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Offline danmarklinman  
#1 Posted : 19 November 2023 16:38:38(UTC)
danmarklinman

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Just gauging interest, is there interest do you think in Marklin K track flexible lengths with concrete sleepers!!!
Surely an easy tooling change. They do concrete track lengths in Z gauge!!!
Dan
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Offline PMPeter  
#2 Posted : 19 November 2023 17:54:25(UTC)
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Personally I think it would be a great addition to the K track line. However, I get the feeling that with the introduction of C track very little, if any, effort has been made to expand or re-tool the K track items. There still is the very problematic 3 way turnout that has the built in solenoids and a very touchy moveable section that does not do well for those of us running magnets for reed switches.

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Offline JohnjeanB  
#3 Posted : 19 November 2023 19:08:31(UTC)
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Hi
I suspect Märklin won't do much with K Track. Why? because it would need a complete redesign of the K-Track items (the present design is over 50 years so it shows). This would be a huge cost for Märklin, not so much for track pieces but for points, triple points, DSSs and crossings not to forget the point motors.
Right now C-Track outsells K-Track clearly, although Märklin is silent about it.
Just my opinion
Jean
Offline danmarklinman  
#4 Posted : 19 November 2023 21:02:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PMPeter Go to Quoted Post
Personally I think it would be a great addition to the K track line. However, I get the feeling that with the introduction of C track very little, if any, effort has been made to expand or re-tool the K track items. There still is the very problematic 3 way turnout that has the built in solenoids and a very touchy moveable section that does not do well for those of us running magnets for reed switches.

Peter


Indeed, I have one of those three ways. I’m reluctant to use it because of the built in motors.
Every one does seem to use C track these days. If I get the space in the future, my layout expansion might well be C track if there’s concrete sleepers available. Until then I’ll plan with k track as I like ballasting my own track. Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs?
See here for my ballasted track-
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Offline mbarreto  
#5 Posted : 19 November 2023 23:58:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post

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Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs?
...


Your track looks very good!
Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes.
If you look in the video below at minute 8, you can see concrete sleepers using track + separate studs. I remember
long ago to see a video in teh same youtube channel where it was shown the construction of that portion of the track. From what I
remember it was not Peco track, but Tillig. I couldn't find that video now.



Miguel
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Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#6 Posted : 20 November 2023 00:50:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post

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Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs?
...


Your track looks very good!
Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes.


I wouldn't use the Peco "studs", they look horrible. They are formed from a flat strip that 'wriggles' up and down between the sleepers.

A much better way to do it would be to use Weichan-Walter studs. They supply them to use with Peco code 100 or Peco code 75. I don't know about the Peco concrete sleeper track, which I have a feeling is higher than code 75, but if it is code 75 then all should be good.
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Offline hxmiesa  
#7 Posted : 20 November 2023 10:23:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
They supply them to use with Peco code 100 or Peco code 75. I don't know about the Peco concrete sleeper track, which I have a feeling is higher than code 75, but if it is code 75 then all should be good.

Will Märklin rolling stock from the 80´ies run on Code 75 track and points¿?
(I thought Code 90 was be the minimum...)
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Offline danmarklinman  
#8 Posted : 20 November 2023 11:43:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post

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Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs?
...


Your track looks very good!
Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes.


I wouldn't use the Peco "studs", they look horrible. They are formed from a flat strip that 'wriggles' up and down between the sleepers.

A much better way to do it would be to use Weichan-Walter studs. They supply them to use with Peco code 100 or Peco code 75. I don't know about the Peco concrete sleeper track, which I have a feeling is higher than code 75, but if it is code 75 then all should be good.

That’s food for thought 🙏it will be a future scheme anyway.

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Offline danmarklinman  
#9 Posted : 20 November 2023 11:44:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post

...
Peco flexible is worth a thought with there attached able studs?
...


Your track looks very good!
Relative to your question about using the Peco with the separately applied studs, I would say yes.
If you look in the video below at minute 8, you can see concrete sleepers using track + separate studs. I remember
long ago to see a video in teh same youtube channel where it was shown the construction of that portion of the track. From what I
remember it was not Peco track, but Tillig. I couldn't find that video now.



