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Offline Adrian666  
#1 Posted : 11 March 2025 13:31:25(UTC)
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Funny thing, In the below video I have 2 locos ( roco and fleischmann) , the issue is that I deleted the Ludmila(roco) from cs3+ and now when I put it on the track and press start ( the point is to add it again, you need to have the start option on in order to read the loco ) it does not stop even if the speed is 0%.

Basically I cannot read the loco , any thoughts?
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 11 March 2025 14:04:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Adrian666 Go to Quoted Post
it does not stop even if the speed is 0%.
How can the speed be 0? You deleted it.

Maybe the loco remembered the last speed step and continues to run until it gets new instructions.

Maybe the loco switches to analogue mode and runs off.
Are you sure 38 is the correct DCC address?
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Offline PerR  
#3 Posted : 11 March 2025 14:09:04(UTC)
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I think that it is the decoder in the locomotive which remember that it have to run.

If the locomotive was running, when you switched off the power to the track, and removed the locomotive in the CS3, then the decoder will remember it, when the power is switched on again.

You will have to add the locomotive again in the CS3, and then you should increase the speed of the locomotive, and set it back to zero again. Then switch power on to the tracks, and the locomotive should stop.

I have seen this problem several times.

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Offline Adrian666  
#4 Posted : 11 March 2025 14:55:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Adrian666 Go to Quoted Post
it does not stop even if the speed is 0%.
How can the speed be 0? You deleted it.

Maybe the loco remembered the last speed step and continues to run until it gets new instructions.

Maybe the loco switches to analogue mode and runs off.
Are you sure 38 is the correct DCC address?


I dont think 38 is the right address. The issue is that even at 0 km it runs. So i have no idea how i can add it without going off the track. No matter what address i have it stilul runs.
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#5 Posted : 11 March 2025 15:22:36(UTC)
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Hi
What is the difficulty of installing the loco upside down power it ALONE on the programming track and ask the CS3 to find the address and protocol for you?
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Offline Adrian666  
#6 Posted : 11 March 2025 17:00:17(UTC)
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Hi
What is the difficulty of installing the loco upside down power it ALONE on the programming track and ask the CS3 to find the address and protocol for you?
Cheers
Jean


Sorry, didnt understood
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Offline Copenhagen  
#7 Posted : 11 March 2025 23:18:39(UTC)
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I found this video about locomotives on the CS3 in all three protocols (mfx, mm and dcc). Don't know if it will help? The guy speaks with a Danish accent:-)


I think JohnJean means placing the locomotive upside down and placing the piece of track connected to the programming track output on the cs3. It might be a bit difficult to keep things stabilised.
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Offline BenP  
#8 Posted : 12 March 2025 05:06:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Adrian666 Go to Quoted Post

Funny thing, In the below video I have 2 locos ( roco and fleischmann) , the issue is that I deleted the Ludmila(roco) from cs3+ and now when I put it on the track and press start ( the point is to add it again, you need to have the start option on in order to read the loco ) it does not stop even if the speed is 0%.

Basically I cannot read the loco , any thoughts?


Had that happen too. Decoder remembers last speed setting before deleting loc. Reregister loc on cs3 to set speed to 0.
Digital M track layout with vintage rolling stock and accessories controlled by CS3+Rocrail; small Z scale layout.
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Offline rhfil  
#9 Posted : 12 March 2025 13:39:52(UTC)
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What is missing in the instructions is to enter the loco without it being on the track, move the speed from zero to something just above zero and then place the loco on the track press start. Then set it at zero.
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Offline rhfil  
#10 Posted : 13 March 2025 13:39:59(UTC)
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Have you resolved the problem? If not I may have another solution.
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Offline Adrian666  
#11 Posted : 13 March 2025 14:14:23(UTC)
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hi rhfil , thank you for your concern, yes- I sorted out. I made a circle and had time to map the loco in the cs3+. before I was using 3-4 pieces of tracks and was too short.
thank you!!
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Offline rhfil  
#12 Posted : 13 March 2025 14:48:24(UTC)
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Good. I remembered that there might also be a way to avoid the problem. If you are in the habit of using "save" when you shut down not doing that might solve the problem. Secondly is under "System" in the "Track: Protocols" there is an option to "Start locomotives automatically on startup". I think unclicking that might also prevent it. It is hard to duplicate the problem deliberately to check either out.
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Offline Adrian666  
#13 Posted : 14 March 2025 03:02:36(UTC)
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Thanks guys for all, this can be closed
Really appreciated Your efort ans advice
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