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old toot		#101 Posted : 12 January 2016 02:38:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 498 Location: christchurch, canterbury		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Is there any info on what is contained in the C Track expansion set? Maybe a set with the new R4 points? I think they are R3 the new curved points not R4 which will be good for the passenger train running
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old toot		#102 Posted : 12 January 2016 02:53:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 498 Location: christchurch, canterbury		Originally Posted by: NS1200 According to some Dutch Marklin traders the embargo will be lifted this Thursday 10:00 hrs European Continental Time. I guess this will apply to Trix new items also. Correction: 16:00 hrs! that would be about the normal time about 2 weeks before the show and they are seeming to wanting to cement the range a bit more to provide some depth to supply, bearing in mind the 40% increase in production out of the Gyor new factory, and the freight side stock depth is also being increased which is an area I think they have lost a lot of sales by not making enough. Freight sells all year and guys can always find the money for another wagon or two etc, but things have been tough in Europe, and a lot of spare cash has probally gone from extra cash helping the refugees, and the china shakedowns are going to effect a lot of economies this year, including Australia could be hit hard,and that could roll over into other countries near by
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kimballthurlow		#103 Posted : 12 January 2016 13:03:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,669 Location: Brisbane, Australia		In their Facebook page, Marklin have made splash about 30,000. 30k what?
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H0		#104 Posted : 12 January 2016 13:09:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		More than 30,000 likes on FB. This has no connection to the new items brochure coming soon.
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Goofy		#105 Posted : 12 January 2016 15:56:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,020		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Are you calling me a fool.......?? We've had this discussion before about your use of the word 'fool', and it really needs to stop Did i wrote "you"??? - Well, with Goofy 'English' you can never be completely sure.... Nope you suppose. In fact does Märklin present everytime old models and they stand about 80-85%. I would be very surprise if Märklin did only present new train models,which i mean new train models that never been produced before. That is what i call news! I´m not even surprised if Märklin did present same insider model 2015 with another computer number. Just look at BR10...not even surprised. I would be surprised if Märklin did present CS3plus and CS3 as complete system,which means no more upgrades. Edited by moderator 12 January 2016 20:30:22(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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steventrain		#106 Posted : 12 January 2016 16:07:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		The MS2 is now in black- >Steventrain Facebook<
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chrisisrang		#107 Posted : 12 January 2016 17:37:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 173 Location: Hong Kong		Originally Posted by: steventrain The MS2 is now in black- >Steventrain Facebook< Märklin has changed the LCD screen to full color
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Bigdaddynz		#108 Posted : 12 January 2016 20:27:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: steventrain The MS2 is now in black- >Steventrain Facebook< So the question has to be asked, where did you get the full new items information from (presumably the pdf) if you can't post it publically?
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NS1200		#109 Posted : 12 January 2016 20:59:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		All Marklin "Close to the core" parties have been asked not to disclose any details on the 2016 new items before the embargo is lifted by Marklin. I honoustly think we have to respect that,as difficult as it may be. Only two more sleepless nights to go!
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Webmaster		#110 Posted : 12 January 2016 21:03:25(UTC) Retweet
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Sankch		#111 Posted : 12 January 2016 23:14:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 68 Location: ,		I wonder if the annouced cs3 will have a train detection system similar to Falller Car System v3.
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clapcott		#112 Posted : 13 January 2016 00:04:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: steventrain The MS2 is now in black- Then it is not an MS2, as we know it, it is either a MS2-black , and the 60653 needs to be re qualified as MS2-Grey. Or it is some other new identifier. Marklin just call it a "Mobile Station" , which so far has referred to the 60651, 60652, 60653
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kiwiAlan		#113 Posted : 13 January 2016 00:09:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: clapcott Originally Posted by: steventrain The MS2 is now in black- Then it is not an MS2, as we know it, it is either a MS2-black , and the 60653 needs to be re qualified as MS2-Grey. Or it is some other new identifier. Marklin just call it a "Mobile Station" , which so far has referred to the 60651, 60652, 60653 I wouldn't describe the picture as showing a black ms2 either - the colour balance of other items in the picture (such as the track pieces) looks all out of whack to me - so it could still be grey.
