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danmarklinman		#1 Posted : 19 November 2023 16:38:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,379		Just gauging interest, is there interest do you think in Marklin K track flexible lengths with concrete sleepers!!! Surely an easy tooling change. They do concrete track lengths in Z gauge!!! Dan
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PMPeter		#2 Posted : 19 November 2023 17:54:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 1,275 Location: Port Moody, BC		Personally I think it would be a great addition to the K track line. However, I get the feeling that with the introduction of C track very little, if any, effort has been made to expand or re-tool the K track items. There still is the very problematic 3 way turnout that has the built in solenoids and a very touchy moveable section that does not do well for those of us running magnets for reed switches. Peter
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JohnjeanB		#3 Posted : 19 November 2023 19:08:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,130 Location: Paris, France		Hi I suspect Märklin won't do much with K Track. Why? because it would need a complete redesign of the K-Track items (the present design is over 50 years so it shows). This would be a huge cost for Märklin, not so much for track pieces but for points, triple points, DSSs and crossings not to forget the point motors. Right now C-Track outsells K-Track clearly, although Märklin is silent about it. Just my opinion Jean
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danmarklinman		#4 Posted : 19 November 2023 21:02:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,379		Originally Posted by: PMPeter Personally I think it would be a great addition to the K track line. However, I get the feeling that with the introduction of C track very little, if any, effort has been made to expand or re-tool the K track items. There still is the very problematic 3 way turnout that has the built in solenoids and a very touchy moveable section that does not do well for those of us running magnets for reed switches. Peter Indeed, I have one of those three ways. I’m reluctant to use it because of the built in motors. Every one does seem to use C track these days. If I get the space in the future, my layout expansion might well be C track if there’s concrete sleepers available. Until then I’ll plan with k track as I like ballasting my own track. Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs? See here for my ballasted track- ?si=bq_nEkc52i17wrqf
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mbarreto		#5 Posted : 19 November 2023 23:58:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Originally Posted by: danmarklinman ... Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs? ... Your track looks very good! Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes. If you look in the video below at minute 8, you can see concrete sleepers using track + separate studs. I remember long ago to see a video in teh same youtube channel where it was shown the construction of that portion of the track. From what I remember it was not Peco track, but Tillig. I couldn't find that video now. Miguel
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kiwiAlan		#6 Posted : 20 November 2023 00:50:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: mbarreto Originally Posted by: danmarklinman ... Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs? ... Your track looks very good! Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes. I wouldn't use the Peco "studs", they look horrible. They are formed from a flat strip that 'wriggles' up and down between the sleepers. A much better way to do it would be to use Weichan-Walter studs. They supply them to use with Peco code 100 or Peco code 75. I don't know about the Peco concrete sleeper track, which I have a feeling is higher than code 75, but if it is code 75 then all should be good.
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hxmiesa		#7 Posted : 20 November 2023 10:23:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,520 Location: Spain		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan They supply them to use with Peco code 100 or Peco code 75. I don't know about the Peco concrete sleeper track, which I have a feeling is higher than code 75, but if it is code 75 then all should be good. Will Märklin rolling stock from the 80´ies run on Code 75 track and points¿? (I thought Code 90 was be the minimum...)
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danmarklinman		#8 Posted : 20 November 2023 11:43:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,379		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: mbarreto Originally Posted by: danmarklinman ... Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs? ... Your track looks very good! Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes. I wouldn't use the Peco "studs", they look horrible. They are formed from a flat strip that 'wriggles' up and down between the sleepers. A much better way to do it would be to use Weichan-Walter studs. They supply them to use with Peco code 100 or Peco code 75. I don't know about the Peco concrete sleeper track, which I have a feeling is higher than code 75, but if it is code 75 then all should be good. That’s food for thought 🙏it will be a future scheme anyway.
