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steventrain		#1 Posted : 09 October 2006 23:38:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Anyone have the 39010?
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intruder		#2 Posted : 09 October 2006 23:47:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Nice!
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Vardex		#3 Posted : 09 October 2006 23:52:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 404 Location: vlaardingen,		It looks nice,especially the wheels. What bothers me is the fact that M can't seem to fix the loco-tender distance. This shouldn't be a big problem. Bart
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Hemmerich		#4 Posted : 10 October 2006 00:24:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		The distance is adjustable (as already known from other recent models, like the BR44 or BR50). Makes definitely sense as still a large number of Märklin customers use R1 tracks. Likewise the tube protection which can be mounted at the cylinders if the track radius is large enough.
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jorge_vilarrubi		#5 Posted : 10 October 2006 01:06:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 655 Location: Buenos Aires,		Some interesting changes: No false "boxes" in front of the Führerhaus, which were created to hause the motor. New cover for the driving gear, at the center of the 3rd driving axle (typical of a Trix design, see picture from bottom side). The Feuerbuchse now looks prototypical, no longer that wide, as in old models. I can bet that the motor is located at the center of the boiler, rendering a protoyipical Feuerhaus with enough room for the crew. A very nice model indeed.
		Jorge Vilarrubí Buenos Aires ARGENTINA
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Vardex		#6 Posted : 10 October 2006 02:29:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 404 Location: vlaardingen,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />The distance is adjustable (as already known from other recent models, like the BR44 or BR50). Makes definitely sense as still a large number of Märklin customers use R1 tracks. Likewise the tube protection which can be mounted at the cylinders if the track radius is large enough. Still I think it's crappy. A nice kinematic can do the job also without the need of being adjustable. Or have roco,GFN and the others patented this for DC? Most of their models will do R1,even brawas 06 will. Bart
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Davy		#7 Posted : 10 October 2006 03:22:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		A Roco 01 goes only through r2 curves.
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foumaro		#8 Posted : 10 October 2006 10:55:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Very nice model.[:p]
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Hemmerich		#9 Posted : 10 October 2006 13:00:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Vardex A nice kinematic can do the job also without the need of being adjustable. Or have roco,GFN and the others patented this for DC? Most of their models will do R1,even brawas 06 will. Hi Bart, have you ever seen a recent Märklin steamer of the type I mentioned? If so you'd know that they have a kinematic at both, the engine and the tender. By the way, what should DC have to do with this? ROCO, GFN, BRAWA knowingly produce models for both, the two rail and center rail system. Actually most ROCO steamers are specified for a minimum radius of 415mm! Regardless, I am just eager waiting for the delivery of my BR01 like all other fans of this fine new Märklin model!
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pa-pauls		#10 Posted : 10 October 2006 17:22:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		That's right Lutz, can't wait to get mine,,,
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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HueyCE		#11 Posted : 11 October 2006 01:13:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Good looking locomotive, thanks for the pics Steven. Ira
		Building German Era I-II layout(Mk IIIc).
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Hemmerich		#12 Posted : 12 October 2006 15:53:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Here are some more pics. Enjoy them! Quite short coupled tender. View at the firedoor (Feuerbüchse), which will flicker with red light when the function is activated. There is also plenty of space for the driver and "coaly" in the cabin. Tender details (separate tubes, etc.) Again the very fine wheelsets and springs. The fine detailed loco front. No problem in getting through R1!!! Personally I think it will be hard for any "true Märklinist" to get around this superb model. Driving characteristics are just impressive.
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RayF		#13 Posted : 12 October 2006 15:56:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Very nice. This is definately going on my shopping list. Ray
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Davy		#14 Posted : 12 October 2006 18:40:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I hope I will get mine soon.
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pa-pauls		#15 Posted : 12 October 2006 18:45:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Thank's for very nice picture's Lutz,,, Does the motor seem robust ? I think I will always love those old Märklin motor's,,,
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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dbmike		#16 Posted : 12 October 2006 19:06:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 468 Location: Kokomo, IN		The catalog I have lists it has having the compact C-sine drive, I used to have the 39103 lok and it ran supurbly, espicaly when I am used to my older style loks. I am debating on spending the money on this one, might look a bit odd as the rest of my loks are older ones from the 60's and 70's. Lutz, are all the drive wheels geared together like on past loks? Or do the side rods drive the the other wheels.
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steventrain		#17 Posted : 12 October 2006 19:24:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Really very cool,thanks for sharing.