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Rajnish		#114 Posted : 13 January 2016 01:45:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 76 Location: Singapore, Singapore		The MS is not materially different in terms of functionality. It has been updated with color screen and new HW for improved performance. The number of functions that can be accessed remain the same and it still does not have wireless connectivity!
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Bigdaddynz		#115 Posted : 13 January 2016 02:12:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Webmaster Yep, we have to respect it - even if it is hard at times... Originally Posted by: NS1200 All Marklin "Close to the core" parties have been asked not to disclose any details on the 2016 new items before the embargo is lifted by Marklin. Yes, I realise that but if Stephen has the full details already (as originally hinted at in his Facebook post, which has since been edited to remove that comment) then someone 'Close to the core' has leaked that information to him....... Furthermore, if Stephen has embargoed details he probably shouldn't be posting any information about the new items until after they are released. https://www.facebook.com...in/posts/995812317158366 Edited by user 13 January 2016 10:34:59(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling
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clapcott		#116 Posted : 13 January 2016 03:18:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: Rajnish The MS is not materially different in terms of functionality. It has been updated with color screen and new HW for improved performance. The number of functions that can be accessed remain the same and it still does not have wireless connectivity! Ah, Marketing at its best. Being very non specific, saying something and then immediately contracting it. Although this actually reads to me like a competitive snipe nurturing FUD
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Rajnish		#117 Posted : 13 January 2016 07:31:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 76 Location: Singapore, Singapore		Originally Posted by: clapcott Originally Posted by: Rajnish The MS is not materially different in terms of functionality. It has been updated with color screen and new HW for improved performance. The number of functions that can be accessed remain the same and it still does not have wireless connectivity! Ah, Marketing at its best. Being very non specific, saying something and then immediately contracting it. Although this actually reads to me like a competitive snipe nurturing FUD We live in a democratic world. You have a right to your opinion. Time will tell very soon whether the information I presented was BS or has SUBSTANCE!!
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RayF		#118 Posted : 13 January 2016 08:50:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		This discussion is getting a bit silly! In my opinion we can all wait another day or two!
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Sander van Wijk		#119 Posted : 13 January 2016 10:53:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Originally Posted by: RayF This discussion is getting a bit silly! In my opinion we can all wait another day or two! Fully agree. I am sure we do not need to wait more than a good 24 hours, anyway. (And yes, that information directly based on the embargo as called for by Märklin.)
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Bigdaddynz		#120 Posted : 13 January 2016 11:02:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: RayF This discussion is getting a bit silly! Not sure which part of the discussion you are referring to, Ray? I agree, we can all wait until the official announcement on Friday morning (NZ time), my concern was regarding details being leaked by people who shouldn't be leaking them!
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RayF		#121 Posted : 13 January 2016 12:40:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: RayF This discussion is getting a bit silly! Not sure which part of the discussion you are referring to, Ray? I agree, we can all wait until the official announcement on Friday morning (NZ time), my concern was regarding details being leaked by people who shouldn't be leaking them! What I find silly is people getting hot under the collar about comments which are all pure speculation. Can we really not live for one more day without knowing what the new items will be? No offence was intended to any posters of course!
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mbarreto		#122 Posted : 13 January 2016 13:42:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		If M doesn't want speculation better it keeps the information inside doors and announce it to dealers just before it turns it public domain. I can wait but I don't see any reason for not talk about the rumours. I also don't think the forum will be looked as "bad" by some M or most dealers because of talk about those rumours. Maybe some will, but I don't think everybody needs to think the same. It is very good idea to have a color display in MS. Mobile phones have that for some time, and the technology doesn't seem to be expensive if we it doesn't use a super high quality (resolution, color accuracy, how it reflects light, work in presence of strong light, etc)display. Was also nice to have different color covers like for the cell phones, but off course it is not important. I am very curious if will appear a new BR18 - S3/6 or about a new Croc as the item numbers suggest. We must also understand that during 2016 a considerable number of products will also be announced in addition to the ones that will soon be announced.
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kiwiAlan		#123 Posted : 13 January 2016 14:13:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: mbarreto If M doesn't want speculation better it keeps the information inside doors and announce it to dealers just before it turns it public domain. I can wait but I don't see any reason for not talk about the rumours. Dealers will always have the NI information a reasonable time before the release date, as they need that time to enter the information into their shop database, and determine what items they believe will sell through their stores, and get initial orders in to the manufacturer. And as for rumours, it is nice to speculate and think what WE would like to see, versus what the manufacturer sees as a viable product in the marketplace.
