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 Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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 Joined: 03/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,299 Location: Cape Town, South Africa
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Dimitrios, Thank you for showing the nice and detailed pictures of your conversion. Regards,  John
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 Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Hi Dimitrios,
Did you have any problem with the new brush plate touching the inside of the boiler? I remember someone else doing this conversion and having to file a bit off the end motor bearing on the brush plate to allow the body of the loco to fit back on.
Also, I find the back of the loco is a bit too light after the conversion. I have added a bit of weight at the back, where the old reversing relay used to be. |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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1 user liked this useful post by RayF
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 Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom
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Excellent work, Dimitrios. |
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Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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Thank you all for your comments.  |
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 Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway
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Very good, Dimitrios.
Thanks for showing us. |
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
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Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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Originally Posted by: RayF  Hi Dimitrios,
Did you have any problem with the new brush plate touching the inside of the boiler? I remember someone else doing this conversion and having to file a bit off the end motor bearing on the brush plate to allow the body of the loco to fit back on.
Also, I find the back of the loco is a bit too light after the conversion. I have added a bit of weight at the back, where the old reversing relay used to be. Hi Ray, The new motor fit absolutely perfect in the position of the old one, there wasn't any problem at all. I didn't see any problem for the moment with weight. This is the 3098 and not the 3099, at 3098 the body is metal and not plastic as at 3099, the weight of the loco is about 360gr . Thank you for Asking.  Dimitris |
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Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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Originally Posted by: intruder Very good, Dimitrios.
Thanks for showing us. You are welcome intruder. |
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Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway
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Dgriman wrote:This is the 3098 and not the 3099, at 3098 the body is metal and not plastic as at 3099
My 3099 has a metal body, Dimitrios. As far as I know, all the Br38s based on the model introduced in 1967 have metal body. The 1967 type was replaced by a new model in 2003. The 1967 model:  The 2003 model:  |
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
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Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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Originally Posted by: intruder Dgriman wrote:This is the 3098 and not the 3099, at 3098 the body is metal and not plastic as at 3099
My 3099 has a metal body, Dimitrios. As far as I know, all the Br38s based on the model introduced in 1967 have metal body. The 1967 type was replaced by a new model in 2003. The 1967 model: The 2003 model: Dear Intruder, I have no reason to disagree with you. My information comes from this page http://www.miol.it/stagniweb/maerk40.htm. After the middle of the page, you can find this article : " 3099, P8
1967 - 2002 = 36 years
The P8 is one of the most famous Prussian locos. The 3098 model was quite simple (especially in the wheelset area), but with a full metal construction.
In 1978 the new version 3099 turned from DB to DR (Era II), thus changing fairings and tender. Around 1990 it turned back to Era III, without changing article number.
In 2003 a new, digital, highly detailed, full metal version of P8 was introduced (also in the Italian version Gr. 675). " At the picture is the 3099 P8, which is exactly the same locomotive as mine one.  From this phrase, the conclusion I made, is that the 3099 wasn't full metal bodyIf the article is not accurate, I'm sorry for the misleading conclusions I made. Dimitris |
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Hi Dimitrios,
The article is misleading. Both 3098 and 3099 are essentially the same model. All that varies are the smoke deflectors and type of tender.
I have the KPEV green version 34988 which is also based on the same metal body, and the Primex 3010, which is a simplified Marklin 3098. |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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Originally Posted by: RayF Hi Dimitrios,
The article is misleading. Both 3098 and 3099 are essentially the same model. All that varies are the smoke deflectors and type of tender.
I have the KPEV green version 34988 which is also based on the same metal body, and the Primex 3010, which is a simplified Marklin 3098. Thank you Ray, From my pictures above, can you say which loco is mine ? I have no informations about her, I have it since I was 6y/o, and after 41 years, I have nothing else except the loco, neither the tender. Can somebody help me to identify her so I'll be able to order the right tender for her. I'll appreciate that. Dimitris |
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 Joined: 19/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 841 Location: Lidingö, Sweden
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Originally Posted by: Dgriman
Thank you Ray,
From my pictures above, can you say which loco is mine ? I have no informations about her, I have it since I was 6y/o, and after 41 years, I have nothing else except the loco, neither the tender.
Can somebody help me to identify her so I'll be able to order the right tender for her. I'll appreciate that.
Dimitris
Is this the photo you are referring to? Originally Posted by: Dgriman In that case you should try to get hold of a "Wannentender" as it is called in German, because 38 1807 was the 3098. I have it, but not available to take a photo. However, both my own database and Helmut Kern ( http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/ )give 38 1807 as being the 3098. This picture (that you have posted earlier) shows the right tender: and this even if the Italian site gives it as 3099. You should perhaps give this eBay.de item some thought: Wannentender.
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Originally Posted by: Dgriman Originally Posted by: RayF Hi Dimitrios,
The article is misleading. Both 3098 and 3099 are essentially the same model. All that varies are the smoke deflectors and type of tender.
I have the KPEV green version 34988 which is also based on the same metal body, and the Primex 3010, which is a simplified Marklin 3098. Thank you Ray, From my pictures above, can you say which loco is mine ? I have no informations about her, I have it since I was 6y/o, and after 41 years, I have nothing else except the loco, neither the tender. Can somebody help me to identify her so I'll be able to order the right tender for her. I'll appreciate that. Dimitris Have a look here: http://www.modellbahnboerse.org/3000-21.htmThis website, as well as Helmut Kern's are my Marklin "Bible" http://www.bahn.hfkern.d...aerklin/Dt_Loks_D38.html...and yes, I believe your loco is a 3098 |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Originally Posted by: Dgriman
Thank you Ray,
From my pictures above, can you say which loco is mine ? I have no informations about her, I have it since I was 6y/o, and after 41 years, I have nothing else except the loco, neither the tender.
Can somebody help me to identify her so I'll be able to order the right tender for her. I'll appreciate that.
Dimitris
Is this the photo you are referring to? Originally Posted by: Dgriman In that case you should try to get hold of a "Wannentender" as it is called in German, because 38 1807 was the 3098. I have it, but not available to take a photo. However, both my own database and Helmut Kern ( http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/ )give 38 1807 as being the 3098. This picture (that you have posted earlier) shows the right tender: and this even if the Italian site gives it as 3099. You should perhaps give this eBay.de item some thought: Wannentender. Thank you very much for the help, I'll check it also from my dealers Dimitris |
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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As a matter of interest, my Primex 3010 is also 38 1807. The difference is that the Primex loco has simplified valve gear. Primex 3010  Marklin 3098  |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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