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Is that true Lutz?Will they stop producing the old c-sine motors?
It is not my statement,i have read it some time ago here in this forum,i really do not know if it is right or wrong.
I do not have an mfx c-sine for two reasons:
-I want to be tested by other members for a long time(personally i suspect that are excellent motors,but i would like you to answer me that question:Why the changed the excellent fx c-sine for the mfx one)?
-There are many previous models that i must have so the new ones can wait.
I am referring to HO krokodil.
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Nice family photo, Steven  Next one on your shopping list would be a E94. And then a E254. And then ... [:o)] |
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Very nice, Steven.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />Very nice, Steven.
Thanks for the photo
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Already showed, but not mine, 3300 at work  |
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Nice double-heading,thanks for sharing almagik.
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by almagik
<br />Already showed, but not mine Coolness, finally a masterpiece picture [:p][:p][:p] of my old #3300 Gator set - thanks, Al ! BTW, found this strange Croco (w/o further details) somewhere in the web - any idea what this could be   |
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Hi John, I've seen that one on the web too. Supposedly it's possible SBB CARGO wil send this loc on the tracks for a promotion tour. This is however unconfirmed.I'll try and have look on some related sites wether I can find some more on that topic. Here's another link where I've seen your loc too: http://stummi.foren-city...klin-neuheiten-2007.htmlKind regards Guus |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus
<br />Supposedly it's possible SBB CARGO wil send this loc on the tracks for a promotion tour Thanks, Guus. Thus that picture is faked ... [xx(] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus
<br />Supposedly it's possible SBB CARGO wil send this loc on the tracks for a promotion tour Thanks, Guus. Thus that picture is faked ... [xx(] Are you sure that is 100% faked |
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Yeah, I think it's photoshopped by someone ... |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />Yeah, I think it's photoshopped by someone ...
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These signs of brush on the handrails for example...[}:)] |
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Lots of evidence for a fake [}:)]: Just look at the windowglass - it became "blue" by photoshopping ... And towards the roof the "blue" of the shell changes to "green" Still more: left handrail is drawing "blue/green", the right one becomes "brownish" - instead of "yellow"  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br />#3352.2: Henry Dunant Edition from year 1988   This handsome Roco model would look great next to it.  Mike |
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Yeah - there aren't that many models honoring this great organisation Kinda bloody nose design on this one ... [B)] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
[brCoolness, finally a masterpiece picture [:p][:p][:p] of my old #3300 Gator set - thanks, Al !
It becomes from the bottom of your page:  http://www.marklinfan.net/coccodrilli1.htm |
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The Taurus model is plastic? |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />The Taurus model is plastic?
Livery and lettering variant in special design. Body high-quality plastic, frame die-cast metal. Directionally dependent light alternation white/red. Can be operated with overhead current. Motor with two flywheels. Drive on four axles, two wheels with traction tyres. Equipped with decoder interface.
* Limited special series
* Finest printing
* To mark the anniversary “125 Years Red Cross in Austria”, there will be this specially designed Taurus locomotive of the ÖBB series 1116 which will operate in Austria and Germany from mid- September 2005 onwards.Mike |
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Cool additions, Al - and many thanks for our own Coccodrillo site Guus surely will appreciate this ... [:p] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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I want to ask something.There is a window above the road number of the loco.I wonder if i miss the plastic window or i am wrong and there is no plastic window there.
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I was not clear.I mean the gator 13304 from the set 26730.
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Hi Panayotis, For what it's worth,I took some pictures of my 39561 showing there is a plastic window installed above the roadnumber. It is a small piece which ,I imagine ,could easily be hidden somewhere inside your loco.   I'm wondering have you opened the housing already and checked whether it's fallen off and lying somewhere inside the loco? Hope this helps. Kind regards Guus |
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Hi all, I'm wondering ,could this little tractor qualify as a Gator [8)]. She pulls real Krokodils out of the maintenance shop,so maybe she might receive an honourable mention in the list of crocodiles.  One day I'll grow up to be a real Gator. |
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Very nice images Guus,thank you. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by John:
Guus surely will appreciate this ...[:p]
Yes I do [:p][:p].Mille grazie Alberto Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:originally posted by Nikos:
Very nice images Guus,thank you. Thank you Nikos They are still a far cry from the excellent photos of Alberto and many forum members pictures,but I'm trying hard to improve my photographic abilities. Kind regards Guus |
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<br />I'm wondering, could this little tractor qualify as a Gator [8)] Granted - welcome to the topic, Coccolino From where did you get this cute rugrat, Guus [:p] ???  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa
<br />I agree. Also the bonnets(?) has traces of green; the lower left and the upper right You're right, Henrik. Guess faking is a tough job ... [B)] |
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Did I ever mention my collection of Crocs, Gators or what we like to call them?
