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Trying to make up for above error: Here is a short modern German freight consist - class 185 electric loco with three freight cars (Berlin, 2011). Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Looks like they may have forgotten the thing that goes in the middle. Northwestern Pacific Railroad, Penngrove, California, 2012 BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Former Norwegian Nohab working hear Canicatti Station in Italy, 2012 BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Hi all, We have remember what the lok was actually doing,....the DB in the late 60's used BR 50-52 for shunting in yards.Bless them!  Dr D
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Again: Santa Fe PA units with short passenger train at Cajon Pass in the 1960s. Edited by user 03 March 2014 20:34:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  Looks like they may have forgotten the thing that goes in the middle. I know it, I know it: The thing is called rail car. At Alaska RR they got one... Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Again: Santa Fe PA unit with short passenger train at Cajon Pass in the 1960s. Rejoice for your Marklin prototype! Alcos with no B unit! -Brandon |
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Hi all, I remember a photo years ago that had several BR 44's (no wagens) crossing a bridge to 'test' it's structural integrity.  Dr D (glad I wasn't the driver!  )
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Photo in post #148 looks to me like 6 or 7 wagon SBB freight train mix, but no longer than this? Peter  
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Short train on a boat. CP GP9 and company near Rosebery, British Columbia, Canada, 1975. BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: petestra Photo in post #148 looks to me like 6 or 7 wagon SBB freight train mix, but no longer than this? Peter That was my initial impression, too. And the first two wagons seem to be Italian type F or G wagons.  But it could be that the train is either moving through an S-curve or being pulled from a siding on the far right side. If so, the remainder of the train could be obliterated by wagons 6 and 7...  Edited by user 04 March 2014 20:15:53(UTC)
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Hello everyone... If Slumburg was a little bit further West  here's one train that would definitely be fun and easy to run. This is Union Pacific "City of Las Vegas" aka Las vegas Holiday Special, connecting Los Angeles with...Las Vegas (Duh!) But to UP insiders it was better known as the "Crap Shooter Commuter". The road number of the loco clearly indicates the passengers were in a hurry to arrive at their destination!  No need for further explanation, I guess!  (Easy to model too, I'll get to it one of these days) jvuye attached the following image(s): |
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After the Union Pacific Daily Livestock Livestock Special (and the more modern HOGX cars) now the Crap Shooter Commuter - what next? And I thought I would be too whimsical when naming my Fanta Se RR trains (and locos), but now it seems if reality is a parody of my fantasy. Are there after all prototypical examples for the Hyperventilator and Shallow Gorge streamliner or the Prairie Tramper freight trains? |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek But it could be that the train is either moving through an S-curve or being pulled from a siding on the far right side. If so, the remainder of the train could be obliterated by wagons 6 and 7... You can see the S curve on the free track in front. When you check the scene with Google Maps or Bing Maps you will find that there are no turnouts around and both tracks run side by side through an S curve: https://maps.google.de/m...Tessin,+Schweiz&z=19http://www.bing.com/maps...llinzona&form=LMLTCCSo I think it is very likely that all the freight cars we see are one train (or were one train that was split at Bellinzona (but I think this is rather unlikely)). |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Are there after all prototypical examples for the Hyperventilator and Shallow Gorge streamliner or the Prairie Tramper freight trains? What about the PRR "Cannon Ball", Rock Island "Choctaw Rocket", NYC "Cincinnati Mercury", NH "Commander" or Chicago and Eastern Illinois "Curfew"? :) And those are the official names.... -Brandon |
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Southern Pacific 202 (Gerber Local), 1956. Location unlisted, possibly near Medford, Oregon.  -Brandon |
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For those who have been struggling due to lack of 1:87 locos and stock for these consists...here are a couple we can model:  BR75 018 at Böblingen railway facilities running a commuter train in the late 50s....although BR75 is pretty borderline on a big loco. So I don't get in trouble for BR75, attached BR 41 360 pulling a short consist, but a lot of fuel :) BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA ...although BR75 is pretty borderline on a big loco. We'll pretend it's a big loco.  |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek We'll pretend it's a big loco. It's big compared to this guy! (GE 25 ton switcher of Great Lakes Central) BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Hi, You have all found great looking photos  . Can you find any of DRG Kittel with some wagons? I would be very interested to see how it was running. Without wagons or with some wagons? I will try to find some myself too... Edit: All the photos I can find has only the Kittel, but no wagons. Janne |
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Originally Posted by: Janne75 Hi, You have all found great looking photos . Can you find any of DRG Kittel with some wagons? I would be very interested to see how it was running. Without wagons or with some wagons? I will try to find some myself too... Edit: All the photos I can find has only the Kittel, but no wagons. Janne Voilà! Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Hi, Here is a short train on my layout. First a Pacific loco, 231A975 (Marklin 3317 with latest mfx decoder). Then a CIWL Orient Express diner car (Marklin 346/2j from 1950s). Then a freight baggage (VB model catalogue #23 all metal from 1950s). Then a 6 wheel local coach (Marklin 4204) And a 4 wheel local coach (Fleischmann 1406 from 1950s repainted for SNCF). The CIWL car is being sent to the CIWL works at St Denis in Paris for refurbishment. This car usually runs between Kehl and Munchen. It has been joined to a local SNCF train from St Rufus (an imaginary border town on my layout) to a town further west, Saint-dié-des-Vosges. There the CIWL car will be taken on to Paris by another train.  regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: Janne75 Hi, You have all found great looking photos . Can you find any of DRG Kittel with some wagons? I would be very interested to see how it was running. Without wagons or with some wagons? I will try to find some myself too... Edit: All the photos I can find has only the Kittel, but no wagons. Janne Voilà! Thank you very much! So it has the power to pull at least one wagon, so I give my 34251 DRG a try with three wagons (Märklin DRG set 43019). I will get this set very soon. Ross (Mulldog Lemon) sold to me his other set. Kittel has so small motor also in this 1:87 model that three light wagons will be the max lenght consist for it. Looks good with only one wagon too like in these photos. Here is some information about the Wurt. Kittel and it has only 80 hp power . Maybe it still has more torque anyway than my daily driver Ford Mondeo  : Württembergischer DWJanne |
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi,
Here is a short train on my layout.
