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Offline kiwiAlan  
#1 Posted : 30 October 2024 14:00:27(UTC)
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Offline foumaro  
#2 Posted : 30 October 2024 14:19:05(UTC)
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Amazing locomotive.ThumpUp
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Offline torhb  
#3 Posted : 31 October 2024 13:52:42(UTC)
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Amazing locomotive.ThumpUp


Even more amazing price, if you ask me!!
Tor Harald Bøhler
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Offline marklinist5999  
#4 Posted : 31 October 2024 15:32:38(UTC)
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Yes, amzingly expensive, on top of the club cost. Not for me. I'm on retirement.
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Offline Marklineisenbahn  
#5 Posted : 31 October 2024 15:56:56(UTC)
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Hallo Dreileiters,
Whoa 😮, DRG E95 in “Silesian” outfit- but if my memory serves me correctly Brawa already tried this model a few years ago without much success !
Besides it , That is an eye-bleeding amount of money… especially in today’s economy and global stagnation ( maybe should say depression)
Well , If you add matching coal hoppers it is bloody expensive and I doubt Märklin will have much sales with this model! Plus as someone mentioned already on the top of ridiculous club membership fee they want from you!
In my opinion it is cooperation with Brawa ( Märklin already used Brawa paterns /molds with Kof in the past )
Good Luck guys but I would pass on this one…
My Bests,
Marklineisenbahn
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#6 Posted : 31 October 2024 15:58:56(UTC)
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Ignoring the prices, those coal cars are FANTASTIC!
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#7 Posted : 31 October 2024 16:04:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post

In my opinion it is cooperation with Brawa ( Märklin already used Brawa paterns /molds with Kof in the past )


They did a cooperation with Brawa for the 3680 Kof, but the later Kofs are Marklins own engineering. I understand there was a falling out with Brawa over the 3680, but don't know the details. I doubt the E95 is a cooperation with any other manufacturer.

I also couldn't find any text that suggests the Trix set of hoppers have different road numbers to the Marklin set. That would be really nice for those who have the room to run a 20 hopper train (along with the cash for it, we in the UK are a bit strapped now after Rachel Reeves budget yesterday).

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Offline RayF  
#8 Posted : 31 October 2024 16:26:06(UTC)
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Nice model of the E95! I'll wait a couple of years and pick one up cheaper on ebay!
Ray
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Online bph  
#9 Posted : 31 October 2024 16:31:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post

In my opinion it is cooperation with Brawa ( Märklin already used Brawa paterns /molds with Kof in the past )


They did a cooperation with Brawa for the 3680 Kof, but the later Kofs are Marklins own engineering. I understand there was a falling out with Brawa over the 3680, but don't know the details. I doubt the E95 is a cooperation with any other manufacturer.

I also couldn't find any text that suggests the Trix set of hoppers have different road numbers to the Marklin set. That would be really nice for those who have the room to run a 20 hopper train (along with the cash for it, we in the UK are a bit strapped now after Rachel Reeves budget yesterday).



In the video, Märklin states that it is a completely new construction and that the Trix set of hoppers has different road numbers

The locomotive and hoppers are very tempting but expensive....




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Offline kiwiAlan  
#10 Posted : 31 October 2024 16:48:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post

In my opinion it is cooperation with Brawa ( Märklin already used Brawa paterns /molds with Kof in the past )


They did a cooperation with Brawa for the 3680 Kof, but the later Kofs are Marklins own engineering. I understand there was a falling out with Brawa over the 3680, but don't know the details. I doubt the E95 is a cooperation with any other manufacturer.

I also couldn't find any text that suggests the Trix set of hoppers have different road numbers to the Marklin set. That would be really nice for those who have the room to run a 20 hopper train (along with the cash for it, we in the UK are a bit strapped now after Rachel Reeves budget yesterday).



In the video, Märklin states that it is a completely new construction and that the Trix set of hoppers has different road numbers

The locomotive and hoppers are very tempting but expensive....


Ah, thanks for the video link. I hadn't picked up on that.