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Marius in Africa		#124 Posted : 13 January 2016 16:39:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 420 Location: Boksburg, Gauteng		Originally Posted by: RayF This discussion is getting a bit silly! In my opinion we can all wait another day or two! EXACTLY Ray. This "go to my facebook" to have a look is BS. This is a MARKLIN USERS FORUM, that is why I joined, to get the information here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not on some private FB profile. Regards
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NS1200		#125 Posted : 13 January 2016 19:02:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		First pictures of the Dutch constructiontrain 29256 are on internet. The loco is a NS 1652 series 4 axle electric. There is the well known 3 axle German crane,a 2 axle flatcar in NS blue to support the crane,a 4 axle open goodscar,and a 2 axle closed goodscar. All very much in line with the French constructiontrain released earlier. The set does not reflect any prototype of such a train. The NS did not operate series 1600 electric loco's for such trains,nor was the German crane used in The Netherlands. It would be rather dangerous to operate a crane under live wires having either 1,500 volts DC or 25,000 volts AC. Nevertheless it is a nice set for youngsters,be it that the price is a bit stiff. The loco could be used to pull the well known NS Intercity coaches,sure. I do not think i am breaching the Marklin embargo with this because i am not part of the Marklin innercircle!
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Webmaster		#126 Posted : 13 January 2016 19:41:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,161		So, why not go here instead of speculating about it? I presume a possible "CS3" will be presented at the Nueremberg Toy Fair in February as new highlight.
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Sankch		#127 Posted : 13 January 2016 21:08:30(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#128 Posted : 13 January 2016 21:24:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Yes It came from Marklin app with CS3 Video. Very cool! For CS3: 7 "screen capacitive touch screen with multi-touch 7x faster processor 4GB of internal memory, max 32GB via SD card can be retrofitted integrated speakers New GUI design,no hardware buttons next to the display more. Max. 32 locomotive functions
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steventrain		#129 Posted : 13 January 2016 21:33:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		49954 Goliath Crane digital.
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Sankch		#130 Posted : 13 January 2016 21:47:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 68 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: steventrain Yes It came from Marklin app with CS3 Video. Very cool! yes exactly. I moved to my laptop to capture a better pic, than the one posted above taken from a tablet.
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Sankch		#131 Posted : 13 January 2016 21:57:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 68 Location: ,		I have made 4 other screen captures from the video.
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Sankch		#132 Posted : 13 January 2016 22:00:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 68 Location: ,		And let s not forgett the Vectron is a new modell, under article reference 36190
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kiwiAlan		#133 Posted : 13 January 2016 22:14:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Sankch Originally Posted by: steventrain Yes It came from Marklin app with CS3 Video. Very cool! yes exactly. I moved to my laptop to capture a better pic, than the one posted above taken from a tablet. Soooooooooo, is that the cs3 or the cs3+ and where did the video come from? I don't understand what Marklin app?
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Sankch		#134 Posted : 13 January 2016 22:24:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 68 Location: ,		The marklin app is a free software which is available for android and apple phones and tablet. Yesterday there was a major update to this app. Someone on stummi pointed out that this update included a few videos. If it is not possible to access it from the device, it is possible to access those data if you connect the device to a computer with a usb cable and explore the marklin folder in the android folder. The video and those capture are alll about the Cs3. There is no info about the cs3plus.
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klarinettmeister		#135 Posted : 13 January 2016 23:18:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 798 Location: Kirseberg		Originally Posted by: steventrain 49954 Goliath Crane digital. There isn´t much information, but the Goliath will be in yellow according to the video that was downloaded through the mAr app. But I already have the old Goliath but this will propably be smoother in the controls.
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Bigdaddynz		#136 Posted : 13 January 2016 23:33:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Sankch The video and those capture are alll about the Cs3. There is no info about the cs3plus. The only indication of what the CS3+ is is in the first of four screenshots that Sankch posted which shows the CS3+ as a remote device to the CS3. The diagram as shown shows the CS3 at the heart of the system.
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Bigdaddynz		#137 Posted : 13 January 2016 23:56:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: steventrain Yes It came from Marklin app with CS3 Video. Are we referring to the Marklin Mainstation app here?
