hello to all.
I bought a new decoder esu lokpilot 5 - item 59610.
I have a Cs3 in my layout with last firmware uploaded.

I try to put my loco in programming track to add a new locomotive with this ESU 59610.
I add a new loco DCC, close the mask. Then I edited my last loco added and try to set a new address to locomotive for cv1 (after use read loco).
I can't change loco address and the locomotive doesn't move.
It seems that the new decoder is not recognized and does not work and it is not possible to change addresses or anything else.. on the control unit CS3, no error appears.
where am I wrong? can someone help me? thanks

locomotive is a native ROCO AC item 69890.

thank you very much for you reply.
How I can check this by CS3... my decoder is new, first use off the box. I just plugged in the locomotive.

I bought the 59610 ESU, thinking it was MFX, so as to have the best on Marklin for the CS3. But I see that the new MFX locomotives are not always immediately detected by the central.. sometimes yes and sometimes no. Normally, after how long does the new locomotive come out on the track if MFX?

hi i have other esu decoders, both mfx and older without mfx but for AC. Simple, you create a new loco with the "+" button and choose DCC. You put it on the programming track, close the card and reopen it and read the decoder and it tells you what address the loco has in CV1 that you can change from the cs3 screen.

Ciao Andrea,


To help you with this we need answers to some questions.


1. If you check your loco-list. Is there a MFX-loco called something where the name contains ESU or maybe a DCC-loco with the name DCC-3 that has been identified?
2. If you enter the "add loco" menu int the CS3, put the loco with the ESU decoder on the programming-track with the CS3 in "STOP"-mode. Then deactivate "STOP".
Does the CS3 start to add the loco within 10 seconds? With this I mean that the MFX symbol should start flashing.

There can sometimes be problems with Märklin control-units like the CS3 and MS3 and multiprotocol decoders like the 59610. The control-units favor the MFX protocol and if you want to run something else you have to deactivate MFX with bit-CVs or the Lokprogrammer.

Ti scrivo anche in italiano... È più facile. ;)

Per aiutarti con questo, abbiamo bisogno di risposte a alcune domande.

1. Se controlli la tua lista delle locomotive, c'è una loco MFX chiamata qualcosa il cui nome contiene ESU o forse una loco DCC con il nome DCC-3 che è stata identificata?
2. Se entri nel menu "aggiungi loco" nel CS3, metti la loco con il decoder ESU sul binario di programmazione con il CS3 in modalità "STOP". Poi disattiva "STOP".
Il CS3 inizia ad aggiungere la loco entro 10 secondi? Con questo intendo che il simbolo MFX dovrebbe iniziare a lampeggiare.

A volte ci possono essere problemi con le unità di controllo Märklin come il CS3 e MS3 e i decoder multiprotocollo come il 59610. Le unità di controllo favoriscono il protocollo MFX e se vuoi utilizzare qualcos'altro devi disattivare MFX con bit-CV o il Lokprogrammer.

Sounds very strange. But in the world of digital decoders, nothing surprises me anymore. They are quite delicate pieces of electronics that can behave in the most curious of ways.

There is a menu for decoder configuration in the CS3. One thing you have to consider is that the loco has to be added to the locomotive list in the CS3 in order to be modified. If it´s DCC you have to know the adress it already has or read the loco with the "read" function in the CS3. Also, check that your loco has not registered as an MFX loco on it´s own and sits in the locomotive list already.

It´s also important that the loco is connected to the programming track and not the main track.

Check the video below on how to edit the various formats with the CS3.

Hi
The ESU 59610 is an M4 capable decoder
So it will be recognized automatically on CS3
Is very complicated to change the address on an mfx decoder

Costas

I understand that you are puzzled. This is very strange. I am very familiar with ESU and their ecosystem and this is the first time I´ve heard of someone not being able to change the address.
Do you have access to a Lokprogrammer? If you don´t have one yourself then maybe a friend or a nearby shop has one? It will most certainly help you program the decoder.
If you use ESU decoders often it´s a worthwhile investment to make. I use mine all the time.

Have you updated your CS3 recently? I know of some people that are running software version 2.5.1 that have had problems with ESU and Zimo decoders.
The software version 2.5.2 was released to remedy this.

I see that you are in Milano. If you are willing to make the trip, you could try and take your locomotive to the lovely people at Artuffo Modellismo in Torino.
They are Märklin specialists and probably have both the knowledge and equipment to help you.

https://artuffo.com/

Ok, good luck. Keep us posted on how everything goes.

And BTW, I saw that Artuffo has a super-sale on Märklin. And seem to be open even though August is a holiday-month. So maybe it’s worth the trip anyways?Hehe!

I do use ESU function decoder and these support also M4. I did install decoder to control the lightings in the wagons. No problem by registred decoder and after that i did configurated decoder too.

My mistake… i mean Lokpilot 5! It was 8 pol. Schnittstelle.
Soon later i did changed to lokpilot 5 Fx with only DCC to use and it works better in this way.