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Offline RayF  
#1 Posted : 15 August 2012 13:12:12(UTC)
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I'm considering investing in one of the Lux-Modelbau track cleaning wagons, and would like some comments or suggestions from members who may be using these.

From their website I can see that they make two main types. One of them has an inbuilt vaccuum cleaner and a fixed brush for cleaning the rail tops. The other one has a rail polisher or grinder with different interchangeable brushes which rotate for more cleaning action, but no vaccuum. They also make a set with one of each.

How effective are these cleaners? Do you need to use them very often?

I would appreciate any advice.

Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline nevw  
#2 Posted : 15 August 2012 23:25:47(UTC)
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Ray, I have the double set and I found them very effective, probably one or twice around the track about once every 6 weeks or so. The Vac picks up a lot of very fine stuff and the felt brush(the only one I used) was great. it is a great set.
from memory the address is 78.


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Offline arconell  
#3 Posted : 16 August 2012 01:08:34(UTC)
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Hi Ray,

I have the vacuum cleaner which I run together with Märklins cleaner car, 46042. It works just fine on my C-and K-track layout but for some reason the vacuum cleaner works better on the C-tracks. Probably because my K´s have real gravel between the ties and fine dust etc. gets stuck between the grains?? Since I run the vacuum cleaner I have noticed less clogged dirt and dust build-up on gears and axles. So yes, I am pleased with it except for the dreadful noise it produces while running... Oh well, there is always a trade-off :-)

Btw, you don´t necessarily need the digital version of the vac car, the standard version (8810) will run and operate perfectly on digital, it is equipped with a movement sensor so that the vac motor only operates when the car is moving on the tracks. When you stop the car (i.e. the loco pushing it) the vac motor stops in 2 or 3 sec.

Regards, Robert
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#4 Posted : 16 August 2012 02:34:55(UTC)
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I'm thinking of getting these as well. You should be able to purchase both cars as a combined package.
Offline nevw  
#5 Posted : 16 August 2012 06:04:30(UTC)
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The Vac , scrubber car set is a different part number and without looking at prices I think they are a bit cheaper than buying individual cars

NN
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#6 Posted : 16 August 2012 06:15:41(UTC)
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$499 USD from Mike at Euromodeltrains for the 2 cars.

http://www.euromodeltrains.com
Offline nevw  
#7 Posted : 16 August 2012 07:28:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
$499 USD from Mike at Euromodeltrains for the 2 cars.

http://www.euromodeltrains.com


But then VAT and postage to be factored in.

ETS Price for the double pack inc decoder 368 EURO Inc VAT (439US)
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Offline RayF  
#8 Posted : 16 August 2012 08:43:31(UTC)
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Thanks guys.

The combined set is a bit pricey. Maybe I can get just the vaccuum car this year and the other car next year, to spread out the expense.

Lokshop don't seem to have the 8810. They quote a 8830 for €172.

This is the description: "LUX-Modellbau H0-Gleisstaubsaugerwagen AC mit Faulhaber-Motor und Steuerelektronik SSF-09 Automatische Start- / Stopp- Funktion. Analog und digital einsetzbar."

I can't find this model on the Lux-Modelbau website. Is this a new model replacing the 8810?
Ray
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Offline nevw  
#9 Posted : 16 August 2012 09:03:42(UTC)
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Not sure Ray BUT If I remember correctly it is on the ETS Site. Or was it . I think they showed the new number and then other part numbers after the description so it may replace the older models.

LUX show the old numbers but then they are very slow to alter so perhaps it is a new number.


Nev
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Offline Unholz  
#10 Posted : 16 August 2012 09:34:14(UTC)
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I have been using the 8810 successfully for many years and can recommend it. I was less happy with the "Schleifwagen" 9010 because the "metallic" type of brush it came with (9046) seemed too abrasive for my taste.
Offline RayF  
#11 Posted : 16 August 2012 09:40:35(UTC)
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Thanks Nev and Stefan.

I'll go with the 8810 or 8830 this year, and see if I feel the need to also get the 9010 at another time.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#12 Posted : 16 August 2012 09:48:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nevw Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
$499 USD from Mike at Euromodeltrains for the 2 cars.

http://www.euromodeltrains.com


But then VAT and postage to be factored in.

