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Offline mmervine  
#1 Posted : 08 September 2008 05:20:08(UTC)
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mmervine

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I have updated the list based on all of the feedback...

# Road Model Notes
26533 Metronom BR185 (Set w/3 cars)
26538 CFL BR185 (Set w/3 cars)
26541 DB V80 (Set w/3 cars)
26544 Cisalpino RE484(Set w/3 cars)
26548 WLE ER20 (Set w/3 cars)
29130 Railion BR185 (Start set)
29153 DB BR185 (Start set)
29160 DB BR81 (Start set)
29180 DHG 700 (Start set)
29470 DB BR146.1 (Start set)
29523 SBB Cargo RE481 (Start set)
36080 DB V80
36081 DB V80 (Muffler)
36120 Thomas 0-6-0 (Steam engine)
36121 Percy 0-4-0 (Steam engine)
36240 DB BR24 (Steam engine)
36320 DB BR81 (Steam engine)
36420 DB Cargo BR232
36421 DR BR232
36711 DB ICE2 (Set w/3 cars)
36790 STLB BR2016
36791 EVB ER20
36792 OBB RH2016
36793 Police ER20 (FC Club)
36830 Rail4Chem BR185
36831 LTE BR185
36832 MRCE BR185
36833 TX Logistix BR185
36834 Transpetrol BR185 (Special edition)
36835 DB BR146.1
36836 Railion/DB BR185
36837 Superman BR185 (FC Club)
36837 Superman RH2016 (FC Club)
36838 Veolia BR185
36845 OBB RH2016
36846 Siemens ER20 (Conrad)
36847 Looney Tunes ER20 (FC Club)
36848 Alex ER20
36849 LTE ER20
36850 DB BR185
36851 SBB Cargo RE482
36852 BLS RE485
36853 CFL BR185
36854 RAG BR185
36855 Connex BR185 (Conrad)
36856 DB BR185
36857 SBB(RAG) RE482 (Conrad)
36858 Hoyer BR185
36871 KLVM 0-6-0 (Steam engine)
36881 MRCE BR185 4 (Conrad)
36890 Schoefferhofer BR185 2 (DE only)
36892 Ralion Swiss BR185 (Bahnshop 1435)
36893 RTS Traction BR185 (CH dealers)
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline ozzman  
#2 Posted : 08 September 2008 06:57:03(UTC)
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ozzman

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Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a "Hobby" Lok? There's no equivalent in Z scale.
Gary
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"Never let the prototype get in the way of a good layout"
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 08 September 2008 11:40:29(UTC)
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RayF

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Hi Mark,

I would include the V80 diesels, 36080 and 36081, the Br24 36240, the Br81 36320, the KLVM tank engine 36871, and ICE 36711, all of which have similar motors and decoders and low prices. (I'm not too sure about the Br24, though.)

I believe there are also some starter sets and train packs which include some of the above locos.

Ray
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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 08 September 2008 11:47:18(UTC)
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Gary,

"Hobby" is the name Marklin give to cheaper, lower specification locomotives and wagons in their HO range.

It started I believe in the 1990's, when the former Primex range was brought back in to the Marklin brand. They were originally simplified Marklin models sold under the Primex brand in Supermarkets etc. When Primex was discontinued, they created the Hobby brand, and sold these loks, and other basic ones from the Marklin range, as "Hobby" locomotives. They also included the metal 24cm coaches and some basic goods wagons in the Hobby range.


A few years ago the Hobby name seemed to disappear, but it was then resurrected with the current generation of cheaper models.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you.

Ray
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#5 Posted : 08 September 2008 11:52:41(UTC)
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Gary, generally speaking Hobby locos are 'cut down' versions or cheaper versions of models probably more suited to use by children. They may not be super detailed, but they are usually very well built to withstand the rigours of kids playing with them. Having said that, they hold some appeal for more serious collectors as they may be of models that are not available elsewhere in Marklin's catalog. You normally find the Hobby program towards the front of the catalog with a bunch of starter sets, some locos and some freight and passenger cars.
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Offline tekin65  
#6 Posted : 08 September 2008 12:03:57(UTC)
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tekin65

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Ray and David hi,

As Märklin refers to it the "Hobby" line is an attempt to provide a somewhat more sturdy collection of models especially for children. I have noticed that Märklin have been careful to choose models with less details (such as Br216) to include in this line.