Yeah, in round numbers it is 700 (loco) + 450 (Marklin hoppers) + 450 (Trix hoppers) + 50 (Pwg) = 1650 Euros. Crying

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Offline mbarreto  
#11 Posted : 31 October 2024 17:34:57(UTC)
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There is no need to buy them all. One can just go for the loco or just for 1 set of wagons.
They all look great thought. I don't know if I go to any. Will see.
About the club membership fee, they are exagerating... (in my opinion, of course).
Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline foumaro  
#12 Posted : 31 October 2024 19:31:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Amazing locomotive.ThumpUp


Even more amazing price, if you ask me!!


You are absolutely right,my heart says yes,my wallet says no.LOL
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Offline David Dewar  
#13 Posted : 31 October 2024 20:56:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Nice model of the E95! I'll wait a couple of years and pick one up cheaper on ebay!


I can get one from my dealer even as not an insider member cheaper and with no subscription. Have to say though I have given them a lot of business over the the years and have no idea where they get the models.
Looks a nice loco but not at that price.
The wagons I like and may try to get.
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Offline applor  
#14 Posted : 31 October 2024 23:36:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Nice model of the E95! I'll wait a couple of years and pick one up cheaper on ebay!


I can get one from my dealer even as not an insider member cheaper and with no subscription. Have to say though I have given them a lot of business over the the years and have no idea where they get the models.
Looks a nice loco but not at that price.
The wagons I like and may try to get.



I believe they order them for their customers that are insiders, regardless of whether they want them. If the member does not want the insider, they just sell on the open market.
Every dealer should always give a 10% discount on RRP.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#15 Posted : 01 November 2024 00:02:09(UTC)
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There is no need to buy them all.


Yeah, but if you are going to have a train, it may as well be a long one ... BigGrin Blink Crying

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#16 Posted : 01 November 2024 20:06:51(UTC)
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I love the loco and my husband does too. I've already pre-ordered all the American models for next year but I should be able to squeeze in this loco and maybe the coal cars in the budget. It's much money.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#17 Posted : 01 November 2024 23:04:06(UTC)
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I really like the Insider 2025 offering, it is a very iconic set with the locomotive, cars and Pwg caboose.
I don't know whether I can afford all of them.
The locomotive would be a nice fit with my collection of historic electrics models (most of the German E series, and a couple of Swiss versions).

It is nice to see Märklin finally releasing the Pwg with the originally fitted full-length running board (step board) which lasted on many examples into the early 1950s.
So I expect over the next few years we will see it modelled in the original Prussian brown, and maybe in later DRG and early era IIIa colours and lettering.

Maybe I can afford the Pwg, and leave the loco in my imagination.
Kimball

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Offline mrmarklin  
#18 Posted : 01 November 2024 23:24:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post

In my opinion it is cooperation with Brawa ( Märklin already used Brawa paterns /molds with Kof in the past )


They did a cooperation with Brawa for the 3680 Kof, but the later Kofs are Marklins own engineering. I understand there was a falling out with Brawa over the 3680, but don't know the details. I doubt the E95 is a cooperation with any other manufacturer.

I also couldn't find any text that suggests the Trix set of hoppers have different road numbers to the Marklin set. That would be really nice for those who have the room to run a 20 hopper train (along with the cash for it, we in the UK are a bit strapped now after Rachel Reeves budget yesterday).



In the video, Märklin states that it is a completely new construction and that the Trix set of hoppers has different road numbers

The locomotive and hoppers are very tempting but expensive....


Ah, thanks for the video link. I hadn't picked up on that.

Yeah, in round numbers it is 700 (loco) + 450 (Marklin hoppers) + 450 (Trix hoppers) + 50 (Pwg) = 1650 Euros. Crying



It is not a cheap date, but considering the paucity of ERA 2 rolling stock and Loks, it’s a must have for me. Cool
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Offline Goofy  
#19 Posted : 02 November 2024 14:30:37(UTC)
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The new E95 will also have power cap install.
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Offline Marklineisenbahn  
#20 Posted : 02 November 2024 17:48:58(UTC)
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Hi Dreileiters,
Kimball wrote, Quote “… Maybe I can afford the Pwg, and leave the loco in my imagination…. End of Quote !
I agree with him , also if Märklin released Pwg14 with long boards why they did not include Schlusslicht and sound decoder! That would be nice bonus for Club Members and cherry on the cake for high priced set !
They frankly don’t care just want profit so they pushing new models with astronomical prices every 6 months under Surprise Loco banner or MHI or something else. I can’t justify to drop them 1600 Euros for set even if X-Mass is around the corner!
Cheers,
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#21 Posted : 02 November 2024 23:59:52(UTC)
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The new E95 will also have power cap install.