ETS Price for the double pack inc decoder 368 EURO Inc VAT (439US)



9630 is the item number for the AC double pack. Lokshop's price is 336.45 EUR inc VAT.
Offline nevw  
#13 Posted : 16 August 2012 11:13:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
I have been using the 8810 successfully for many years and can recommend it. I was less happy with the "Schleifwagen" 9010 because the "metallic" type of brush it came with (9046) seemed too abrasive for my taste.


Stefan, when I ordered mine I ordered the Felt type of Brush. In fact about 3 of them and have never used the abrasive brush that came with the unit.
nev
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Offline Dreadnought  
#14 Posted : 16 August 2012 21:28:02(UTC)
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I have the set with two cars. I run the rotating brush car in front followed by the vacuum to clean up what may have been loosened. In a prior thread I went through tack cleaning options, and spoke of the Lux cars.
I run them slowly over the layout about everythree weeks, or if I have been away for some time. I use my slowest, and strongest puller, my 0 8 0 tank. My brush car has something that looks like steel wool, but is a type of plastic.
The set was expensive, about C$ 450.
It is noisy, but I think does a good job. I am pleased with it, and would recommend it.
Offline Dreadnought  
#15 Posted : 16 October 2012 21:52:04(UTC)
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To update my lt post on this subject.
My Lux car with the revolving wheel was making noises similar to a locomotive in need of oiling. I took the cover off. I could not see anything that looked as if it needed oiling. I blew it out, in case it was just dust. This made no difference.
I took it into my dealer. He was a bit unsure of what it might be. He confessed he had never "dissected" one of the Lux cars. After some guessing, he took a screwdriver and tightened up the various screws that hold the various wheels and rollers in place. That worked. I felt foolish to have not thought of that, or try it myself. Having created some expensive repair jobs by doing it myself. I was reluctant to mess with it.
It is now back on the layout, and working happily.
Offline RayF  
#16 Posted : 16 October 2012 23:56:43(UTC)
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Thanks for the info.

I will probably get myself one or both of these wagons next month. If I only get one I'll get the Vaccuum car, and maybe next year get the grinding car.
Ray
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Offline Mark5  
#17 Posted : 17 October 2012 06:17:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for the info.

I will probably get myself one or both of these wagons next month. If I only get one I'll get the Vaccuum car, and maybe next year get the grinding car.


I think my wife might like a new vacuum cleaner of her own first.... but this addresses a very important question, slightly OT if you will forgive me, but is there another way to use a vacuum cleaner. Would a normal vacuum cleaner be too strong, or just not be able to easily get into the places that this model should.

Looks like a beautiful model set, I must say.

Please update on this post or elsewhere how that works out for you, Ray.

Would really love to know the alternatives as well too.
Anyone?

Cheers
Mark
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Offline RayF  
#18 Posted : 17 October 2012 08:56:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for the info.

I will probably get myself one or both of these wagons next month. If I only get one I'll get the Vaccuum car, and maybe next year get the grinding car.


I think my wife might like a new vacuum cleaner of her own first.... but this addresses a very important question, slightly OT if you will forgive me, but is there another way to use a vacuum cleaner. Would a normal vacuum cleaner be too strong, or just not be able to easily get into the places that this model should.

Looks like a beautiful model set, I must say.

Please update on this post or elsewhere how that works out for you, Ray.

Would really love to know the alternatives as well too.
Anyone?

Cheers
Mark


Hi Mark,

I used a normal household vaccuum cleaner at first, but too many details started disappearing from the layout. I started getting complaints from the Preiser police about their growing list of missing persons. BigGrin

At the moment I use a portable vaccuum cleaner, which is not as powerful, and also easier to control. The trouble is that the catenary gets in the way.

I'll report back here on the effectiveness or otherwise of the Lux modellbau product if/when I get it as planned next month.
Ray
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Offline hennabm  
#19 Posted : 17 October 2012 18:18:59(UTC)
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Hi Ray and all

having started to read this thread my first thoughts were the same as Mark's - why not use a normal vacuum. Hoever I can see that unless flock etc are stuck really well then bits will keep disappearing along with the populationOhMyGod

The prices quoted do seem rather high to me for a track cleaning kit so I will be very interested in your experiences Ray if/when you purchase said machines.

