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Offline john black  
#51 Posted : 09 November 2006 13:12:27(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy
<br />The wormwheel has has to be oiled every 20 hours?

Had the very same experience with the one in our Grandson's new-type BR81 ... [:I]
Guess some grease works better, here Smile (just as M states in the manual)

On the other hand, since the 81's transmission got no case but is fully open - all stuff will escape from the gears, sooner or later. Seems to become one permanent lubrication job. And that new screw system for the shell (you've to remove the front coupler unit, first !!!) won't make things quicker ... [xx(]
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Offline Davy  
#52 Posted : 09 November 2006 19:10:44(UTC)
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Yep trix 66626 grease the worm gear sparingly, 1 drop.

I will buy this only the price is 6,50 euro[xx(]
M-track with a CS2.
Offline laalves  
#53 Posted : 09 November 2006 20:05:15(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />
On the other hand, since the 81's transmission got no case but is fully open - all stuff will escape from the gears, sooner or later. Seems to become one permanent lubrication job.


See that on the bright side, John: after some running, you'll have Märklin's scent in the air... biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Luis
Offline Davy  
#54 Posted : 30 November 2006 02:06:26(UTC)
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Pictures of my br 01

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Distance lok and tender can be made smaller. But not on my layout.
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Offline steventrain  
#55 Posted : 30 November 2006 19:15:39(UTC)
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Very cool.
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Offline foumaro  
#56 Posted : 01 December 2006 09:21:30(UTC)
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Is it necessary to interfere to the distance between the loco and tender?For what reason?confused
Offline Transfesa  
#57 Posted : 01 December 2006 11:28:52(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by foumaro
<br />Is it necessary to interfere to the distance between the loco and tender?For what reason?confused

Hello Foumaro,

Recently Märklin has added an adjustable coupler between the loco and tender in their large steam locomotives like BR 44 and BR 50, and it seems that also BR 01 although in the catalog description it only says "short coupling between loco and tender", it doesn't tells anything about it's adjustable confused

If you don't have R1 you can try to set the coupler to its short mode, I've tried this with my BR 50 (Märklin 37844) and it runs more or less well through the R2 switches. But if you have R1 curves or you don't mind to see the extra gap between loc and tender, then you may set the coupler to its long mode, so the tender doesn't derail due to lack of movement, and it also runs a bit better over R2 switches and curves [^]

Kind regards.

Julio Castillo
Madrid, Spain
Offline foumaro  
#58 Posted : 01 December 2006 15:43:21(UTC)
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Thank you very much Julio.biggrin
Offline plavnostruev  
#59 Posted : 01 December 2006 17:06:16(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy
<br />Pictures of my br 01

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Davy,

Great angle! Makes me want to walk over rails, climb inside,
blow horn and take this baby for a spin! [:p]

Mike
Offline Hemmerich  
#60 Posted : 01 December 2006 18:48:59(UTC)
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The loco-tender distance of this model can be adjusted as well. Since it is designed as short coupling type it can be set with most used radius to the shorter distance position.

The adjustment part can be seen when the slider is clipped of.

1. Outer position (long distance)

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2. Inner position (short distance)

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3. Driver and Coalie in a little chat (about loco-tender distances or grafitti at their usually very clean tender? biggrin) during a short stop in the service station.

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Offline steventrain  
#61 Posted : 01 December 2006 18:58:01(UTC)
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Cool driver and fireman.
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Offline mrmarklin  
#62 Posted : 01 December 2006 19:44:46(UTC)
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<br />Anyone have the 39010?



Mine is in the Mail.Cool
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Offline steventrain  
#63 Posted : 01 December 2006 20:03:36(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Anyone have the 39010?