Miguel

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Offline mbarreto  
#10 Posted : 20 November 2023 18:11:03(UTC)
mbarreto

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In this video, you can see better the works on the flex track:



Miguel
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#11 Posted : 20 November 2023 23:22:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
In this video, you can see better the works on the flex track:

...

Miguel


That looks like he could be using the Weichan-Walter studs. The way they 'disappear' in the ballast is one of the things I like about them.
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Offline mbarreto  
#12 Posted : 21 November 2023 11:46:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


That looks like he could be using the Weichan-Walter studs. The way they 'disappear' in the ballast is one of the things I like about them.


I posted a comment (a question, indeed!) in the Youtube video page asking what are the Flextrack and center studs used. You can see it there
and I appear as @mbarreto64 (as a matter of fact in Youtube I use other ID, but seems something from here was passed). Let's wait for the answer.


Edit after reading the next 2 posts in this thread:
As the subject is clarifies there is no need to keep the comment/question in the Youtube video page, so I deleted it.

Miguel

Edited by user 23 November 2023 12:06:48(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Crazy Harry  
#13 Posted : 21 November 2023 16:54:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


That looks like he could be using the Weichan-Walter studs. The way they 'disappear' in the ballast is one of the things I like about them.


I posted a comment (a question, indeed!) in the Youtube video page asking what are the Flextrack and center studs used. You can see it there
and I appear as @mbarreto64 (as a matter of fact in Youtube I use other ID, but seems something from here was passed). Let's wait for the answer.

Miguel




I watched the video, very nice trackwork. At 1:36 in the video he explains what he uses. The flextrack is from Zeitgeist Modelle and he adjusted the colour of the ties. According to posts on the Stummis forum, Zeitgeist have suspended operation for the time being (their website, zeitgeist-models.eu, is no longer active, closed shop?). He also states the pukos, centre studs, are Weichen-Walter as Alan noted.

Cheers,

Harold.

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Offline marklinist5999  
#14 Posted : 21 November 2023 21:13:09(UTC)
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I've been following Micha since 2020. He had all C track before, but a few Clarence issues.So,he replaced it with scratch made bed, sleepers and rails.
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Offline mbarreto  
#15 Posted : 22 November 2023 18:36:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Crazy Harry Go to Quoted Post

I watched the video, very nice trackwork. At 1:36 in the video he explains what he uses. The flextrack is from Zeitgeist Modelle and he adjusted the colour of the ties. According to posts on the Stummis forum, Zeitgeist have suspended operation for the time being (their website, zeitgeist-models.eu, is no longer active, closed shop?). He also states the pukos, centre studs, are Weichen-Walter as Alan noted.

Cheers,

Harold.

Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
I've been following Micha since 2020. He had all C track before, but a few Clarence issues.So,he replaced it with scratch made bed, sleepers and rails.



Hello,
Thank you for your clarification. I deleted my comment/question in the Youtube video page.

Just curious if the Weichen-Walter studs can be used with Peco flextrack.

Miguel
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Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline kiwiAlan  
#16 Posted : 22 November 2023 20:49:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
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Just curious if the Weichen-Walter studs can be used with Peco flextrack.

Miguel


Yes, they certainly make them for Peco code 100, and I think they do it for code 80 or 75 (I think the Peco concrete sleep is code 80, but haven't checked).
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Offline Bogenschütze  
#17 Posted : 23 November 2023 00:18:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
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Just curious if the Weichen-Walter studs can be used with Peco flextrack.

Miguel


Yes, they certainly make them for Peco code 100, and I think they do it for code 80 or 75 (I think the Peco concrete sleep is code 80, but haven't checked).


Just checked and according to their website, Peco make 914 mm lengths of concrete sleeper flex track for OO/HO in both Code 100 (cat no SL-102) and Code 75 (cat no SL-102F).

Edited by user 23 November 2023 14:48:54(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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