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Offline Alsterstreek  
#151 Posted : 27 February 2014 09:21:01(UTC)
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Trying to make up for above error:

Here is a short modern German freight consist - class 185 electric loco with three freight cars (Berlin, 2011).
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Offline BrandonVA  
#152 Posted : 27 February 2014 22:32:46(UTC)
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Looks like they may have forgotten the thing that goes in the middle.

Northwestern Pacific Railroad, Penngrove, California, 2012
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Offline BrandonVA  
#153 Posted : 28 February 2014 17:26:11(UTC)
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Former Norwegian Nohab working hear Canicatti Station in Italy, 2012
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Offline kbvrod  
#154 Posted : 28 February 2014 18:06:01(UTC)
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Hi all,
We have remember what the lok was actually doing,....the DB in the late 60's used BR 50-52 for shunting in yards.Bless them!BigGrin

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#155 Posted : 03 March 2014 03:25:49(UTC)
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Again: Santa Fe PA units with short passenger train at Cajon Pass in the 1960s.

Edited by user 03 March 2014 20:34:40(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#156 Posted : 03 March 2014 03:37:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
Looks like they may have forgotten the thing that goes in the middle.


I know it, I know it: The thing is called rail car. At Alaska RR they got one...
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Offline BrandonVA  
#157 Posted : 03 March 2014 20:29:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Again: Santa Fe PA unit with short passenger train at Cajon Pass in the 1960s.


Rejoice for your Marklin prototype! Alcos with no B unit!

-Brandon
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Offline kbvrod  
#158 Posted : 03 March 2014 20:48:38(UTC)
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Hi all,
I remember a photo years ago that had several BR 44's (no wagens) crossing a bridge to 'test' it's structural integrity.Woot

Dr D (glad I wasn't the driver! Tongue )
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Offline petestra  
#159 Posted : 03 March 2014 22:17:24(UTC)
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Photo in post #148 looks to me like 6 or 7 wagon SBB freight train mix, but no longer than

this? Peter Huh Cool
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Offline BrandonVA  
#160 Posted : 03 March 2014 22:30:25(UTC)
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Short train on a boat.

CP GP9 and company near Rosebery, British Columbia, Canada, 1975.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#161 Posted : 04 March 2014 09:51:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
Photo in post #148 looks to me like 6 or 7 wagon SBB freight train mix, but no longer than

this? Peter Huh Cool


That was my initial impression, too. And the first two wagons seem to be Italian type F or G wagons. Blink

But it could be that the train is either moving through an S-curve or being pulled from a siding on the far right side. If so, the remainder of the train could be obliterated by wagons 6 and 7...
Confused

Edited by user 04 March 2014 20:15:53(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline jvuye  
#162 Posted : 04 March 2014 10:42:10(UTC)
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Hello everyone...
If Slumburg was a little bit further West Wink here's one train that would definitely be fun and easy to run.
This is Union Pacific "City of Las Vegas" aka Las vegas Holiday Special, connecting Los Angeles with...Las Vegas (Duh!)
But to UP insiders it was better known as the "Crap Shooter Commuter".BigGrin
The road number of the loco clearly indicates the passengers were in a hurry to arrive at their destination!Laugh
No need for further explanation, I guess! RollEyes

(Easy to model too, I'll get to it one of these days)
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#163 Posted : 04 March 2014 11:28:09(UTC)
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After the Union Pacific Daily Livestock Livestock Special (and the more modern HOGX cars) now the Crap Shooter Commuter - what next? Woot

And I thought I would be too whimsical when naming my Fanta Se RR trains (and locos), but now it seems if reality is a parody of my fantasy.
Tongue

Are there after all prototypical examples for the Hyperventilator and Shallow Gorge streamliner or the Prairie Tramper freight trains?
RollEyes
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Offline H0  
#164 Posted : 04 March 2014 15:18:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
But it could be that the train is either moving through an S-curve or being pulled from a siding on the far right side. If so, the remainder of the train could be obliterated by wagons 6 and 7...
You can see the S curve on the free track in front.

When you check the scene with Google Maps or Bing Maps you will find that there are no turnouts around and both tracks run side by side through an S curve:
https://maps.google.de/m...Tessin,+Schweiz&z=19
http://www.bing.com/maps...llinzona&form=LMLTCC

So I think it is very likely that all the freight cars we see are one train (or were one train that was split at Bellinzona (but I think this is rather unlikely)).
Regards
Tom
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Offline BrandonVA  
#165 Posted : 04 March 2014 15:37:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

Are there after all prototypical examples for the Hyperventilator and Shallow Gorge streamliner or the Prairie Tramper freight trains?
RollEyes


What about the PRR "Cannon Ball", Rock Island "Choctaw Rocket", NYC "Cincinnati Mercury", NH "Commander" or Chicago and Eastern Illinois "Curfew"? :) And those are the official names....