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Hemmerich		#18 Posted : 13 October 2006 00:13:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dbmike Lutz, are all the drive wheels geared together like on past loks? Or do the side rods drive the the other wheels. Hi Mike, CORRECTION: The motor drives the last wheelset. The motor and gear is completely located in the so called "Stehkessel" which allows a complete free and undisturbed view across all wheels. For some "imagination" of the model construction a look at the explosion drawing might be helpful. AUX1 drives (as usual) the smoker, AUX2 the flickering light of the firebox. The additional possibility to mount as well a Telex with this model which I mentioned above will need AUX4 (+ some amplifier).
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bmcrae		#19 Posted : 13 October 2006 00:57:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Thanks Lutz! As always your posts with photos are always appreciated for the up close details! [:p][:p]
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jeehring		#20 Posted : 13 October 2006 15:20:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Thank you Lutz for all good info you gave! A real pleasure to read you! This model looks nice. Something is bothering me: are the wheels all metal molded?Including spokes? BTW,with the new mechanics ( motor + transmission) do you find this new model as powerfull as former BR 01 with traditional Marklin mechanics ( 5 poles motor), more powerful, less powerful ? I agree to say that "traditional 5 poles motor" is incredibly powerful, comparing to the rest of MRR in the world. Some people used to say that Marklin models were too much & unnecessarily powerful( for me, it was not "unnecessarily") . Regards
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Hemmerich		#21 Posted : 13 October 2006 19:40:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring <br />Thank you Lutz for all good info you gave! A real pleasure to read you! This model looks nice. Something is bothering me: are the wheels all metal molded?Including spokes? BTW,with the new mechanics ( motor + transmission) do you find this new model as powerfull as former BR 01 with traditional Marklin mechanics ( 5 poles motor), more powerful, less powerful ? I agree to say that "traditional 5 poles motor" is incredibly powerful, comparing to the rest of MRR in the world. Some people used to say that Marklin models were too much & unnecessarily powerful( for me, it was not "unnecessarily") . Regards Hi Roland, All, Thanks for the compliments [:I]. As long as my contributiond help in sharing and the increase in a "better" understanding of Märklin, its products, etc. it's fine with me. I could not see that the spokes would be of any different material than the rest of the wheels; at least the lack of red paint on the outer ring is no indicator as this is the same for most other Märklin steamers. The engine drives very smooth, incredibly quiet and yet has very good pulling power (no problem getting a long 12 car train over a 3% hill. It also doesn't roll down (as some of you might recall from the Württ. C) due to the "snail gear". I have not (yet) measured the exact pulling force, but I think this will be soon published with the first model railroad magazine review. Surely there will be some comparison with the "old good" F800/3008/3026/3048/P3193, but IMHO it will be quite difficult to compare the 3-pole LFCM of these models with this new compact C-sine.
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pa-pauls		#22 Posted : 16 October 2006 00:24:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Hello, This model has no Telex, but looking at the spare part list it seems like it is possible to use the "new" Telex's from the Br. 03, 41, 44, 50 etc. But are there any functions on the decoder left to control the Telex
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 16 October 2006 00:28:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br />Hello, This model has no Telex, but looking at the spare part list it seems like it is possible to use the "new" Telex's from the Br. 03, 41, 44, 50 etc. But are there any functions on the decoder left to control the Telex Well,Other class 01 such as 39103,39104 dont have telex. What catalogue number did class 44 have a telex?
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Guus		#24 Posted : 16 October 2006 00:36:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi Stephen,hi all, What a nice loco [:p]!High tech Märklin at its best! Guus
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pa-pauls		#25 Posted : 16 October 2006 01:54:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Steven, The model 37889 Br. 44 has Telex
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Transfesa		#26 Posted : 16 October 2006 12:39:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 140 Location: Madrid, Madrid		Hi all, Lutz: thank you very much for your great and very detailed photos. Are you going to upload a review of the model? I'm very interested in reading opinions about its sounds, because this will be the first steam locomotive with sound that I'll surely buy Seems like new model locomotives are appearing everywhere, so in the next weeks we should have some new reviews in the section: BR 01, E 10, BR 290... Kind regards.
		Julio Castillo Madrid, Spain
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steventrain		#27 Posted : 16 October 2006 18:44:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br />Steven, The model 37889 Br. 44 has Telex OK I see,thanks paul.