I've had a few Hobby locos and they were not really cut-down but my experience with them is limited.

Regards,

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

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Offline Weltenbummler  
#7 Posted : 08 September 2008 12:49:47(UTC)
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Weltenbummler

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Hi all,

that's what I call a HOBBY Lok. biggrin

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Primex 3079 or 2711 for 10 Euro.

Runs perfect and is in absolut good condition.
Regard from Karachi
Thomas
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Offline tekin65  
#8 Posted : 08 September 2008 12:56:47(UTC)
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Cool one! Smile

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
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Offline RayF  
#9 Posted : 08 September 2008 13:02:35(UTC)
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RayF

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I would say that is an extremely cut down Hobby lok!biggrin

Ray
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline tekin65  
#10 Posted : 08 September 2008 13:06:07(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />I would say that is an extremely cut down Hobby lok!biggrin


Primex [:I]

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
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Offline RayF  
#11 Posted : 08 September 2008 13:20:57(UTC)
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Yes, of course, this was marketed as a Primex lok. My apologies! The very similar 3080 was marketed as a Hobby lok for a while.
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Ray
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline tekin65  
#12 Posted : 08 September 2008 13:28:56(UTC)
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tekin65

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Hi,

I think Primex stuff is very confusing.

On one hand you have locos like the one above, on the other you have superior sets like the Orient Express. Very strange indeed.

I feel like Primex brand was not very well defined when it first introduced.

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
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Offline RayF  
#13 Posted : 08 September 2008 13:35:52(UTC)
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Cem, have you seen this link?

http://www.frankenbahn.de/primex/primexframeE.htm

It explains the whole history of the Primex brand very well. Highly recommended reading!

Ray
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline tekin65  
#14 Posted : 08 September 2008 13:39:09(UTC)
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tekin65

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Thanks for the link Ray.

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
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Offline ozzman  
#15 Posted : 08 September 2008 15:14:41(UTC)
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Thanks everyone for the explanations, and especially Thomas for that photo! Now I understand why there's no equivalent in Z.
Gary
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Offline PrenticeSt07  
#16 Posted : 12 September 2008 23:52:50(UTC)
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Cem,

I agree with you the branding seems confusing. Much like what LGB tried to do with the "Toy Train" range. Models went in and out of the brand and it was a confusing mess.

I enjoy reading all the postings and finally had to join up myself.

Regards,

Lou
Have a Good Day!

Lou
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Offline RayF  
#17 Posted : 13 September 2008 00:23:58(UTC)
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Hi Lou, welcome to the forum.

Unless you really are 13 I suggest you go back to your profile and enter your date of birth again. It's a quirk of the system that seems to get everyone!

Good luck, and enjoy yourself on this forum.

Ray
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline mvd71  
#18 Posted : 13 September 2008 02:34:20(UTC)
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In my opinion there are two great things about hobby loco's.

1. Good value for money

2. Most people can get them in and out of the box without damaging the
fine details that more expensive Locos.Smile
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Offline hasan  
#19 Posted : 21 September 2008 18:02:51(UTC)
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Many thanks for putting together this list.
A small add: 26541, Bamberger set.
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Offline H0  
#20 Posted : 21 September 2008 21:52:55(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine
<br />I have updated the list based on all of the feedback...

Thanks!
I think it was a good idea to update the list in the first post - so we have only one up-to-date list at the start of this thread (only you and the webmaster can update this).
Regards
Tom
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Offline intruder  
#21 Posted : 21 September 2008 22:52:02(UTC)
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Primex:

To keep the name alive, Märklin launched two locomotives after the actual stop of Primex production.

Both locomotives were delivered in Märklin boxes, but in orange colour.

1996-1997:
Primex 30331, DRG Br 24
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2000-2001:
Primex 33005, DB Br 23
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edit, correction of typing errors
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline mmervine  
#22 Posted : 21 September 2008 23:09:41(UTC)
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Tom...I took your suggestion and updated the list at the beginning of the thread. The second list has been deleted!
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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