-Brandon
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Offline BrandonVA  
#166 Posted : 04 March 2014 20:21:28(UTC)
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Southern Pacific 202 (Gerber Local), 1956. Location unlisted, possibly near Medford, Oregon.
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-Brandon
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Offline BrandonVA  
#167 Posted : 04 March 2014 20:44:47(UTC)
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For those who have been struggling due to lack of 1:87 locos and stock for these consists...here are a couple we can model:

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BR75 018 at Böblingen railway facilities running a commuter train in the late 50s....although BR75 is pretty borderline on a big loco.

So I don't get in trouble for BR75, attached BR 41 360 pulling a short consist, but a lot of fuel :)
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#168 Posted : 04 March 2014 20:45:09(UTC)
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Or New Haven's Snow Trains, like the 'Ski Meister' (sic) and 'Snow Train Jr.'.

More info:
http://www.nhrhta.org/htdocs/images0198.htm
http://www.bostonglobe.c...JxGuW5J/story.html?pic=2
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#169 Posted : 04 March 2014 20:54:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
...although BR75 is pretty borderline on a big loco.


We'll pretend it's a big loco.Smile

Offline BrandonVA  
#170 Posted : 04 March 2014 21:21:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post

We'll pretend it's a big loco.Smile


It's big compared to this guy! (GE 25 ton switcher of Great Lakes Central)
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Offline Janne75  
#171 Posted : 04 March 2014 21:36:34(UTC)
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Hi,

You have all found great looking photos ThumpUp . Can you find any of DRG Kittel with some wagons? I would be very interested to see how it was running. Without wagons or with some wagons? I will try to find some myself too...

Edit: All the photos I can find has only the Kittel, but no wagons.

Janne
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#172 Posted : 04 March 2014 22:50:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Janne75 Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

You have all found great looking photos ThumpUp . Can you find any of DRG Kittel with some wagons? I would be very interested to see how it was running. Without wagons or with some wagons? I will try to find some myself too...

Edit: All the photos I can find has only the Kittel, but no wagons.

Janne


Voilà!
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#173 Posted : 05 March 2014 06:10:46(UTC)
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Hi,

Here is a short train on my layout.

First a Pacific loco, 231A975 (Marklin 3317 with latest mfx decoder).
Then a CIWL Orient Express diner car (Marklin 346/2j from 1950s).
Then a freight baggage (VB model catalogue #23 all metal from 1950s).
Then a 6 wheel local coach (Marklin 4204)
And a 4 wheel local coach (Fleischmann 1406 from 1950s repainted for SNCF).

The CIWL car is being sent to the CIWL works at St Denis in Paris for refurbishment.
This car usually runs between Kehl and Munchen.
It has been joined to a local SNCF train from St Rufus (an imaginary border town on my layout) to a town further west, Saint-dié-des-Vosges.
There the CIWL car will be taken on to Paris by another train.

http://qldrail.net/altkloster/sncf231shorttrain.jpg

regards
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Offline Janne75  
#174 Posted : 05 March 2014 08:02:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Janne75 Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

You have all found great looking photos ThumpUp . Can you find any of DRG Kittel with some wagons? I would be very interested to see how it was running. Without wagons or with some wagons? I will try to find some myself too...

Edit: All the photos I can find has only the Kittel, but no wagons.

Janne


Voilà!


Thank you very much! So it has the power to pull at least one wagon, so I give my 34251 DRG a try with three wagons (Märklin DRG set 43019). I will get this set very soon. Ross (Mulldog Lemon) sold to me his other set. Kittel has so small motor also in this 1:87 model that three light wagons will be the max lenght consist for it. Looks good with only one wagon too like in these photos.

Here is some information about the Wurt. Kittel and it has only 80 hp power Blink . Maybe it still has more torque anyway than my daily driver Ford Mondeo LOL :

Württembergischer DW

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#175 Posted : 05 March 2014 09:35:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Here is a short train on my layout.

First a Pacific loco, 231A975 (Marklin 3317 with latest mfx decoder).
Then a CIWL Orient Express diner car (Marklin 346/2j from 1950s).
Then a freight baggage (VB model catalogue #23 all metal from 1950s).
Then a 6 wheel local coach (Marklin 4204)
And a 4 wheel local coach (Fleischmann 1406 from 1950s repainted for SNCF).

