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Offline jselter  
#1 Posted : 11 May 2008 15:19:46(UTC)
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Hi all,

For my birthday this past year I received an MTH model PRR 4-6-2 K4. It is DCC and really a beauty of a locomotive, so I've decided to keep it and buy some TRIX c-track and c-track switches to use for a small layout.

Question, are the current c-track switches DCC compatible <u>without</u> modification?

Thanks for your help.

Joe
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Offline MärCo  
#2 Posted : 11 May 2008 15:37:06(UTC)
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Conrad has a switch decoder for C track switches that does understand Motorola and DCC.

CLICK
Absolutly AFB-NOHAB fan ;-)
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Offline jselter  
#3 Posted : 11 May 2008 17:04:25(UTC)
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Thanks Marco,

So I guess I can assume that the TRIX switches will work in DCC operation without causing a short circuit?

Joe
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 11 May 2008 17:47:09(UTC)
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Ahummm...

You can using Marklins turnout motor itemnr:74490 and replacement them on Trix C-track switches and using for exemple Lenz switch turnout decoder name LS150.

It´s just one of the good exemple what you can do.

Trix C-track switches are equipped for Analog and DCC power,by just follow after information what it stand on it.The info is there in the boxes of switches.

Good luck...!

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Offline Goofy  
#5 Posted : 11 May 2008 19:07:49(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MärCo
<br />Conrad has a switch decoder for C track switches that does understand Motorola and DCC.

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The switch decoder from viessmann is not queite good to choising,because there is(did ?)was some trouble shooting for Trix switches by using DCC.

I wonder if there is somebody who did tried by using Viessmanns turnouts decoder in DCC...?

In my opion,i suggest Lenz digital turnout decoder LS150.

Marklins turnout motor is very good by using it on Trix switches...!

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Offline jselter  
#6 Posted : 11 May 2008 20:00:17(UTC)
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Thanks Goofy, that info. helps allot. I'll look into the Lenz decoder.

Joe
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Offline Roger E  
#7 Posted : 12 May 2008 03:42:02(UTC)
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Hi Joe.
I am using the Viessmann 5231 decoder with DCC and have not had any problem.

I can also add that the Trix turnuots have an isolated frog that can be either left floating or power-switched with the turnout, selectable by a jumper. If left floating the turnout can be trailed with the points in the wrong position - just like a Marklin turnout. This works fine for larger locs, but small locs may get contact problems and requires the power-switched frog setting.

-Roger
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Offline jselter  
#8 Posted : 12 May 2008 04:18:15(UTC)
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Thanks Roger, as Goofy mentioned in a previous post the instuctions for using the Trix switch (point) in DCC is included in the packing box.

I want to continue using the c-track system (from TRIX in this case) because it's very easy to work with, robust and when compared to the Kato 2 rail, system about the same cost wise. Also, it doesn't use those cursed rail joiners.

Thanks for your help.

Joe
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Offline TTRExpress  
#9 Posted : 12 May 2008 04:18:18(UTC)
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Joe,

The TRIX points (turnouts/weichen) are designed just like the Maerklin ones excepting there are no center-rail studs and as Roger states, the frogs are isolated. You can use Maerklin turn-out motors (744490) and light kits (74470) with them. You should have no problems using them with DCC. Lenz and Viessmann decoders are compatible. There are instructions with the turnouts.

You can also use the TRIX points in analogue mode also. There is a difference in rail profile height as the TRIX C-track was designed more for RP-25 wheel sets. It is 2.1 mm in height (Code 83) and Maerklin C-track is 2.3 mm (Code 90). There is an adapter track (62951) that you can use that will mate the TRIX C-track to Code 83 2-rail DC track. You can also mate it to older TRIX International 2-rail DC track that has a profile height of 2.7 mm (Code 110). You would have to file down the rails at the connection points to accommodate the height difference.
Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),

Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Offline jselter  
#10 Posted : 12 May 2008 04:21:18(UTC)
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Thanks Maurice. I'm going with TRIX "C". I appreciate the information.

Joe
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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 12 May 2008 19:23:43(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TTRExpress
<br />Joe,

The TRIX points (turnouts/weichen) are designed just like the Maerklin ones excepting there are no center-rail studs and as Roger states, the frogs are isolated. You can use Maerklin turn-out motors (744490) and light kits (74470) with them. You should have no problems using them with DCC. Lenz and Viessmann decoders are compatible. There are instructions with the turnouts.

You can also use the TRIX points in analogue mode also. There is a difference in rail profile height as the TRIX C-track was designed more for RP-25 wheel sets. It is 2.1 mm in height (Code 83) and Maerklin C-track is 2.3 mm (Code 90). There is an adapter track (62951) that you can use that will mate the TRIX C-track to Code 83 2-rail DC track. You can also mate it to older TRIX International 2-rail DC track that has a profile height of 2.7 mm (Code 110). You would have to file down the rails at the connection points to accommodate the height difference.


Trix switches with frog IS NOT isolated,because the frog is made of metal.
Instead you mean that frog can been controlled by connecting via contact under the switch.By polarity the frog.

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Offline MärCo  
#12 Posted : 12 May 2008 19:59:36(UTC)
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The TRIX turnouts has a switch underneath.

UserPostedImage

There are 2 options:

1) "insulfrog" or turnoutfrog is isolated.
2) 'livefrog" or turnoutfrog is powered according to the setting of the switch.
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Offline TTRExpress  
#13 Posted : 12 May 2008 20:07:44(UTC)
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Thanks Marco for helping to clear this up.

Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),

Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Offline jselter  
#14 Posted : 12 May 2008 20:17:53(UTC)
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Thanks again Marco. A picture truely is worth a thousand words. Also, this switch is a very clever idea.

Joe
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Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 13 May 2008 22:01:43(UTC)
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Oppssss...!

Of course,the frog IS isolated... [:I]

I mean,that frog can been controlled via contact under the switch.

The frog is still after all made of metal,for higher safety contact with wheels of locomotiv or railwayscar.

Good nice picture anyway...! Smile

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Offline Goofy  
#16 Posted : 13 May 2008 22:06:42(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jselter
<br />Thanks Goofy, that info. helps allot. I'll look into the Lenz decoder.

Joe


Check in this link:www.lenz.com

Go to manuals and click on LS150

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