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danmarklinman		#9 Posted : 20 November 2023 11:44:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,379		Originally Posted by: mbarreto Originally Posted by: danmarklinman ... Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs? ... Your track looks very good! Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes. If you look in the video below at minute 8, you can see concrete sleepers using track + separate studs. I remember long ago to see a video in teh same youtube channel where it was shown the construction of that portion of the track. From what I remember it was not Peco track, but Tillig. I couldn't find that video now. Miguel Thanks 🙏
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mbarreto		#10 Posted : 20 November 2023 18:11:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		In this video, you can see better the works on the flex track: Miguel
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kiwiAlan		#11 Posted : 20 November 2023 23:22:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: mbarreto In this video, you can see better the works on the flex track: ... Miguel That looks like he could be using the Weichan-Walter studs. The way they 'disappear' in the ballast is one of the things I like about them.
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mbarreto		#12 Posted : 21 November 2023 11:46:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan That looks like he could be using the Weichan-Walter studs. The way they 'disappear' in the ballast is one of the things I like about them. I posted a comment (a question, indeed!) in the Youtube video page asking what are the Flextrack and center studs used. You can see it there and I appear as @mbarreto64 (as a matter of fact in Youtube I use other ID, but seems something from here was passed). Let's wait for the answer. Edit after reading the next 2 posts in this thread: As the subject is clarifies there is no need to keep the comment/question in the Youtube video page, so I deleted it. Miguel Edited by user 23 November 2023 12:06:48(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Crazy Harry		#13 Posted : 21 November 2023 16:54:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/11/2008(UTC) Posts: 477 Location: Oakville, Ontario		Originally Posted by: mbarreto Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan That looks like he could be using the Weichan-Walter studs. The way they 'disappear' in the ballast is one of the things I like about them. I posted a comment (a question, indeed!) in the Youtube video page asking what are the Flextrack and center studs used. You can see it there and I appear as @mbarreto64 (as a matter of fact in Youtube I use other ID, but seems something from here was passed). Let's wait for the answer. Miguel I watched the video, very nice trackwork. At 1:36 in the video he explains what he uses. The flextrack is from Zeitgeist Modelle and he adjusted the colour of the ties. According to posts on the Stummis forum, Zeitgeist have suspended operation for the time being (their website, zeitgeist-models.eu, is no longer active, closed shop?). He also states the pukos, centre studs, are Weichen-Walter as Alan noted. Cheers, Harold.
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marklinist5999		#14 Posted : 21 November 2023 21:13:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,139 Location: Michigan, Troy		I've been following Micha since 2020. He had all C track before, but a few Clarence issues.So,he replaced it with scratch made bed, sleepers and rails.
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mbarreto		#15 Posted : 22 November 2023 18:36:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Originally Posted by: Crazy Harry I watched the video, very nice trackwork. At 1:36 in the video he explains what he uses. The flextrack is from Zeitgeist Modelle and he adjusted the colour of the ties. According to posts on the Stummis forum, Zeitgeist have suspended operation for the time being (their website, zeitgeist-models.eu, is no longer active, closed shop?). He also states the pukos, centre studs, are Weichen-Walter as Alan noted. Cheers, Harold. Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 I've been following Micha since 2020. He had all C track before, but a few Clarence issues.So,he replaced it with scratch made bed, sleepers and rails. Hello, Thank you for your clarification. I deleted my comment/question in the Youtube video page. Just curious if the Weichen-Walter studs can be used with Peco flextrack. Miguel
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kiwiAlan		#16 Posted : 22 November 2023 20:49:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: mbarreto [ Just curious if the Weichen-Walter studs can be used with Peco flextrack. Miguel Yes, they certainly make them for Peco code 100, and I think they do it for code 80 or 75 (I think the Peco concrete sleep is code 80, but haven't checked).
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Bogenschütze		#17 Posted : 23 November 2023 00:18:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/09/2019(UTC) Posts: 141 Location: England, Chichester		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: mbarreto [ Just curious if the Weichen-Walter studs can be used with Peco flextrack. Miguel Yes, they certainly make them for Peco code 100, and I think they do it for code 80 or 75 (I think the Peco concrete sleep is code 80, but haven't checked). Just checked and according to their website, Peco make 914 mm lengths of concrete sleeper flex track for OO/HO in both Code 100 (cat no SL-102) and Code 75 (cat no SL-102F). Edited by user 23 November 2023 14:48:54(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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