First a Pacific loco, 231A975 (Marklin 3317 with latest mfx decoder).
Then a CIWL Orient Express diner car (Marklin 346/2j from 1950s).
Then a freight baggage (VB model catalogue #23 all metal from 1950s).
Then a 6 wheel local coach (Marklin 4204)
And a 4 wheel local coach (Fleischmann 1406 from 1950s repainted for SNCF).
The CIWL car is being sent to the CIWL works at St Denis in Paris for refurbishment.
This car usually runs between Kehl and Munchen.
It has been joined to a local SNCF train from St Rufus (an imaginary border town on my layout) to a town further west, Saint-dié-des-Vosges.
There the CIWL car will be taken on to Paris by another train.
regards
Kimball Tried to find a prototypical photo, but found "only" this 231K with CIWL equipment. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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And during the research I found this short consist: SNCF BB 7284 with two sleepers. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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This ICE train in Lensahn, Germany (2013) running from Copenhagen to Hamburg is just 4 units:  |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA This ICE train in Lensahn, Germany (2013) running from Copenhagen to Hamburg is just 4 units: Nice. And dieselized. And taking a train ferry. And green northern Germany I attach photos: 1) meeting in Denmark of a four-unit DB ICE TD with a three-unit DSB IC3, the latter being the predecessor serving this route. 2) ICE TD leaving ferry at Puttgarden in Germany. 3) ICE TD meeting DR (?) class 50 steamer in Chemnitz, Germany. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_TDhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC3Edited by user 07 March 2014 15:59:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Originally Posted by: BrandonVA This ICE train in Lensahn, Germany (2013) running from Copenhagen to Hamburg is just 4 units: Nice. And dieselized. And taking a train ferry. And green northern Germany I attach photos: 1) meeting in Denmark of a four-unit DB ICE TD with a three-unit DSB IC3, the latter being the predecessor serving this route. 2) ICE TD leaving ferry at Puttgarden in Germany. 3) ICE TD meeting DR (?) class 50 steamer in Chemnitz, Germany. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_TDhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC3 If you look closely at the first photo you will notice that the "DB ICE TD" actually has the DSB logo. This is one of the ICE TDs leased by DSB from DB AG.
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Short SNCF freight train hauled by CC 6500 between La Praz and Orelle in France, 1972. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Portuguese class 1935 diesels with three Soreframe coaches in various locations. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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1994 special train on the Malente–Lütjenburg railway in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein. Photos taken at Lütjenburg Station. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Let's stay in the neighborhood: Short freight train in Eutin, 1980s. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Still nearby: Puttgarden ferry port, Germany, 1978. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Büchen in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Again Puttgarden ferry port - three to two. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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TEE Merkur on Fehmarn Sound Bridge, 1978. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Here's a pretty short CN train. BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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Did we already have this one? Rio Grande Royal Gorge, 1967? Edited by user 15 April 2014 07:23:14(UTC)
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Short express hauled by a class 110 in Wuerzburg, 1984. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Short Trans Europe Express (TEE) in the Bavarian Allgaeu region hauled by class 218. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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1) Class 210 with TEE in Lindau on Lake Constance, 1971. 2) Class 210 with TEE in Munich, 1973 Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Double-headed EMD F-units with four coaches qualify, I would say: Monon´s "Hoosier" at the 21st Street interlocker in Chicago, 1950's. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Georgia Railroad, Atlanta, 1971: Three locos with a single coach (Actually a "mixed train" with revenue cars still to be picked up subsequently). Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Kosovo, 2009: Nohab with two coaches. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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One Santa Fe E unit with three coaches. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Now, co-introducing executive guest superstar Fanta Se "shortliner" Alco PA: Double-headed Santa Fe Alco PA with four coaches in Chilicothe, IL, 1960s. Edited by user 06 December 2014 10:22:04(UTC)
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Rather short long distance freight train. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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