I notice that the Z gauge insider railcar also has a power cap installed. Not quite sure how they are doing that on a DC loco, sounds like there must be a dose of electronics in it to achieve that.

Offline kiwiAlan  
#22 Posted : 03 November 2024 00:04:29(UTC)
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..., also if Märklin released Pwg14 with long boards why they did not include Schlusslicht and sound decoder! That would be nice bonus for Club Members and cherry on the cake for high priced set !


They already released a Pwg with sounds in the MHI program about 4 years ago IIRC. See 46986 for details.

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Offline Marklineisenbahn  
#23 Posted : 03 November 2024 00:31:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post
..., also if Märklin released Pwg14 with long boards why they did not include Schlusslicht and sound decoder! That would be nice bonus for Club Members and cherry on the cake for high priced set !


They already released a Pwg with sounds in the MHI program about 4 years ago IIRC. See 46986 for details.



Hallo Allan
Yes. I know have two of them but those are DB version. And 46986 would require repainting and re-decaling the model with DRG appropriate decals!
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#24 Posted : 03 November 2024 00:38:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post
..., also if Märklin released Pwg14 with long boards why they did not include Schlusslicht and sound decoder! That would be nice bonus for Club Members and cherry on the cake for high priced set !


They already released a Pwg with sounds in the MHI program about 4 years ago IIRC. See 46986 for details.



Hallo Allan
Yes. I know have two of them but those are DB version. And 46986 would require repainting and re-decaling the model with DRG appropriate decals!
Regards,
Marklineisenbahn


OK, but the 46986 cost just over twice what they are charging for the new pwg (Euro 99.99 vs 42.99) so around the cost of a decoder. You could always take the 46986 project, program it into an msd/3 and fit it to the new one.

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#25 Posted : 03 November 2024 05:27:26(UTC)
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I am a huge fan of the E95 and purchased the Brawa version but it runs like a pig and has been a huge disappointment.

So my order is in and I hope M do a better job than Brawa ThumpUp ThumpUp
Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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Offline Goofy  
#26 Posted : 03 November 2024 07:24:45(UTC)
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I am a huge fan of the E95 and purchased the Brawa version but it runs like a pig and has been a huge disappointment.

So my order is in and I hope M do a better job than Brawa ThumpUp ThumpUp


They will!
A tip...you can also use passenger cars era 2 with the E95 and simulate train set like museum travel.

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#27 Posted : 03 November 2024 07:25:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post
... Märklin released Pwg14 with long boards why they did not include Schlusslicht and sound decoder! That would be nice bonus for Club Members and cherry on the cake for high priced set !
..
Cheers,
Marklineisenbahn


I think Märklin have slowly released new features for the Pwg since 2020, all of which I have taken advantage.
This latest 46987 Pwg #95 608 Breslau is just one more "step" in the upgrading.

Along with the 46986 mentioned earlier by Alan, the 48829 freight set with updated Pwg was released also in 2020
The 48829 4 car set represented the late 1920s period and the Pwg #95 768 Nurnberg in DRG colouring and lettering had LED marker lights and interior.
See this review here 48829

The 46987 with full length step boards and hand rails is the first time since Trix Express did it in the 1950s/60s. (Fleischmann also).
The stove chimney also has a slightly different shape.
I would be surprized if the doors on this model slide open, because of the full length handrailings (but I may be wrong).
I will not let that deter me from a purchase, I have plenty of Pwg with sliding doors.

