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Bigdaddynz		#1 Posted : 05 March 2025 04:47:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		I don't know how many of you are collecting the Märklin 4590x series of Catalog Wagons, but the bulk of mine (4 out of 5 issued) arrived today from Lokshop (thanks Roland). These are a nice design with the cover for that years catalog appearing on the wagon. I noticed the item numbers are 45900 through to 45904, with 45905 as being the yet to be issued 1935 catalog wagon. However, the years represented are 1929 (45900) through to 1933 (45904), which begs the question Why is there no 1934 wagon? There were no Märklin catalogs produced from 1941 to 1946 because of WWII, but there was a catalog for 1934. Anyone know the reason?
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Kiko		#2 Posted : 05 March 2025 05:59:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Ottawa, ON		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz There were no Märklin catalogs produced from 1941 to 1946 because of WWII, but there was a catalog for 1934. Hello, I've also collected the first few models and have reserved the next one. They are very nice designs. Are you sure there was a catalog for 1934? Although I have a picture of a 1934 catalog cover (see below), I could not locate an actual catalog. Since there's no date on the catalog cover, maybe there was a plan to release a catalog but it never materialized and the year was skipped. Just speculation on my part. Maybe someone can resolve this mystery... Cheers, Andry 1934 Catalog Cover
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kimballthurlow		#3 Posted : 05 March 2025 06:03:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,762 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hello David, I believe it possible that 45905 will be for 1934. That appears to be possible following the number series. Many catalogue wagons were produced around late 1990s, sometimes with issue numbers as low as 3,000. I have a 1929 version 4680.900 produced in 1997. 4680.901 for 1932 is currently advertised at eBay sale The 1934 catalogue seems to be well known from the number of images available. Kimball
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Bigdaddynz		#4 Posted : 05 March 2025 06:26:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Hi Kimball, 45905 is definitely reserved for the 1935 catalog wagon - see the attached screenshot of the Marklin product database entry for 45905. I've also attached a copy of the 1934 Marklin catalog for those who haven't seen it. Marklin 1934_Catalog_DE-1.pdf (13,928kb) downloaded 38 time(s). Marklin 1934_Catalog_DE-2.pdf (14,656kb) downloaded 32 time(s).
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kimballthurlow		#5 Posted : 05 March 2025 07:06:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,762 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Thank you David for pointing that out. What a beautiful catalogue produced in 1934. Kimball
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Bigdaddynz		#6 Posted : 05 March 2025 08:05:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		I had to split the catalog in two so that I could upload it.
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mbarreto		#7 Posted : 05 March 2025 11:01:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,334		I bought the first 3 and they are good. I will by some more but not sure about until when. I started buy them for being pulled by the CCS 700, so, maybe more 3... Miguel
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Kiko		#8 Posted : 05 March 2025 15:58:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Ottawa, ON		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow The 1934 catalogue seems to be well known from the number of images available. Hello Kimball, I'm not sure where you've seen a 1934 catalogue. It would be great if you could provide links or references to theses. So far, I've been unable to find one. The only reference to something from 1934 is a picture (see my post above) of a "phantom" catalogue, but no real catalogue. Cheers, Andry
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 05 March 2025 19:24:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		Ummm....look in post #4 in this thread. I uploaded the 1934 catalog there in two files as I had to split it into two so as to be able to stay under the file size limit for the forum.
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Kiko		#10 Posted : 05 March 2025 19:56:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Ottawa, ON		I noticed the links at the end. I guess that must be the 1934 -- judging by the front picture, which is the same as the one in my initial post. But how come there are no dates (that I can see) on all these early catalogs? Are they hidden somewhere, or was it just not important at the time? Funny thing one can learn from these forums... Cheers, Andry
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Bigdaddynz		#11 Posted : 06 March 2025 05:10:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,764 Location: New Zealand		No idea why Marklin didn't put dates on the early catalogs, although 1936 does. You could always purchase the reprint of 1934 and see if that has dates:- https://www.maerklinshop...int-catalog-from-1934/35
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Kiko		#12 Posted : 06 March 2025 05:44:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2017(UTC) Posts: 159 Location: Ottawa, ON		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz You could always purchase the reprint of 1934 and see if that has dates I would think that if it's a reprint, then it would be the same as the original, otherwise, it would be a "revised" version. But no matter -- since we have the original version in scanned format, I just thought that maybe somewhere there's a "copyright" notice or other marking that would indicate the year. I couldn't find it. Historical document analysis is a hobby in itself... Cheers, Andry
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