Maybe I can be convincedConfused

Mike
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Offline Ian555  
#20 Posted : 17 October 2012 18:44:09(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Filter on the end of the vacuum hose (pair of tight's etc.), cuts down on the suction and saves on the layout population...Smile

Ian.

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#21 Posted : 17 October 2012 19:13:31(UTC)
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Hi Ian

Good idea ThumpUp although I didn't know you wore tightsLOL

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Offline Dreadnought  
#22 Posted : 17 October 2012 20:15:51(UTC)
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For what it is worth, I can say I am quite pleased with the Lux set. It is particularly useful to do routine cleaning in hard to reach places, and under catenary. I used to find cleaning by hand under catenary I would disturb it just enough that locomotives would snag. The alternative was to not clean under the catenary. This was particularly true where it was a span of three or more tracks.
I do a run every two weeks or so, more if I am having problems with locomotives "stalling"
Offline kbvrod  
#23 Posted : 17 October 2012 21:25:12(UTC)
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Hi Ray,all,

>From their website I can see that they make two main types. One of them has an inbuilt vaccuum cleaner and a fixed brush for cleaning the rail tops. The other one has a rail polisher or grinder with different interchangeable brushes which rotate for more cleaning action, but no vaccuum. They also make a set with one of each.

How effective are these cleaners? Do you need to use them very often?<

First of all Ray,if you can afford them,get them.So you can run your trains.Every one I know has them,recommends them.M 3 rail was supposed to eliminate the problems of 2 rail(clean tracks) yet with the advert of digital,clean rails is a priority for function. DCC has solved this problem however.

Anyhow,...there are other things to keep in mind.

Environment of the train room.Dust,Dew Point.------Cats!Laugh

Maintenance program,this included keep the tracks clean by running a rail cleaning wagen in 'regular' trains,always!
A few other notes: I went on vacation with my family or I went on a two week business trip,or I had other things in my life that prevented me from running my layout.
Wheels:not only loks!Your wheels from your goods/passenger wagens will spread the gunk!You cleaning those to?

Dr Dirt


Offline Ian555  
#24 Posted : 17 October 2012 21:35:02(UTC)
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Hi Ian

Good idea ThumpUp although I didn't know you wore tightsLOL

Mike




Hi Mike,

I need all the support I can get.....LOL

Ian.

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Offline Mark5  
#25 Posted : 17 October 2012 21:39:11(UTC)
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Thanks for suggestions and chuckles BigGrin

.... imagining the Preiser Police out in force chasing down Ian for stealing pantyhose.



The Flieschman track cleaning wagon is one of the few purchases of rolling stock I made as a kid, but never felt it did much.
Perhaps I didn't run it enough. Anyone use a thing like this effectively?

- Mark
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Offline kbvrod  
#26 Posted : 17 October 2012 22:18:50(UTC)
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Hi Mark,all,

>.... imagining the Preiser Police out in force chasing down Ian for stealing pantyhose. <


Let's not go there,....LOL



>The Flieschman track cleaning wagon is one of the few purchases of rolling stock I made as a kid, but never felt it did much.
Perhaps I didn't run it enough. Anyone use a thing like this effectively?<

Two things,or many,....
Most cleaning wagens lack weight,to scrub the rails,nor are the pads or replacements cleaned/changed enough.
Now Weinert makes some nice all metal cleaning cars,....

Dr D

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Offline GlennM  
#27 Posted : 18 October 2012 14:38:46(UTC)
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Hi Mark,all,

>.... imagining the Preiser Police out in force chasing down Ian for stealing pantyhose. <


Let's not go there,....LOL







Wow I did not know Ian had been stealing pantyhose.................................................It must be all those banana's.......................LOL LOL
Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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Offline Ian555  
#28 Posted : 18 October 2012 15:13:33(UTC)
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Hi all,

Come on guy's, you're stretching it a bit are you not.....LOL

Ian.




