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DasBert33		#51 Posted : 24 December 2007 10:43:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,275		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by viragoLDR Someone from Viessmann mentions on the forum that you can automate a layout without the need of a pc though. Of course, remains to be seen what he considers "automating a layout" =) It has train-tracking capability like I know it from traincontroller. You can assign a train to a block and the commander will follow that train as it passes S88 contacts/blocks, and display it on the screen. Looks rather advanced to me, and definately better that what ecos/cs/ib can do. On the the other hand the functionality is probably more limited than what you can do with software, and you only have a relatively small screen. Bert
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jonquinn		#52 Posted : 12 January 2008 19:00:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		have any Commanders made it to stores yet? I think this is the one I'll gt, but it will be a while.
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plavnostruev		#53 Posted : 12 January 2008 21:36:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 756 Location: New Jersey, USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br />have any Commanders made it to stores yet? I think this is the one I'll gt, but it will be a while. Jon, Viessmann is shipping German version of the Commander with English to follow. Mike
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Goofy		#54 Posted : 19 January 2008 14:45:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,284		[:p]I have now seen Viessmann Commander in action...! I can only to saying or and writing: BUY IT,FOR GODS SAKE...!!! It´s fantastic to see how good Commander is...! I have decides to buy this one next weekend...! Goofy
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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steventrain		#55 Posted : 19 January 2008 14:48:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />[:p]I have now seen Viessmann Commander in action...! I can only to saying or and writing: BUY IT,FOR GODS SAKE...!!! Goofy
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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mmervine		#56 Posted : 19 January 2008 14:55:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,894 Location: Keene, NH		Goofy: A complete report with pictures...please! r/mark
		Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss http://www.ete-ene.org/m...mervines-layout-gallery/
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jonquinn		#57 Posted : 19 January 2008 15:03:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		goofy is making the right choice with commander, since it also operates in DCC, he can still use it when he sells off all his 3-rail/marklin again and switches over to DC/DCC again. Should have saved this for the major surprise announcement.
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David Dewar		#58 Posted : 19 January 2008 16:57:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,461 Location: Scotland		Interesting to see how good it is. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Goofy		#59 Posted : 20 January 2008 14:51:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,284		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br />goofy is making the right choice with commander, since it also operates in DCC, he can still use it when he sells off all his 3-rail/marklin again and switches over to DC/DCC again. Should have saved this for the major surprise announcement. Viessmann Commander can been in using DCC and MM at the same time...!!! But,not at the same track...! You can using 2-rails and 3-rails at the same area on yours layout and using Commander without any trouble...! How come...? Commander is an Central Station that allows by using of DCC and MM signals to identification at the same time...!!! Take loke at the link:www.viessmann-commander.de Goofy
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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Goofy		#60 Posted : 27 January 2008 14:41:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,284		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />[:p]I have now seen Viessmann Commander in action...! I can only to saying or and writing: BUY IT,FOR GODS SAKE...!!! It´s fantastic to see how good Commander is...! I have decides to buy this one next weekend...! Goofy I have still not bought Commander so far,because it will been better to wait and see how good it is by testing Commander. You can see after that in the forum under Viessmanns link. Goofy [:I][:o)]
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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Larry		#61 Posted : 27 January 2008 18:07:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,443 Location: Northeast Ohio		I cannot imagine something as good as this product sounds will have the bugs worked out of the software for 3 years or so. Hopefully, I am wrong for those of you that buy them at the early stage, but anything this complex is bound to be problematic for the first wave of users.
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David Dewar		#62 Posted : 27 January 2008 18:27:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,461 Location: Scotland		Considering the talk about the Commander... has anybody actually bought one. I think this will be another controller with low sales. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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jonquinn		#63 Posted : 28 January 2008 01:36:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		they've been promising this thing for at least two years, after showing it at the german toy/train trade shows at least that long ago, so that ought to leave one for debugging. I'll wait for others to buy and try first - and isn't in my train budget right now anyways.
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viragoLDR		#64 Posted : 28 January 2008 11:23:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 703 Location: ,		Haven't bought one (yet), but from what I've heard it functions quite well. Of course it has some bugs, but its been tested on some large club's layout I believe, so most of the functionality *should* be in and working.
