 Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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Hi friends, I have bought this coaches set produced by Hornby Rivarossi. In italy some rivetconunters really hammered them. What do you think about? Is their colours so wrong?     |
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 Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,
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Hi Alberto,
I think they look pretty nice. The colour does not seem to be so bad compared to other models of coaches of that time. Futhermore: some people consider a good model to have exactly the same colour (RAL) as the prototype. However, this could be an illusion, due to the small scale of a model, the colour has to be adjusted (objectively, say in RAL) to look the same as the original. (Which is subjective) I've read a lot of information on this colour thing including adjustment factors for each scale somewhere... I'll try to look it up for you.
Anyway, I think they look pretty nice. Enjoy them!
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 Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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If they are meant to be the same colours as the current Orient Express, and I don't see why not, then they are quite close in colour as far as I can remember from a couple of months ago. Compare to this picture:  I didn't know the Rivarossi coaches had been released yet. I've been waiting for them to appear so I can order them. Ray |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Alberto, have you had a chance to try them on C-track curves? Will they go round 1st radius?
I want to get them but I need to know if they'll run on my layout.
Thanks,
Ray |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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The criticism are about the blu color (too dark) The roof color (only grey or white ok, not ivory) The puffer color (white instead black) The inscriptions ( no good the red 3D effect) I like them very much and don't think the same. And I'm a dreamer too, this why you can see a BR10 pulling the convoy [:p]   A test on R1 radius will come soon. |
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Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC)
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Location: Trumbull, CT
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The new refurbished cars which are now in use have a high quality finish which was not available when first produced. What was prototypical is not hte same as the current. If your happy with the cars then enjoy.
I have the same set which I picked up about thirty years ago and think they are great, except for the wheel sets which some day I might change. |
Stephen(USA)
ETE,NMRA,MEA |
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Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC)
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Location: Longueuil, Quebec
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They look beautiful anyway. Criticisms are so easy to be said ... Just visit a aircraft modeller club and listen for instance !
Have fun with your coaches !
Pierre.
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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Perfect behaviour on C track R1 and on M track turnoust too. They have hoods with tip-up bases and springy buffers. The roof color is similar to the Mitropa coaches.   Here a video in the italian section of the long travel http://www.marklinfan.com/video/soe.wmv |
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 Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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THey are very nice Alberto.
If they Look Good and Run Good then they are good.!!
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 06/12/2006(UTC)
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Location: Richfield, WI
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Very Nice Alberto!
We you able to purchase these as three rail AC cars or did you or your dealer switch out the trucks? In the U.S., I can only find them listed as 2 rail so far. Also, which set or sets do you have? In the U.S., I see two three-car sets listed (HR4010 and HR 4020) along with a single car HR4011, which is apparently a dining car. Both three car sets contain a baggage car.
Tony A.
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by amalongi
<br />Very Nice Alberto!
We you able to purchase these as three rail AC cars or did you or your dealer switch out the trucks? In the U.S., I can only find them listed as 2 rail so far. Also, which set or sets do you have? In the U.S., I see two three-car sets listed (HR4010 and HR 4020) along with a single car HR4011, which is apparently a dining car. Both three car sets contain a baggage car.
Tony A.
Hi tony they are the 4010 and 4020 sets. I didn't change the wheels, but if you want to do it, use the standard wheel of the Marklin coaches, they have the same size. |
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 Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH
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Alberto:
These look really nice! Do you know if they will clear catenaty poles on R1 track?
r/mark |
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Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC)
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Location: Groton, Connecticut
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I think the coaches look very nice, but then again I'm not a rivet counter. Probably why I see nothing wrong with the BR 10 pulling the coaches.
Ira |
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 Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom
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Very nice Orient Express. |
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine
<br />Alberto:
These look really nice! Do you know if they will clear catenaty poles on R1 track?
r/mark
Sorry I cannot test this, but they are shorter than the marklin 27 cm coaches so they must not have problems. |
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Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,588 Location: Australia
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I tried to access the Rivarossi site - Is there are link to these wagons available anywhere? |
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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 Joined: 23/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 800
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Hi Alberto,
Very nice set.
Is it easy to add lighting, with pick up shoe?
Any problem on C track turnouts? My Atalia Orient express cars sometimes derail on my C turnouts and I intend to change them.
Fred
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by efel
<br />Hi Alberto,
1) Is it easy to add lighting, with pick up shoe?
2) Any problem on C track turnouts?
1) Not easy 2) No problem |
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Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,588 Location: Australia
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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Joined: 30/09/2005(UTC)
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Location: bologna, BO
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Sander van Wijk
<br />Hi Alberto,
I've read a lot of information on this colour thing including adjustment factors for each scale somewhere... I'll try to look it up for you.
Anyway, I think they look pretty nice. Enjoy them!
If you find it, I would be interested on it. I remember that also Marklin models were a little lighter than the right color until some years ago... Alberto, some people trash all new horby-rivarossi products... I think it's nostalgia for the old producer... [|)] Besides, here in Italy the rivet-counting is a very common sport... I don't know all over the rest of the world, but, every time I show some new marklin model to my friends they find lots of imperfections... [:(!][:(!]
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Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy
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I agree, it's the Italian DC men sport. |
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