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Offline Rinus  
#29 Posted : 18 October 2012 19:43:23(UTC)
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Hi all,

I got the:
- Grinding + vacuumcleaner set (LUX-Modellbau 9630 H0-Doppelpack AC~ Wechselstrom Märklin)
- Third rail cleaner (LUX-Modellbau 9136 MRL1 Mittelleiterreinigungswagen mit Faulhaber-Motor,Akkustation und Steuerelektronik SSF-09 Automatische Start- / Stopp- Funktion, Analog und digital einsetzbar)

About the Lux train at Lokshop.de Lux items

Some movies (not my own!)





Lux is a small german firm specialized in cleaning devices and switch control. High quality and a bit expensive.. but worth every eurocent.

I got some brochures in PDF from them. If you're interested send me an email, so I can forward them.

Rinus
Offline kbvrod  
#30 Posted : 18 October 2012 21:17:16(UTC)
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Hi all,

Come on guy's, you're stretching it a bit are you not.....LOL

Ian.


Ian,are pulling our leg(s),like a scrum?Flapper

Dr D

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#31 Posted : 18 October 2012 22:55:37(UTC)
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Hi Rinus, are there any extra consumables (brushes, cleaning fluid, etc) you need to buy for the cars, or can you get away with buying just the cars?

Does the 9136 car do a better job of cleaning the 3rd rail that the 9130 car, or do you need them both? Thanks.
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#32 Posted : 19 October 2012 10:49:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Hi Rinus, are there any extra consumables (brushes, cleaning fluid, etc) you need to buy for the cars, or can you get away with buying just the cars?

Does the 9136 car do a better job of cleaning the 3rd rail that the 9130 car, or do you need them both? Thanks.


Hi,

I just bought the 3rd rail cleaner 9136 to get rid of some glue on the 3rd rail after ballasting. Before that I had only the combo vacuum cleaner and polisher, which was fine. I see the 3rd rail cleaner as a nice extra. The 3rd rail cleaner seems to have some problems with K trach switches.

You don't need to order extra brushes etc.. to operate them, since all is included. I did order a felt brush, to replace the polishing brush however. Makes the tracks nice and shiny! I also ordered some spare brushes for the 3rd rail cleaner, just to save shipping costs in the future.

One downside: the buffers fall of easily. Glue them.

Rinus
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Offline Mark5  
#33 Posted : 19 October 2012 21:27:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Hi Rinus, are there any extra consumables (brushes, cleaning fluid, etc) you need to buy for the cars, or can you get away with buying just the cars?

Does the 9136 car do a better job of cleaning the 3rd rail that the 9130 car, or do you need them both? Thanks.


Hi,

I just bought the 3rd rail cleaner 9136 to get rid of some glue on the 3rd rail after ballasting. Before that I had only the combo vacuum cleaner and polisher, which was fine. I see the 3rd rail cleaner as a nice extra. The 3rd rail cleaner seems to have some problems with K trach switches.

You don't need to order extra brushes etc.. to operate them, since all is included. I did order a felt brush, to replace the polishing brush however. Makes the tracks nice and shiny! I also ordered some spare brushes for the 3rd rail cleaner, just to save shipping costs in the future.

One downside: the buffers fall of easily. Glue them.

Rinus


One thought I had on having a machine polishing tracks. Would it not remove the protective layer that prevents rust?
How thick is the layer on Marklin rails? Or is that only possible by sanding it down with emery paper?

- Mark
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#34 Posted : 19 October 2012 21:55:34(UTC)
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I purchased the the three lux cars about a year ago (vacuum cleaner, grinder and third-rail scraper), and all I can say is that I have mixed feelings abou them.

For starters, I must say tht the vacuum cleaner does indeed a great job. However, I am very much less excited about the grider car, which does not seem to collect the oil from the rails that efficiently. Even after running it several times around the layout, my finger will still get dirty from stuck-on oil, if I run it over the rail. So, an extra treatment with a cleaning car or by manual intervention (cloth soaked in some smoke fluid or similar) has been necessary.