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graafjp		#138 Posted : 14 January 2016 00:01:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 117 Location: Netherlands		No not the mainstation app, videos can be found in the Marklin AR app.
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Bigdaddynz		#139 Posted : 14 January 2016 00:24:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		That app shows up in the playstore as being installed, but I can't find it on the phone. Maybe it was installed on another device (I recently had my phone replaced) or my tablet. Anyway, I see it is downloading now - all 186mb of it!
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Hackcell		#140 Posted : 14 January 2016 00:27:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Originally Posted by: graafjp No not the mainstation app, videos can be found in the Marklin AR app. how do you see it? I click on the 2016 new items and it does nothing, it shows the 2 loco icons and when you touch it, nothing.
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graafjp		#141 Posted : 14 January 2016 00:42:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 117 Location: Netherlands		Originally Posted by: Hackcell Originally Posted by: graafjp No not the mainstation app, videos can be found in the Marklin AR app. how do you see it? I click on the 2016 new items and it does nothing, it shows the 2 loco icons and when you touch it, nothing. If you have an Android device, connect to a PC and browse the device. I do not know the exact location as I downloaded the Marklin App on my iPad and also got it via iTunes on my iMac. Then unzip the Marklin 1.5.ipa on the iMac, in the payload directory 'show package contents' for the MarklinAR.app. Videos can be found in the data/raw directory.
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Bigdaddynz		#142 Posted : 14 January 2016 01:00:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Hackcell how do you see it? I click on the 2016 new items and it does nothing, it shows the 2 loco icons and when you touch it, nothing. I had the same problem! Thanks for the explanation Jos. I also found this - http://www.eurorailhobbi...om/erh_news.asp?nid=1416 (It didn't work on the pdf versions I have - will have to try the printed version). This is what I'd call a rumpty app - no documentation, no intuitive operation, Mickey Mouse could write something better than this!
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#143 Posted : 14 January 2016 02:32:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 951 Location: ,		About the CS3 is it the actual thing or its a prototype?
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Bigdaddynz		#144 Posted : 14 January 2016 03:06:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Read the thread Alex!
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Bigdaddynz		#145 Posted : 14 January 2016 04:41:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Copy of the video, which Clapcott kindly sent me. My take on the CS3 from what is seen in the video - a better and improved CS2. I don't see anything on the rear panel that suggests there is a Loconet port (but this picture probably only shows 3/4 of the rear panel). maerklin_cs3.mp4 (7,982kb) downloaded 84 time(s).
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Bigdaddynz		#146 Posted : 14 January 2016 04:49:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		However, I don't know what this port might be for - L88 perhaps?? Edited by user 14 January 2016 08:58:07(UTC)  | Reason: Corrected M88 to L88
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Hackcell		#147 Posted : 14 January 2016 05:44:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Based on the video, it also misses the s88/legacy boosters ports. I hope M doesn't kill the legacy booster compatibility and they have some extra (and really cool) surprises.
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Hackcell		#148 Posted : 14 January 2016 05:46:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz However, I don't know what this port might be for - M88 perhaps?? Looks like a RJ45 port.
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Bigdaddynz		#149 Posted : 14 January 2016 05:52:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Hackcell Looks like a RJ45 port. The port on the back is an RJ45 port, the one on the bottom seems different when compared to the RJ45 port. Originally Posted by: Hackcell Based on the video, it also misses the s88/legacy boosters ports. The video doesn't show the full rear panel or bottom of the unit, so there could be something in the unseen bits. You can get a legacy S88 connection by using a L88 as your first device and connecting your S88's to the L88.
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Hackcell		#150 Posted : 14 January 2016 06:14:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: Hackcell Looks like a RJ45 port. The port on the back is an RJ45 port, the one on the bottom seems different when compared to the RJ45 port. Originally Posted by: Hackcell Based on the video, it also misses the s88/legacy boosters ports. The video doesn't show the full rear panel or bottom of the unit, so there could be something in the unseen bits. You can get a legacy S88 connection by using a M88 as your first device and connecting your S88's to the M88. Loconet uses a 6 wire RJ connector, similar to the one in the picture... Maybe? If that was the case, what are its benefits for Märklin users?
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