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widianto		#28 Posted : 16 October 2006 20:10:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 174 Location: Indonesia		Owwww..i want one!!! Veri Nice..thanks for the pictures steve
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Hemmerich		#29 Posted : 16 October 2006 20:11:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Transfesa Are you going to upload a review of the model? I am thinking about it, but I still "owe" first another member (and hence this group) a comment on the model/series he had reviewed several days ago. Furthermore, I have even new models that are worth a review description which you didn't list, like the new V200 and Am 4/4 (#39800, #39801, both really very fine models), the BR151 (#39582) or the new BR 143 (#37433), not to forget my now complete fleet of Swiss LS cars.
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steventrain		#30 Posted : 16 October 2006 22:09:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by widianto <br />Owwww..i want one!!! Veri Nice..thanks for the pictures steve You can order it at your dealer or mail order.
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steventrain		#31 Posted : 18 October 2006 09:46:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Lokshop info me that 39010 will shipping out today.
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Hemmerich		#32 Posted : 22 October 2006 14:37:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Some more "appetizer" pics from this beauty! Together with the new longer cars it's just a great "assemble"! I am more than happy with this model; driving characteristics with the new C-sine are just "superb". Next I'll also add a smoker and as I had mentioned already earlier a Telex could be added too. IMHO the pcb in the tender even has neccessary provisions for the telex components.
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steventrain		#33 Posted : 22 October 2006 16:23:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks for sharing the pictures,The 39010 already been shipping so will arrive in few days.
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pa-pauls		#34 Posted : 22 October 2006 16:56:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Thank's again Lutz for very nice photo's,,, I'm really looking forward to get this model,,, Shall be interesting to see about the Telex do,,,
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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Davy		#35 Posted : 22 October 2006 21:39:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Lutz, Very nice pictures. Thanks.
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intruder		#36 Posted : 22 October 2006 22:48:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I agree with the above: Lutz, once again, thanks for the great photos. Very nice model.
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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steventrain		#37 Posted : 24 October 2006 20:16:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Arrive mine today,Quite heavy tender.
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Basil		#38 Posted : 24 October 2006 22:43:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/06/2006(UTC) Posts: 141 Location: ATHENS		Happy for you. I`m still waiting for mine. No news from my dealer.I`ve also ordered the starter set 29825 which maybe the cause of delay.
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David Dewar		#39 Posted : 25 October 2006 01:22:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,467 Location: Scotland		Steven How does it run David
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intruder		#40 Posted : 25 October 2006 02:15:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Nice loco, Steven! How do they make the firebox glow? Cut a hole and install a diffuse LED? And finally: What kind of C-sine motor is installed in this steam gigant?
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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Hemmerich		#41 Posted : 25 October 2006 03:09:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		There is a little pcb with a red flickering LED behind the diffused firedoor. It has the new compact C-Sine installed. Max. speed is factory set at 90% and it runs perfect (at least my model, but I hope all other's too).
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steventrain		#42 Posted : 25 October 2006 09:44:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />Steven How does it run David It run very well.Very happy with slow speed.
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orubias		#43 Posted : 25 October 2006 12:05:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 690 Location: Justo ahí		Another 2-3-1 for your collection, Steven? Great model, a must for some of us.
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Basil		#44 Posted : 25 October 2006 21:19:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/06/2006(UTC) Posts: 141 Location: ATHENS		If it runs as nice as it looks its perfect. Thanks for the pics.
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steventrain		#45 Posted : 27 October 2006 10:48:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Do 39015 without sound have same running number 01 147?
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pa-pauls		#46 Posted : 28 October 2006 17:54:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		The model arrived today,,, Will test it tomorrow,,, Weeee,,,
		Pål Paulsen Märklin Spur 1 Digital, epoche 3
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steventrain		#47 Posted : 28 October 2006 19:44:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br /> The model arrived today,,, Will test it tomorrow,,, Weeee,,, Very cool.Enjoy your new model.
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Bob R		#48 Posted : 02 November 2006 02:16:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas		Mine arrived today as well with my Blue Gator. Now I have 9 days off to play trains (as well as light duty around the house) then go back to work. Mostly time to play with trains! Bob R
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steventrain		#49 Posted : 02 November 2006 11:07:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Well done,very good,enjoy play with trains Bob.
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Davy		#50 Posted : 09 November 2006 01:28:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I have my Br01 to. Great Runner. Beautiful steamengine. But I have two little pionts of critic. The wormwheel has has to be oiled every 20 hours? And pulling power on steap hills (5,5%) is about 5 coaches at low speed on m-track. At higher speed it is not a big problem. But the model drives great on my m-track layout. Even through R1 curves.
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