The CIWL car is being sent to the CIWL works at St Denis in Paris for refurbishment.
This car usually runs between Kehl and Munchen.
It has been joined to a local SNCF train from St Rufus (an imaginary border town on my layout) to a town further west, Saint-dié-des-Vosges.
There the CIWL car will be taken on to Paris by another train.

regards
Kimball


Tried to find a prototypical photo, but found "only" this 231K with CIWL equipment.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#176 Posted : 05 March 2014 09:38:58(UTC)
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And during the research I found this short consist: SNCF BB 7284 with two sleepers.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#177 Posted : 06 March 2014 21:44:46(UTC)
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This ICE train in Lensahn, Germany (2013) running from Copenhagen to Hamburg is just 4 units:

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#178 Posted : 07 March 2014 12:07:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
This ICE train in Lensahn, Germany (2013) running from Copenhagen to Hamburg is just 4 units:


Nice. And dieselized. And taking a train ferry. And green northern Germany Smile

I attach photos:

1) meeting in Denmark of a four-unit DB ICE TD with a three-unit DSB IC3, the latter being the predecessor serving this route.
2) ICE TD leaving ferry at Puttgarden in Germany.
3) ICE TD meeting DR (?) class 50 steamer in Chemnitz, Germany.

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_TD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC3

Edited by user 07 March 2014 15:59:35(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Western Pacific  
#179 Posted : 09 March 2014 10:58:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
This ICE train in Lensahn, Germany (2013) running from Copenhagen to Hamburg is just 4 units:


Nice. And dieselized. And taking a train ferry. And green northern Germany Smile

I attach photos:

1) meeting in Denmark of a four-unit DB ICE TD with a three-unit DSB IC3, the latter being the predecessor serving this route.
2) ICE TD leaving ferry at Puttgarden in Germany.
3) ICE TD meeting DR (?) class 50 steamer in Chemnitz, Germany.

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_TD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC3


If you look closely at the first photo you will notice that the "DB ICE TD" actually has the DSB logo. This is one of the ICE TDs leased by DSB from DB AG.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#180 Posted : 18 March 2014 15:56:31(UTC)
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Short SNCF freight train hauled by CC 6500 between La Praz and Orelle in France, 1972.
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#181 Posted : 21 March 2014 15:40:35(UTC)
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Portuguese class 1935 diesels with three Soreframe coaches in various locations.
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#182 Posted : 28 March 2014 10:58:42(UTC)
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1994 special train on the Malente–Lütjenburg railway in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein. Photos taken at Lütjenburg Station.
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#183 Posted : 28 March 2014 11:03:17(UTC)
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Let's stay in the neighborhood: Short freight train in Eutin, 1980s.
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#184 Posted : 28 March 2014 11:19:30(UTC)
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Still nearby: Puttgarden ferry port, Germany, 1978.
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#185 Posted : 28 March 2014 18:18:17(UTC)
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Büchen in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein.
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#186 Posted : 28 March 2014 18:20:11(UTC)
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Again Puttgarden ferry port - three to two.
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#187 Posted : 28 March 2014 18:30:31(UTC)
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TEE Merkur on Fehmarn Sound Bridge, 1978.
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#188 Posted : 28 March 2014 21:31:28(UTC)
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Here's a pretty short CN train.
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#189 Posted : 29 March 2014 13:51:51(UTC)
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Did we already have this one? Rio Grande Royal Gorge, 1967?

Edited by user 15 April 2014 07:23:14(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#190 Posted : 02 April 2014 18:56:27(UTC)
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Short express hauled by a class 110 in Wuerzburg, 1984.
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#191 Posted : 02 April 2014 18:58:40(UTC)
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Short Trans Europe Express (TEE) in the Bavarian Allgaeu region hauled by class 218.
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#192 Posted : 02 April 2014 19:01:20(UTC)
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1) Class 210 with TEE in Lindau on Lake Constance, 1971.
2) Class 210 with TEE in Munich, 1973
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#193 Posted : 03 April 2014 16:13:27(UTC)
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Double-headed EMD F-units with four coaches qualify, I would say: Monon´s "Hoosier" at the 21st Street interlocker in Chicago, 1950's.
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#194 Posted : 04 April 2014 15:40:48(UTC)
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Georgia Railroad, Atlanta, 1971: Three locos with a single coach (Actually a "mixed train" with revenue cars still to be picked up subsequently).
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#195 Posted : 04 April 2014 15:50:55(UTC)
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Kosovo, 2009: Nohab with two coaches.
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#196 Posted : 10 April 2014 21:12:53(UTC)
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One Santa Fe E unit with three coaches.
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#197 Posted : 10 April 2014 22:05:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Now, co-introducing executive guest superstar Fanta Se "shortliner" Alco PA:


Double-headed Santa Fe Alco PA with four coaches in Chilicothe, IL, 1960s.

Edited by user 06 December 2014 10:22:04(UTC)  | Reason: Typo

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#198 Posted : 14 April 2014 09:31:49(UTC)
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Rather short long distance freight train.
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#199 Posted : 15 April 2014 06:39:30(UTC)
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You had a great idea.BigGrin
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#200 Posted : 15 April 2014 07:19:51(UTC)
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No, you did.
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