Mine is in the Mail.Cool



Very cool,enjoy your model.
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Offline jeehring  
#64 Posted : 05 December 2006 20:59:29(UTC)
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I ve seen very closely...
Nice model for sure!
BTW one small critic : on such a nice model, it's a pity to see one "moulding mark"(mark of the cast)just all along the boiler in the middle.
WHy some models have these marks( P8 ) and some other models don't have it ( BR 55 )? It shows that there is not nice finish or does it come from a bad conception of molds...?
TODAY in 2006, we shouldn't find this problem...
Other small critic: did you notice that the color of the plastic roof is not the same than the Lok. It shows that they didn't paint it!It is coloured in the mass !But it's OK .Just to save some little money. Ridiculous! I prefer to pay 5 E more. Or may be they want to make more profit ?

Sure, the model is nice, but they should make an effort on finishing to make this model almost perfect.

I 'll buy it for this time, I do like it very much. But please,Mr Kingsbridge, you are making too much savings with these new little motors, would you make an effort about the finish and offer a really nice model for money??

Have you made a comparison about the weight between former model of BR 01 and new model of BR 01 ?
The new one is much lighter and has metal tender! The old one with plastic tender is more heavy......

All right Mister KIngsbridge, good profit ok , but why not nice models ?
In Goppingen, is there still someone who like nice models ?


PS I do appreciate the metal hand rails and those so essential METAL windscreen made with plate, beautiful thin plate...

Offline Davy  
#65 Posted : 05 December 2006 21:10:35(UTC)
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Today Tuesday 5-12-06.

I have let my br01 drive for about 2 hours on the club layout which is made from K and C track. With two other loc with the older sinus engine. The Br 01 is quit and makes less noise then a br42,9 our Swiss crocodile with the older sinus engine. Both are not from me.

The br01 never came to a halt because of dirty track our something else.
The first 15 minutes it looks if the engine had trouble with holding its speed steady. Something the machine doesnot do on my own layout with a CS. It did drive flawlees but with very little pushes. After that is disappeared and the loc did drives as beautiful as a loc with the older sinus engine.

With the sound on. I have seen no interuptions with the sound. So no stopping and starting. I have not seen one interuption.

I even have done a pulling test. With 8 coaches of which one has a pick up shoe. The Br01 had no problem pulling this train even in a large 2% spiral.

So overall I don't think the new br01 is so bad.
Before the test I did set the speedcurve on lineair with my CS. Max speed is still on 90% and wil go down to 70 our 75% and also the braking delay will go up.

The test is done with a repaired club Intellibox. Because he went kaput two weeks ago. But he has been made by our own very technical clubmember Who doesnot what to drive digital.wink
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Offline jeehring  
#66 Posted : 05 December 2006 21:17:05(UTC)
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Thank you for your report, Davy,

I don't say the BR 01 is bad. Never !I even don't think it is bad.
Is it Marklin or not ? I expect from Marklin nicer models than from other brands. So, only some very little points, easy to correct ....if they want .

Even the roof is nice, I'm not shoked by the plastic colour, I just think they can make it better. It could be an artistic interpretation of a subject, a matter of taste, may be I'm wrong, they didn't make it for economics reason....Cool Cool
Offline jeehring  
#67 Posted : 05 December 2006 21:27:41(UTC)
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I like heavy loks, that's why I like Marklin.
A real Lok is heavy and make a heavy sound when rolling on track.
And heavy Marklin models were always making that heavy sound when rolling on rails.
I really like the " doong doong" of the wheels between each piece of track or on fishplates.. Only Marklin models were making this sound!
Offline jeehring  
#68 Posted : 05 December 2006 21:48:15(UTC)
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But,
True,as we have nice loksounds now we need also some noiseless silencious machines...

So hard to be a modelrairoader nowadays....wink wink
Offline Davy  
#69 Posted : 05 December 2006 21:59:04(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
<br />Thank you for your report, Davy,

I don't say the BR 01 is bad. Never !I even don't think it is bad.
Is it Marklin or not ? I expect from Marklin nicer models than from other brands. So, only some little points, easy to correct ....if they want .