For a general overview of most of the Märklin Pwg releases from 4699 and 4889 see General Pwg overview
By way of interest Piko do a rather nice era II Pwg in their item 57704 (very basic Hobby line, no glazing etc), which can have different running numbers.
regards
Kimball
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Offline dickinsonj  
#28 Posted : 11 February 2025 21:20:08(UTC)
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Reviving this thread because the 2025 HO Insider E95 has finally gotten my attention, and I love it. I have always fallen for twin motor locos, and this one seem well designed for smooth running and as a bonus it even has a cap. The dump cars are nicely detailed and even one set would make an impressive unit train.

It isn't cheap of course, but what Insider models have ever been? Opinions seem to be split over the cost, but I agree with mrmarklin about the scarcity of ERA II rolling stock and that makes it even more desirable for me.

I can get the loco, dump cars and baggage car for $1,095 USD, or about 1,057 Euros, which is not all that bad from my POV. I think it has the right architecture to be an extremely strong loco and I like the look, detailing and the unique design of the prototype.

I'm wondering how many people have committed to this model, or if people are still put off by the price, because it has not generated much discussion in a while.

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#29 Posted : 11 February 2025 23:00:58(UTC)
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Reviving this thread because the 2025 HO Insider E95 has finally gotten my attention, and I love it. I have always fallen for twin motor locos,....



Hello Jim,

I agree this is a great locomotive and very desirable from many points of view.
It would go well with my E91(s)!!
I probably can afford it, but the reality is I just don't have room to store any more model trains.
And my wife continually reminds me me that I have enough to play with, which is true .... up to a point.
I don't have to be perfect ..Flapper

Kimball
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Offline dickinsonj  
#30 Posted : 12 February 2025 01:02:53(UTC)
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Hello Kimball,

I am in the same situation - too little room and too many trains. It is so obvious that my wife doesn't even bother to tell me. BigGrin

I guess it shows that I am not 100% rational because I still want that E95 and wagons, and luckily I don't even want to be perfect.

But I still have a few weeks to see if I can avoid this temptation, and I always order my Insider models very late, so we will see.

Jim
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline hxmiesa  
#31 Posted : 12 February 2025 09:14:14(UTC)
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I would like a model, as I love old "stangeneloks". Unfortunatly this is in DRG livery, so that is already a no-go.
Even if it later comes out in era III livery, I will still have to wait some time for it to come down in price on f.x. Ebay.

Even if the coal wagons are nice, I already have a 25 wagons Langer Heinrich, and another coal-train with open 2-axleded wagons, so not in the market for more coal trains...
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Offline mbarreto  
#32 Posted : 12 February 2025 10:23:34(UTC)
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Hello,
I ordered the E95 and I hope the grey is not too dark. It has a lot of detail and digitally controlable features. I also am out of space and in 2024 I sold locomotive some that were not my stars, although I bought more than I sold :-).
I didn’t order the coal wagons and probably won’t. The E95 Will probably pull my other Ep. 2 rolling stock that perfectly matches what I see in photos of the real E95.
I ordered Roco Ep. 1 Württemberg coaches and probably will buy in ebay some wagons for the bigboy 37993 as I have no USA wagons.
So, you see I am not perfect either, but if I was, probably I was boring even to myself BigGrin .

Miguel
Best regards,
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Offline marklinist5999  
#33 Posted : 12 February 2025 14:59:09(UTC)
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Color research is done before a new model is in production.
Offline mbarreto  
#34 Posted : 12 February 2025 17:47:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Color research is done before a new model is in production.



Yes. About this model I don't think that it exists in real world currently in the DRG grey. The DRG grey seems to be well known as there are several Märklin and other brands locomotives that use it.
In the models the same grey was not always used and that is why I have some doubts. I have a grey E94 and I like its color.
Other models, like E91 3628 and 37196 have different greys, and I think the latter is more close to what was standard at the time and probably that is what the E95 will be.
We have to wait and see...

Miguel

Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline dickinsonj  
#35 Posted : 12 February 2025 18:09:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

Yes. About this model I don't think that it exists in real world currently in the DRG grey. The DRG grey seems to be well known as there are several Märklin and other brands locomotives that use it.
In the models the same grey was not always used and that is why I have some doubts. I have a grey E94 and I like its color.
Other models, like E91 3628 and 37196 have different greys, and I think the latter is more close to what was standard at the time and probably that is what the E95 will be.
We have to wait and see...

