations of Capranica and Monteromano as well as at the bridge over the Mignone. The last scenes were shot at the Gorge of the Gaitanes near El Chorro in Andalucia, Spain - one of the places I presented earlier in this very thread: https://www.marklin-user...rototype.aspx#post456547Below a scene from the movie shot in Spain. Edited by user 15 September 2014 16:57:18(UTC)
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And another movie scene. The El Chorro bridge is clearly visible. This is on the old Sevilla-Cordoba line. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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HI AK, thanks for that good info. I didn't know that was in Spain. Goes to show Wiki is not always correct! Great scene and film. Peter
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It almost looks like a painting! Excellent example. |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA It almost looks like a painting! Excellent example. It's a great WWII film, Brandon. If you've never seen it, it's worth a watch. Peter
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Western Electric complex, Manhattan, New York (1936) Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/wj...24351642/in/photostream/Some of us have locos with lighted running gear. I am not sure this is prototypical historically, but even if it is added for a "museum train" this one has it so you can say it's true! (link rather than attach to give proper photo credit). -Brandon |
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