Another annoying problem is that when the vacuum cleaner and grinder set run coupled together, they do not seem to like the wide-angled C-track turnouts too much. More often than not, they get stuck on them and short-circuit my CS2. I have resorted to having to run each car sepately, and even so, sometimes the same problem kicks in.

I've been contemplating the possibility of writing to the Lux people in Germany to try to get more detailed operating instructions on these models.

In addition, I purchased the Lux wheel cleaning module. However, I haven't used it yet.

Cheers!
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline kbvrod  
#35 Posted : 19 October 2012 22:01:00(UTC)
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Hi Mark,all,

>One thought I had on having a machine polishing tracks. Would it not remove the protective layer that prevents rust?
How thick is the layer on Marklin rails?<

M-tracks?

>Or is that only possible by sanding it down with emery paper?<

Never do that.

Dr D




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#36 Posted : 20 October 2012 03:29:55(UTC)
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I have had both the Vac and the Tracking for about 4 years know. They do a very good job but I have to say the quality of the workmanship is rubbish. When you pick them up and look at them and how they are made it makes you appreciate the quality of Marklin products. When you sit the units on my c track none of the nem boxes are the same height.

Charles.
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Offline Loadmaster  
#37 Posted : 20 October 2012 05:04:54(UTC)
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Thanks Charles for your imput.

I think I'm going to give this prospective purchase a serious investigation.

Rob
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Offline Rinus  
#38 Posted : 20 October 2012 15:20:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
I purchased the the three lux cars about a year ago (vacuum cleaner, grinder and third-rail scraper), and all I can say is that I have mixed feelings abou them.

For starters, I must say tht the vacuum cleaner does indeed a great job. However, I am very much less excited about the grider car, which does not seem to collect the oil from the rails that efficiently. Even after running it several times around the layout, my finger will still get dirty from stuck-on oil, if I run it over the rail. So, an extra treatment with a cleaning car or by manual intervention (cloth soaked in some smoke fluid or similar) has been necessary.

.....

In addition, I purchased the Lux wheel cleaning module. However, I haven't used it yet.

Cheers!


Hi Armando!

I experienced the same problem with the grinder. I think you got the standard 9046 brush? I replaced that with the 9047 'Filzronde'. Their site states that this is especially designed for removing oil and grease. Worked much better indeed.

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Let me know how their wheel cleaning module works, please. Thinking of purshasing one myself. Drool

Rinus
Offline Marius in Africa  
#39 Posted : 20 October 2012 18:47:12(UTC)
Marius in Africa

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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
I purchased the the three lux cars about a year ago (vacuum cleaner, grinder and third-rail scraper), and all I can say is that I have mixed feelings abou them..................................Cheers!


Hi Armando

Have you used the "third-rail scraper" yet; does it function well to clean the centre rail?

Regards
Marius in Africa

HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
Offline Dreadnought  
#40 Posted : 13 February 2022 03:09:16(UTC)
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I cannot find the recent thread on the Lux track cleaner, so I am recalling this thread to life.

I had a problem with my Lux rotating brush car. I had replaced the brush on the Lux brush car. It would rotate when I put power to the track. It would then shut off, and not respond when moving. it simply would not rotate, except to the power being put on the track. Some one else had the same problem.

I had to send it back to Germany, to the manufacturer. It has just come back. It was working perfectly. I had to reset the down pressure on the rotating brush, as it was set too low. It is now fine.

I have no idea what was done to it. I was billed $C 67.00.

The vacuum car has not been a problem.

Moderator, please put this with the more recent discussion thread. Thank you

Dreadnought
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#41 Posted : 16 February 2022 11:02:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dreadnought Go to Quoted Post
Moderator, please put this with the more recent discussion thread.


Is this it?

https://www.marklin-user...ter-Lux-with-your-layout
Offline Dreadnought  
#42 Posted : 16 February 2022 13:05:03(UTC)
Dreadnought

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Yes,
I appreciate your help very much.
Thank you
Offline Timnomads  
#43 Posted : 16 February 2022 15:43:34(UTC)
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Hi
I have the two and I am pleased with them, I have added weight in the vacuum wagon as I found it derailed on crossovers.
Tim
Offline 1borna  
#44 Posted : 25 February 2022 19:55:22(UTC)
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