Miguel

Which of those other grey locos do you think match the hand samples they have shown Miguel?

The model may be a hand sample but I bet the color is what will be on the production E95s. It looks good to me, but this would be my first DRG grey loco and your insights are useful and interesting. In the promotional images on Marklin's website it looks fairly light in color, which is what it sounds like you are hoping for.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline mbarreto  
#36 Posted : 12 February 2025 22:15:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post

Which of those other grey locos do you think match the hand samples they have shown Miguel?

The model may be a hand sample but I bet the color is what will be on the production E95s. It looks good to me, but this would be my first DRG grey loco and your insights are useful and interesting. In the promotional images on Marklin's website it looks fairly light in color, which is what it sounds like you are hoping for.


I agree they probably have the final color in the hand sample, the doubt is during the editing of the video, they may have changed it a bit to look even better.
Also the displays we use introduce some color distortion.
I like the locomotive E95 enough for want it, so it is ordered!

Miguel


Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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#37 Posted : 12 February 2025 22:47:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

I agree they probably have the final color in the hand sample, the doubt is during the editing of the video, they may have changed it a bit to look even better.
Also the displays we use introduce some color distortion.
I like the locomotive E95 enough for want it, so it is ordered!

Miguel


Yes, that is true. It is always hard to determine the exact color in a video. I am encouraged that the color looks consistent between the video and the images posted on Marklin's website, but I guess we will not really know until we actually see one. I have a calibrated display for video/photo editing and the color looks really good on it.

I share Miguel's fascination with old "stangeneloks" and just like you I will order one and see the color for the first time when I open the box!

Thanks for your feedback! ThumpUp
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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#38 Posted : 13 February 2025 01:08:43(UTC)
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I thought they can transfer a photo from a book into a computer and decipher a correct color and thus have it custom mixed.
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#39 Posted : 13 February 2025 10:13:26(UTC)
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Once, in a video, I saw Märklin people scanning with a special device the colors of a locomotive.
Probably the colors German railways used over time have most probably well know RAL code identifies, although I don't know them.
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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#40 Posted : 14 February 2025 06:42:57(UTC)
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In all history books about old time locomotives there is standing about RAL color scheme.
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#41 Posted : 14 February 2025 13:40:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
In all history books about old time locomotives there is standing about RAL color scheme.


I didn't know the colors were that well documented. The RAL colors would be a lot more accurate than trying to determine colors from photographs. Color photographs of early locomotives are often rare and badly faded.
Regards,
Jim

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So many trains and so little time.
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#42 Posted : 04 March 2025 03:23:01(UTC)
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I see that Marklin has extended the order period for the 2025 H0 club models until 31 March 2025.

I wonder if this is due to a lack of interest or because of the cost?
Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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#43 Posted : 04 March 2025 14:16:10(UTC)
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Lack of interest due to cost I'd wager. I like the model and would like to have it, but can't justify the expense.
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#44 Posted : 04 March 2025 22:57:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post
I see that Marklin has extended the order period for the 2025 H0 club models until 31 March 2025.

I wonder if this is due to a lack of interest or because of the cost?


They seem to manage to do this every year.

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#45 Posted : 05 April 2025 06:53:41(UTC)
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Interesting review by Lippe of a prototype sample of the E95

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#46 Posted : 05 April 2025 22:47:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
I ordered the E95 and I hope the grey is not too dark.
Miguel


I am wondering what you think of the color of the E95 hand sample in the MSL video Miguel?

It looks quite dark to me, perhaps the dark grey that you were not liking? It looks a good bit darker in the video than it does in the photos from the Märklin website.

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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#47 Posted : 06 April 2025 16:41:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
I ordered the E95 and I hope the grey is not too dark.
Miguel


I am wondering what you think of the color of the E95 hand sample in the MSL video Miguel?

It looks quite dark to me, perhaps the dark grey that you were not liking? It looks a good bit darker in the video than it does in the photos from the Märklin website.



It´s a prototype model and the color of the model will be lighter grey as the real prototype shows too.

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