26730, a nice set
3300, got them one year ago
3656, my first
37292, does it qualify?
39221, my first c-sine
39561, my latest
I remember my first and only encounter with a live one (87/1) in 1974. I was standing on the platform on Winterthur station in Switzerland when a green one came passing by, only three meters away from me. The platform was vibrating as it passed by.
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Impressive collection, Svein ... c'mon - give us some pics [:p] |
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All images that have the 39561 are excellent!!!
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Yes, as a mini-gator  Forgot the minigator topic [:I] This little tractor would better feel at home there Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:From where did you get this cute rugrat, Guus [:p] ??? It is a gift from a friend who thinks this little loco would better fit in my Swiss loc collection than in his collection. It is a HAG Schienentraktor Te 101. Here's one Te 101 together with two Ee 3/3s: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pi...er/bruenig20000431A1.jpg Kind regards Guus |
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Cool picture,thanks for sharing Guus. |
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Thank you for the reply Guus.Unfortunatelly i opened the loco and there is no plastic window in the loco.I will search my layout very carefully and if i am lucky i will find it.[:(][:(][:(] Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Guus<br />Hi Panayotis, For what it's worth,I took some pictures of my 39561 showing there is a plastic window installed above the roadnumber. It is a small piece which ,I imagine ,could easily be hidden somewhere inside your loco. I'm wondering have you opened the housing already and checked whether it's fallen off and lying somewhere inside the loco? Hope this helps. Kind regards Guus
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I think that is a lizard Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Guus<br />Hi all, I'm wondering ,could this little tractor qualify as a Gator [8)]. She pulls real Krokodils out of the maintenance shop,so maybe she might receive an honourable mention in the list of crocodiles. One day I'll grow up to be a real Gator.
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After serious consideration i concluded that the GG-1 is not a gator. The loco must have a symmetrical and articulated body so as to be able to produce the gator "effect" which can be seen at Alberto's video. If you call the GG-1 gator then you must also call the taurus as well. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery
<br />After serious consideration i concluded that the GG-1 is not a gator Hear, hear ... you may be a traitor but you may be right ... [}:)] What shalls - she's our only one and she's green so we've decided she is ... [:o)] |
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We can always make an exception for you John. |
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Exception accepted - thanks [:o)] |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: intruder Posted - 2006/10/30 : 21:34:22
Did I ever mention my collection of Crocs, Gators or what we like to call them?
26730, a nice set
3300, got them one year ago
3656, my first
37292, does it qualify?
39221, my first c-sine
39561, my latest
john black Posted - 2006/10/30 : 21:45:29
Impressive collection, Svein ... c'mon - give us some pics
alonso231gery Posted - 2006/10/30 : 21:45:33
All images that have the 39561 are excellent!!!
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I couldn't resist and adopted a crippled crocodile at the end of her life, shunting at the Bahnhof:  The poor crocodile lost a pantograph, because of the 'funkantenna' that was placed on top and it received some conversions such as different lighting and a platform for the shunting staff. It is a special series by Roco for Switzerland only. http://www.roco-schweiz.ch/roco/?PGS=41&PG=41The model is very detailed, there is only one drawback. The lights on this loc are not functional (they are just inlays, contrary to what the picture suggests). Strange decision by Roco... I hope the driving characteristics are very good (as I have been told). Regards, Steven |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Steven86<br />I couldn't resist and adopted a crippled crocodile at the end of her life, shunting at the Bahnhof: It is a special series by Roco for Switzerland only. http://www.roco-schweiz.ch/roco/?PGS=41&PG=41Regards, Steven 3-rail version |
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Hi all The weekend is here, and, as I promissed, some photos of my crocs 3300, SBB Be 6/8III 13302  3300, DB Br 194 155-8  3656, SBB Ce 6/8III 14305, my first  26730, SBB Be 6/8III 13304  37292, DRG EG5 22521  39221, DRG E 94004  and, finally, 39561, SBB Ce 6/8III 14316  |
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