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Goofy		#1 Posted : 15 November 2024 17:13:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Has anyone got Märklins turnout/switch decoder m83 and m84 broken output(s)? How long did you used before one m83 or m84 was broken before you was force to buy a new?
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ChrisKenna		#2 Posted : 19 November 2024 10:04:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/10/2024(UTC) Posts: 28 Location: NSW Australia		Originally Posted by: Goofy Has anyone got Märklins turnout/switch decoder m83 and m84 broken output(s)? How long did you used before one m83 or m84 was broken before you was force to buy a new? Apologies in advance if this has been explained before, but presumably these decoders are paired with digital and not analogue points/switches? Thanks, Chris
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ChrisKenna		#3 Posted : 19 November 2024 10:09:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/10/2024(UTC) Posts: 28 Location: NSW Australia		Originally Posted by: Goofy Has anyone got Märklins turnout/switch decoder m83 and m84 broken output(s)? How long did you used before one m83 or m84 was broken before you was force to buy a new? Apologies if answered before, but are these decoders also paired with special/different digital points/switches? With thanks, Chris
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JohnjeanB		#4 Posted : 19 November 2024 10:57:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,551 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: Goofy Has anyone got Märklins turnout/switch decoder m83 and m84 broken output(s)? How long did you used before one m83 or m84 was broken before you was force to buy a new? Hi Goofy the m83 (60831 or 60832) never failed on my layout as opposed to K83 on which the output transitor was burned. The difference is that the m83 has an internal timeout to switch off the current. On the older K83, in absence of an protection switch, if it fails to detect the switch-off order from the CS, it remains on, brune the solenoid which in tern burns the transistor Cheers Jean
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Copenhagen		#5 Posted : 19 November 2024 13:23:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 493 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		Originally Posted by: ChrisKenna Apologies in advance if this has been explained before, but presumably these decoders are paired with digital and not analogue points/switches? Thanks, Chris They are for digital use but they work on the traditional, solenoid switch motors and other analogue stuff. (Maybe not all analogue stuff. I only use m83 on switch motors). Copied this from another source: "The Märklin m83 decoder is first and foremost a solenoid accessory decoder. A solenoid accessory can be a turnout motor or an uncouple track. The m83 can also control lighting on your layout."

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Copenhagen		#6 Posted : 19 November 2024 13:38:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 493 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		To JohnjeanB: I think Goofy made this topic after seing a topic in a Danish forum where a user is having problems with an m84. Out the nine units one has gone bad. A while after power on it doesn't respond anymore. A power off and on makes it work again but only for a short while... and so on. The Marklin expert on the forum adviced him to return it to the dealer, if it was still under warranty, or else dump it and get a new one.

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ChrisKenna		#7 Posted : 20 November 2024 00:13:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/10/2024(UTC) Posts: 28 Location: NSW Australia		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Originally Posted by: ChrisKenna Apologies in advance if this has been explained before, but presumably these decoders are paired with digital and not analogue points/switches? Thanks, Chris They are for digital use but they work on the traditional, solenoid switch motors and other analogue stuff. (Maybe not all analogue stuff. I only use m83 on switch motors). Copied this from another source: "The Märklin m83 decoder is first and foremost a solenoid accessory decoder. A solenoid accessory can be a turnout motor or an uncouple track. The m83 can also control lighting on your layout." Very helpful, Copenhagen, many thanks. I probably should learn crawling again before trying to walk (clumsy metaphor, sorry). Regards, Chris
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Copenhagen		#8 Posted : 20 November 2024 00:30:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 493 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		You're doing fine Chris. Most of what I know has been learned from others... and from some of the mistakes I have made.

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ChrisKenna		#9 Posted : 20 November 2024 01:24:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/10/2024(UTC) Posts: 28 Location: NSW Australia		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen You're doing fine Chris. Most of what I know has been learned from others... and from some of the mistakes I have made. Many thanks for your kind comment. In some ways I'm 'catching up' (without much electronics expertise), but probably knew more about my analogue Marklin train set as a teenager than I do now! I very much appreciate the knowledge shared by you and others, thanks again.
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