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Goofy		#65 Posted : 29 January 2008 19:26:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,284		Sorry fellows...! It will been not Commander for me. I have decides Marklin CS upgrade,because i want to using with mfx control too...! Have an nice day...! Goofy
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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Caplin		#66 Posted : 29 January 2008 22:10:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Good for you, Goofy. It takes time, but you get there in the end!
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renevoorburg		#67 Posted : 29 January 2008 22:36:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 382 Location: Planet Earth (mostly)		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy It will been not Commander for me. I have decides Marklin CS upgrade,because i want to using with mfx control too...! Goofy, I think a CS combined with a computer and software like RR&Co TrainController will offer you much more than the VC! René
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steventrain		#68 Posted : 31 January 2008 19:02:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		That's very good of you, Goofy.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Goofy		#69 Posted : 05 February 2008 20:27:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,284		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Sorry fellows...! It will been not Commander for me. I have decides Marklin CS upgrade,because i want to using with mfx control too...! Have an nice day...! Goofy I must telling to you and saying,that Marklins CS was and are an dissapointed by using it...!!! [xx(] For one moment,i thought CS did becomes better since update but nope...! I did return back CS to hobbystore. A friend to me did said,that Viessmann Commander is better than CS and has now been reported in the train-massmedia by testing it...! I dont remember the name of massmedia... Seems it will been Commander after all for me... I keep contact to you later about Commander,if not less somebody other do it before me...! Goofy
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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bmcrae		#70 Posted : 05 February 2008 20:36:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Sorry fellows...! It will been not Commander for me. I have decides Marklin CS upgrade,because i want to using with mfx control too...! Have an nice day...! Goofy I must telling to you and saying,that Marklins CS was and are an dissapointed by using it...!!! [xx(] For one moment,i thought CS did becomes better since update but nope...! I did return back CS to hobbystore. A friend to me did said,that Viessmann Commander is better than CS and has now been reported in the train-massmedia by testing it...! I dont remember the name of massmedia... Seems it will been Commander after all for me... I keep contact to you later about Commander,if not less somebody other do it before me...! Goofy Must be a life of misery to be your dealer.
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dntower85		#71 Posted : 05 February 2008 21:46:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		@ Goofy ... Go for the Commander. You know you want it Somebody here needs to test it.
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David Dewar		#72 Posted : 05 February 2008 21:51:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,461 Location: Scotland		Goofy What are you using at the moment. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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steventrain		#73 Posted : 05 February 2008 22:21:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Goofy, Have you change your mind?
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Goofy		#74 Posted : 06 February 2008 19:41:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,284		I have been notice,that there is some severals function in other digital compenets that is more harmony by using it than CS. And besides,take look at Uhlenbrocks new Intellibox II...! What an "candy" digital system...! Goofy
		H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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mmervine		#75 Posted : 10 February 2008 04:48:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,894 Location: Keene, NH		Viessmann is reported to have the 'connect' component ready to allow legacy digital systems to be used with the Commander. r/mark
		Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss http://www.ete-ene.org/m...mervines-layout-gallery/
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Bigdaddynz		#76 Posted : 10 February 2008 05:56:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,776 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Sorry fellows...! It will been not Commander for me. I have decides Marklin CS upgrade,because i want to using with mfx control too...! Have an nice day...! Goofy And now Goofy has sold the CS, because he didn't like it......
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jonquinn		#77 Posted : 10 February 2008 15:31:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		I keep seeing updates on this thread and thinking maybe there is some real news or review here, basically something of interest, but 99% of it has just been postings from "goofy" on how is is supposedly changing from this system to that, and DC to AC, and era I to III (or whatever). I have my doubts this person actually owns an marklin or has any "real' interest in model trains. He's posted a few pictures here, but that proves nothing. If he really does and he is returning all this stuff, he dealer ought to start charging a restocking fee - he could get by on that alone to pay for his business costs liek rent and electricity.
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David Dewar		#78 Posted : 10 February 2008 16:27:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,461 Location: Scotland		Jon You must remember he does come from another planet. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Seetal		#79 Posted : 12 February 2008 05:28:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 548 Location: Maryland, USA		Hmmmm, viesmann have produced some interesting models in recent years. Specifically the ones having sex. I can't help but wonder if the Commander will control them? An interesting icon perhaps on the touch screen. And then the term Commander...maybe a nod to S&M?
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