I don't mean you. Sorry for that. I have drive with the br01 already once on the club layout and then it was a disaster. I think the IB had then already problems. Because other trains had then also problems.

PS you have a sharp eye, because your observations are correct.

M-track with a CS2.
Offline jeehring  
#70 Posted : 05 December 2006 22:09:42(UTC)
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Oh, sorry
...and thank you,

Me too, I didn't pay attention, first time I didn't notice it ...except the mark of the mold because I'm always trying to see & understand how it's molded...
About the roof, The second time I was not alone and it's a friend who has shown me... It's also a matter of ambient light .

<u>But on the whole, I do like this model very much. Many positiv points. The nicest industrial model of BR 01 of the market, I think </u>.

As the mark is exactly on the middle, it is not so... disturbing, I just hope Marklin will make some efforts next time
Offline Hemmerich  
#71 Posted : 05 December 2006 22:31:27(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
BTW one critic : on such a nice model, it's a pity to see one "moulding mark"(mark of the cast)just all along the boiler in the middle.

Other critic! did you notice that the color of the plastic roof is not the same than the Lok.


Seems to me that you're talking about a different model, especially regarding "mold marks" or "different color between roof and loco". Without doubts, there is and will always be a difference between metal and plastic material - Märklinists know this "by heart"! Cool

It is barely recognizable if done such professional like with this model. Mine is fine and I honestly haven't recognized that it was any different with the other BR01's I've see so far! (the only thing that counts). wink

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BTW: Kingsbridge had little to do with this excellent model; it was a decision made by Mr. Adams quite some time ago. biggrin
Offline jeehring  
#72 Posted : 05 December 2006 22:55:35(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring
BTW one critic : on such a nice model, it's a pity to see one "moulding mark"(mark of the cast)just all along the boiler in the middle.

Other critic! did you notice that the color of the plastic roof is not the same than the Lok.


Seems to me that you're talking about a different model, especially regarding "mold marks" or "different color between roof and loco". Without doubts, there is and will always be a difference between metal and plastic material - Märklinists know this "by heart"! Cool

It is barely recogniable if done such professional like with this model. Mine is fine and I honestly haven't recognized that it was any different with the other BR01's I've see so far! (the only thing that counts). wink

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BTW: Kingsbridge had little to do with this excellent model; it was a decision made by Mr. Adams quite some time ago. biggrin


Look at it under the daylight,

About the mold marks:
depending of models. The P8 had one. The BR 55 don't have some.

About the color of plastic.I agree.
It's also a reason why I ve said that it COULD BE also a matter of" artistic interpretation". Depending on the model,it is More or less well done. On some models, I ve seen some perfectly painted plastic details in such a way that from one or two meters, you can't see any difference.

On this model , it seems they have made the choice of a non painted plastic. It is " tinted in the mass"...don't you think ?
May be they think it is more suitable with matt/ satin finishing of the boiler. I don't make a judgement, I'm just discovering in which way they have made the model...

I agree, we are discussing some very specific or technical details that are not unforeseen difficulties for me to like this model very much...

Thanks to mister Adams. He is a great manager.
But I think there is a "chief of products" (?) somewhere who makes some technical choices. The one who has made this model is a good one, congratulations!
Same for the one who has made the new version of the Danish Nohab except.....about the printing process of the yellow line in front of the lok. To this one, I 'm suggesting him to have a look on the CFL Nohab (Marklin) and the nice printing process of yellow stripes, it is perfectly made with a sophisticated work of painting & printing.
About the last Danish Nohab,it's a different process.
Have a look on the yellow stripe, in front of the lok.It is not the same work: less precision, faster work. It looks like on many other models from Roco.
( I'm talking about the yellow line, how he procceds to join the front part to the side part. The whole blue color is wonderful and the rest of the lok too)

I'm quite sure that the one who was in charge of the CFL Nohab livery is not the same one who made the New Danish Nohab livery.( if the same, he was not managed by the same person)

Let me guess : the first one was still from Goppingen, The other one is from ...other place ( Nuremberg or Gyor...?)
If subcontractors, I'm sure, they are two different sub contractors!
Offline Hemmerich  
#73 Posted : 06 December 2006 16:00:11(UTC)
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Roland,

everyone has the (almost) equal choice to be either happy or unhappy with a certain model.

I am just saying that I'm more than happy so far with my new BR01 in any aspect; i.e. technical as well by its optic impression. This seems to be shared by many other model railroad fans (which is nice to hear but less important to me).

You are talking about details in a distance of 1-2m (which seems to be fair for a layout); at such distances you will FOR sure not be able to see any "molding marks" or specific painting details - unless you use a magnifier glass. wink

The so called "product manager" is responsible for the implementation and release of a specific model. Everything has to be presented to management in order to be signed off; i.e. nothing different than with any other company alike.

If you disagree with a product as it has been delivered to the market, you have the choice of not buying it or changing it (or find someone who does the change for you).
And yes, you can always send a message back to the company telling your "findings". The degree of impact to all affected parties will usually be the driving factor for any change.

I just don't see it here (yet), especially with the BR01.

PS: I checked my DSB Nohab (again); in order to recognize any change in the yellow stripe color (due to the different tampon prints) at all I had to get as close as about 10-20cm in front of the model. Other than the risk of a train accident because of me being too close at the tracks, there was nothing else which could make me worry about this model. biggrin
Offline steventrain  
#74 Posted : 06 December 2006 17:44:03(UTC)
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Hi Roland,

I agreed with Lutz.

I am very happy with class 01 with lots of functions included firebox glow light.
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Offline jeehring  
#75 Posted : 06 December 2006 23:30:29(UTC)
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Hemmerich
If you read me 100%, do you really think I'm not happy or unsatisfied with the BR 01 ?


Offline Hemmerich  
#76 Posted : 09 December 2006 01:55:31(UTC)
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<br />Hemmerich
If you read me 100%, do you really think I'm not happy or unsatisfied with the BR 01 ?


Roland,

from your responses I got a slightly different impression. I can just wish you and all other (hopefully alot) future owners of this great new Märklin model to be at least as happy with it as I am. SmileSmileSmile
User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#77 Posted : 09 December 2006 03:09:39(UTC)
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Hi Guys, there are some great pictures of a really nice model here. One question I have is what are the differences between the class 01 and the class 03 locos? I have 2 class 03 locos, and am thinking about getting a class 01 as well. Add those to my class 41 and 2 class 50's, I'll have more steam loks than I can fit on the layout!!
Offline shannon  
#78 Posted : 09 December 2006 07:14:23(UTC)
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<br />Hi Guys, there are some great pictures of a really nice model here. One question I have is what are the differences between the class 01 and the class 03 locos? I have 2 class 03 locos, and am thinking about getting a class 01 as well. Add those to my class 41 and 2 class 50's, I'll have more steam loks than I can fit on the layout!!
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#79 Posted : 09 December 2006 07:20:07(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Hi Guys, there are some great pictures of a really nice model here. One question I have is what are the differences between the class 01 and the class 03 locos? I have 2 class 03 locos, and am thinking about getting a class 01 as well. Add those to my class 41 and 2 class 50's, I'll have more steam loks than I can fit on the layout!!


notice the sand packages(i dont know the name of the facility) on the boiler. BR01 configures 3 items but BR03 is just only one.
Offline Macfire  
#80 Posted : 22 December 2006 00:58:11(UTC)
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Received mine yesterday. Quick test run at work last night.
Will look great of my turntable, received at the same time, sitting next to my Classes 03, 41, 50, 86 & 89.
Looking at decoding my old c Class 23 so it can run with the others. (See my new topic about my Class 41)
Lord Macca
New Zealand branch of Clan Donald.
Offline steventrain  
#81 Posted : 23 December 2006 17:01:13(UTC)
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Congratulations Macfire.
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